Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Post-natal clubs

Join our Postnatal Clubs forum to find parenting advice for newborns.

Sept 08 - Is it day or night?

993 replies

lollyheart · 14/10/2008 20:48

Hope no one minds me starting a new thread?

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
pacita · 21/10/2008 21:26

Thanks Meglet, that's reassuring.

As to milk supply, mine seems to be rubbish in the evenings, which is probably why DS doesn't settle. I eat and drink plenty... I guess I should try to fit in a nap, but how does one manage?

meglet · 21/10/2008 21:32

I gave up on having naps weeks ago. TBH I get by on making sure I just relax on the sofa at lunchtime with something yummy to eat. Even if I'm shattered I can't seem to sleep in the day.

lollipopmothershalloweenghost · 21/10/2008 22:46

I did the most awful thing today, I was driving with Elizabeth in the car seat in the back and I had her in a coat, she started really screaming but I didn't pull over until she was really distressed. When I got her out she was dripping with sweat. I have never ever felt so guilty in all my life, I am a shit shit mum, I can't even dress my darling baby right. I am so worried that i've really hurt her and done lasting damage. People passing me holding a semi naked and howling baby in the middle of a freezing car park with tears streaming down my face must've thought i'd lost it completely, and I think I tend to agree with them!

eandz · 22/10/2008 00:31

lollipop
don't fret! i put little Noah in a snow suit plus a coat (as well as having him in two more layers underneath) and was walking around selfridges thinking "i've fed him, changed him, burped him, I don't know what else could be wrong" until i tried to change his diaper again and he was all red hot underneath. i cried pretty hard and i wear a lot of make up when i go out, so by the end of it i looked like a very sad gothic girl. (black and blue streaks down my face)...

i sobbed in the cab all the way home.

Tonight is another set of disasters, and I'm just holding on by the skin of my teeth.

Noah seems to be hungry, but he won't eat. He's crying soo loud and soooo very hard, trying to suck on his fists. I keep trying to calm him down but when he does settle he still refuses the breast, the bottle, the dummy. and this is a cycle that keeps repeating itself every 5 minutes.

i've changed his diaper, burped him, given him infacol. his clothes are comfy...what can i do?

LeonieD · 22/10/2008 07:50

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

LeonieD · 22/10/2008 07:53

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

MelT76 · 22/10/2008 08:36

LeonieD am feeling your pain!

As I wasd feeding DS at 4.30am, talking to him, said 'hurry up mummy's arm is asleep. At least part of her is tho.' Cue massive rant from DP. Offered to sleep in spare room from now on and he said maybe I should! Git!!!!!

ninja · 22/10/2008 09:27

Don't worry lollipopmothershalloweenghost if we made a list of bad mummy things - I'm sure I'd win.

Leaving her in soaking cklothes in the night as she's gone back to sleep and I was tired.

Leaving her outside in the pram for some fresh air - eating lunch with my friend and not noticing the rain outside til I heard a big wail!!

leaving her in DD1's classroom after school while I talked to the head - cam back to find a classfull of 5 yr olds prodding her

I never put a vest on her cos I hate putting vests on.

DH had forgotten to put a wrap over her nappy last night so she was soaking and ended up wrapped in a towel in bed with me under a big duvet (it was close to morning ..)

Oh there are lots more - so if you're being shot, so am I!

Oh and I sometimes put her slightly on her side for a nap as she's less likely to wake up - not so much so she could roll to her front, although she's done that after bf at night)

That's it, I don't think you'll let me back on this thread now

ninja · 22/10/2008 09:40

You're all too at me aren't you? (or at my spelling)

notcitrus · 22/10/2008 09:48

ninja - hardly! I put a vest on A for the first time in a month today as it was bloody freezing in the lounge last night (I put PJs on at 5am and didn't get back to sleep till 7).
Swaddling blankets are the way to go. Which may be towels, T-shirts, whatever I've had in bed at the time.
He now falls asleep on his side/front and I leave him as he's got enough head control to lift and yowl.

