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Sept 08 - newborns, milk, nappies and all the rest ....

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Sassafrass · 03/09/2008 10:13

Hope noone minds me starting our post natal thread now that the babies are arriving so quickly.

Arrivals!
28-May - Johnworf ? Katherine, 1lb 8oz
30-June ? KashaSarrasin ? Felix, 1.39kg
26-July - Jenbot - DD, 3lb 6oz
11-Aug - Crabby - Lilah 2.34kg
13-Aug - Sassafrass - Katie Rose, 7lb 2oz
20-Aug - Sunshinemummy - Effy Marilyn, 6lb 3oz
22-Aug - Talia1 - Anna, 6lb 2oz
26-Aug - Jenpet - Samuel, 3.166 kilos (about 6lb10oz?)
28-Aug - Potxola - Lorea, 7lb 6oz
31-Aug - Digitalgirl - Alfredo, 7lbs
1-Sept - Debithescot - Andrew, 8lb 10oz

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
foxytocin · 18/09/2008 14:34

no DG you are not being pfb about it. maybe you can get someone else to put this leaflet into her hand?

foxytocin · 18/09/2008 14:35

I am afraid that nicking the baby is not the only thing that surgeons sometime nick during C/s. sometimes they nick other organs in the mummy.

DebitheScot · 18/09/2008 15:07

I usually do the same as sassafrass with changing nappies. At night and 1st thing in morning I (well dh usually) change him after he's fed from one side then give him his 5-10 mins on the other side so that he calms down again to go back to sleep.
During the day though he's normally awake for a while after his feed so then I change him at the very end of the feed.

Babies do have a very annoying habit though of liking to poo in a clean nappy. Sometimes before you've even done it up!

meglet I know what you mean about finding feeding boring sometimes. The middle of the night feed is so boring, thankfully he only feeds once in the night but it does take about 45 mins. Dh suggested downloading podcasts to listen to as I was getting bored sitting in the dark. That's helped a bit the last couple of nights- although I do have to try not to laugh out loud at some of the bits in the Chris Moyles podcasts. I also get uncomfy sitting up in bed but don't want to get up properly and can't get the hang of lying down to feed.

mustsleep · 18/09/2008 16:20

yes with the pooing thing will seems to like to poo whilst i am actually changing him so that i sit there watching waiting for him to be done...gross

anyway have used my pushchair (bug bee) all of 5 times and the bloody handle has broken and i have to take it back to mothercrap .... now i'm placing bets that i end up haveing a crap buggy for weeks whilst tyhey repair mine

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bogie · 18/09/2008 17:18

Hello everyone
Haven't had chance to get on mn since Phoebe arrived we have been on the go constantly!
She is like a little angel feeding and sleeping well, I was worried as ds was a monster baby who never slept and fed all day long.
I was sent to the gp yesterday because the midwife thought I hed dvt but the doctor doesn't think I have it.
I have uploaded a picture of Phoebe that I have taken today she looks so much like ds did when he was born
I will try and have a read through the thread properly later tonight when dp is home from work.

OFSTEDoutstanding · 18/09/2008 22:01

Hi Starlight my baby was born on 9th Sept. I think the thing I am struggling to get past apart from the fact that they cut her cheek (which yes is expected to heal very well) Is the fact I had never been so scared in my life. My DH had been sent home as I was induced and noting seemed to be happening and then by the time they called him and he got to the hospital baby had been born. I felt so alone and scared and it bought back awful memories from when I miscarried 4 years ago. Am trying to put it behind me. dd has had much more awake time and her stitches are now out so she seems much happier.

workstostaysane · 18/09/2008 22:52

hi there all,
starlight found me on a bf thread and invited me to say hi as i was on the sept 08 ante natal thread a long while back before i decided to take a break from MN.
anyways, ds was born on sept 10th. at home in a pool as the sun came up. he is delightful, feeding and sleeping well so far. his big sister seems to like him, although she is mainly interested in his poo at the moment.
we are having a nice week all together and i am slightly anxious about dh going back to work next week and its just me on my own here.

congrats to all. digitalgirl, am delighted to read about Alfredo. you sound great.

workstostaysane · 18/09/2008 22:55

oh yes, and also would echo what foxy says about using a wrap to carry baby about. it makes life a whole heap easier and i rarely burp ds after feeds. if he's not in the wrap he seems to need burping, if he goes straight into it, he's happy as anything.

notcitrus · 18/09/2008 23:38

starlight - my care on the MLU, delivery suite, theatre and recovery area was faultless. I must have met 50 staff and they all apparead to have read my birth plan and quoted from it. MrNC and both other partners were with me throughout with no question, except during the night G went home to sleep properly (MrNC+D alternated on a mattress and a dodgy reclining chair), and only MrNC came into theatre. He was changing out of scrubs and G was interpreting instead in recovery when A went blue - MrNC then returned as A started to move again.

Was transferred to postnatal while A went to SCBU, so MrNC and I arrived to our small but nice single room to meet G+D, and we were all in a bit of a state of worry, expecting an update in 2 hours. However the day's midwife came to say hello and also that A was on his way up to us after only an hour.

The ward I was on was routine postnatal at the other end, but my end was the more complex cases, about 6 single rooms and 4 4-bed bays, either for women who had given birth or for antenatal care. The day shifts were great - I had people falling over to help with breastfeeding (I suspect I was nearly the only one trying, as the bf room with TV and sofa was empty every time I went there), friendly paediatricians, etc.

The first night, however, was not good. Partly it was never going to be, seeing as I was in shock and pain, attached to a drip and a catheter we found was tied to the bed, and then had diarrhoea as well as a newborn baby. But as G stayed with me (on a decent mattress), it was OK. They were clearly understaffed - my new midwife said hello but we didn't see her again for hours. When we called the bell, random women would say they;d sort whatever, but we had no idea if they were midwives or people with no power or what. In particular I needed good pain relief, but was only getting paracetamol as was told I wasn't allowed to take my own meds. I couldn't remember if codeine affected the baby, so didn't just tell them to stuff it. And they (some junior staff, I think) didn't want to take my catheter out on the grounds it would be easier for me not to have to go a whole 7 yards across the corridor to the loo. Which might have been right if I hadn't got the runs, but these staff didn't seem hired for joined-up thinking. Got to a low point around 2am, but a woman turned up and asked if I'd mind if she walked my baby about for a couple hours to give me a break (gratefully accepted). Then another woman came in and said she was a midwife, how was I doing. I said, backed up by G, that I was in too much pain to sit or lie down, but at least I'd managed to start bf and done it for about 20 minutes all together.

At which point this woman said "we don't help people move around or pick up their babies for them, you'll have to do that yourself. And if you don't breastfeed for at least 30 minutes on each side, it doesn't count!" and walked off. I was convinced I was mishearing or hallucinating, but G confirmed that that's exactly what she said!! And that said woman was clearly bonkers...
Fortunately, a pair of orderlies turned up to clean up me and the bed, and they were lovely - two reassuring middle-aged women who kept telling me I was doing wonderful, hang in there darling, don't worry, seen it all before, etc. They came back about 3 times and saved my sanity, helped build a mountain of pillows for me and A to sleep on, and also said "course you can have codiene, loads of women here on it". My midwife then came in at 4am, I burst into tears on her, and she agreed for the catheter to come out if I wanted, and ordered codiene. At which point life got a lot better - I went to the loo and phoned MrNC and begged him to turn up early.

But the other two nights were fine (well, as fine as trying to feed a newborn gets, when unable to sit in bed, or get to the cot in under 5 minutes), MrNC did one, and G