Really must give him a bath tonight as have 6 week check on Fri and seeing HV tomorrow, and they're bound to ask if he's had one yet .
Wasn't until he was 4 weeks old I found out that topping and tailing didn't just mean wiping drool off their face and cleaning bum when you change a nappy. He doesn't seem to have suffered, though.

plusonemore · 22/10/2008 09:51

ninja bless you you're funny!

i too have put ds down slightly on his side, he seems to like it

digitalgirl · 22/10/2008 09:59

lollipop you're not a shit mother you just wanted to make sure your baby was well wrapped up. She won't remember it and it won't have done any lasting damage. I cut Alfredos thumb with the bail clippers when he was only 3 weeks old. He cried and bled and I cried and felt terrible. Then it healed over in a few days and he doesn't remember a thing. No flinching when I go to trim his nails since.

We tried out the new bedside got last night. Didn't go particularly well although not a complete failure. DS definitely knows somethings up. I tried to feed him to sleep whilst in it and he wouldn't close his eyes. Just kept looking up at me. So after to hours of him comfort suckling but not falling asleep I gave up and handed him I we to DH to let him sleep on his chest (didn't want to put him between us as that felt like properly giving up). Thenanother two hours later he woke for his 2am feed. I fed him up right on one side, he was so sleepy, then he did a poo so we had to change him. Then I tried again with feeding him to sleep in his cot. At 4am he was still awake so I stopped nursing and swaddled him tightly and in the end he fell asleep with his nose pressed up against my arm half on the cot half on our bed. Then woke at 7am. Will try again tonight.

FullMoonHowler · 22/10/2008 09:59

trying to catch up, between dd's bad days and dp working from home...

ninja - I put dd on her side if that's how she's fallen asleep in my arms, and worst still on her front if she's asleep on my chest (only way she sleeps if she's got tummy ache)!

moonlight - got my 6wk apt next wk, at nearly 8 wks cos the 6wk checks are only on wednesdays (so what, gps can't do checks any other day?), and were all booked for today. DD's 8 wk check is at 10wks, again cos only done on wed and fully booked...

ninja · 22/10/2008 10:02

On the side stops the jazz hands that wake DD up - I did think about mentioneing it on here before but was too .

I take DD in the shower with me, it's really easy. I have to remember that she's wrapped in a towel on the floor, as I've thought a couple of times 'I must put that towel into the wash' and caught myself just in time.

ninja · 22/10/2008 10:05

Glad I'm not the only one - it's all coming out now isn't it!!

foxytocin · 22/10/2008 11:12

hi everyone: dd2 has been having a huge growth spurt and I am either attending to dd1 or feeding or both these days. today she seems to be taking a break from feeding and has been asleep in my sling for the last 2 hrs. I know she will have a massive poo when she wakes up and starts to feed again.

I took her to work yesterday to have her cooed over. It was great to be out, even if it was just at work and it has reminded me how lucky I am to have pleasant work colleagues.

Please those of you who think your baby is being fractious in the evening and that your milk supply is 'low'. it isn't.#

when your breasts are 'soft' it is making milk 'on demand' rather than storing milk and as fast as it is being made, it is being removed. the good thing about feeding by swapping back and forth even if it is hours on end on the couch is that you can order all manner of junk from the kitchen and you don't have to get up and do something 'useful' like ironing or fetching in the bin because you are 'feeding the baby!'

but seriously, the milk is soft breasts is more calorific than milk from 'full' breasts. it has the highest fat content. breasts only make one kind of milk but when it has been sitting around the breast for an length of time, the fat molecules adhere to the milk ducts so the first thing the baby drinks it the watery, lower fat content, milk, the fabled 'foremilk'.

Milk that is being removed as fast as it is made is being removed with the fat molecules intact. think of it as your 'whole' milk.

enjoy your feedy snuggles. when baby is too fractious to latch on, just go ssshhhhh loudly as possible near his ear and jiggle him a bit. if she half latches and starts to cry again because the letdown is slower (doesn't mean your supply is faulty at all) then swap back and forth till the letdown happens and he is willing to suck. they get spoilt by the early days when milk is always there. now that our bodies are switching/finetuning to supply just what is being demanded, the baby has to learn to suck a bit before the letdown occurs.

once more, enjoy the feedy snuggles. before you know it, you'll be giving them spaghetti bolognese.

Debs75 · 22/10/2008 11:15

I put Robyn to sleep on her side during the day as she wakes up after 10 mins on her back. When on her back she has her face turned over to the side anyway. In the night she falls asleep next to me after feeding on her side but I try to put her on her back in the moses basket. She sleeps ok now but i think that is more to do with the grobag keeping her more snug.

DOCS I'm sorry to say that you all seem to have really crap doctors. I got a letter from my GP last week inviting me to my 6 week check, actually on the 6 weeks, at the bottom it said please bring baby so they can check her over as well. I thought that was just normal but I can see that I have a great GP. (Hope that didn't come out as smug)

Regarding the dragon receptionists I changed practice cos of a really bad one. She left me sat there with screaming ds for over an hour at sit and wait. Everytime she chose a patient she looked right at us before calling someone else. She was so bad that when I would ring for an appt I would ring off if she answered.

digitalgirl · 22/10/2008 11:31

Oo if we're doing bad mummy lists!

ds sleeps on his front for daytime naps. Sometimes he hates being swaddled so it's easier to put him on his front. I keep an eye on him to make sure his nose and mouth are to the side.

We only bath him twice a week.

Leaving ds on top of the duvet while I dry my hair and get changed.

Eating over ds while I nurse him and not noticing that I'm covering him with food and crumbs which I find later in the folds of his neck skin

Debs75 · 22/10/2008 12:16

Just got my Child Trust Fund pack in the post. My other 2 were born before all this came out so not quite sure what is the best option to go for. Anyone out there who has already got one what should I be looking for when I choose???

Bad mum lists.

Just left baby downstairs whilst we popped upstairs for a bit

Only bath her once a week if lucky

Eat first if she is hungry at mealtimes (can't make milk if I don't eat)

Keep forgetting that I have a pram with me and have to run after pram rolling away

Crash several times a day when out

Pidge · 22/10/2008 12:28

Hi all - saw the breastfeeding counsellor this morning about Arthur's weight loss. She was brilliant - will post more again later when I have a chance, but am basically on a regime of constant feeding, expressing, topping up with EBM plus I have to try to get to the GP to get on Domperidone to stimulate supply. We will get there, but it is definitely a full time job at the moment.

Moonlight - thanks for the cheerleading. Am just saying to myself - "we will get there"!

digitalgirl · 22/10/2008 12:50

Debs - just got mine too, how on earth are we supposed to know where to invest the money when the markets are in the state they're in?

Pidge - you WILL get there!

imoscarsmum · 22/10/2008 13:13

Notcitrus like your comment re not bathing, made me smiel.
If we're all confessing here then:
I have let Charlotte sleep in wet/slobbery clothes as she's gone to sleep, she's even slept on a dampish sheet too
She has slept on her side since 4 days old when the mw in hospital tried it to 'see if she sleeps better' - loved it ever since.
I have fairly long nails and should cut them for her sake but don't want to - end up cathcing her with them most days...

lollipopmother don't feel bad - Elizabeth will come to no harm for a short while - she'll do much better with a sensible, loving mummy who is human and makes mistakes like all of us!!

imoscarsmum · 22/10/2008 13:17

On the Child trust Fund front - good time to invest in shares as they are rock bottom. Odds are that markets WILL pick up and there is 18 years of growth so don't worry about short terms losses.

I've gone for a stakeholder baby bond from the Childrens Mutual. It invests in blue chip shares, low annual fees and moves shares to cash investments from around the age of 13 to protect against short term dips. Also, if you apply online and commit to topping it up by more than a tenner a month by direct debit before end of this month you get £30! Google it and it also got a good write up in the Times

MuwahahahaMom · 22/10/2008 13:36

hahaha!! digigirl! i have to raise my hand and admit to the "crumbs in the neck folds" claim! along with at least 1 other thing from each of yall's lists!

oh, and dh admitted to me the other day, while putting ds1 in his car seat at the grocery store: "I'm terrified that i am going to forget ds2!" ((he was referring to moments like leaving toby/carrier in the shopping trolley!))

hmmm must rethink dh taking both boys to the shops. hehhehe

lollyheart · 22/10/2008 14:27

Fraser has just had his 6 week check up and all is great

My gp gave me some domperidone to help my milk supply as i am mix feeding again now and hope to wean him off the bottle,he has also got his appt for his jabs i cant believe how fast the weeks are going.

Its ds1 2nd birthday on sat, i got a really good bargin on ebay, he loves thomas the tank engine so we brought him a train table with lots of track for only 30 pound

OP posts: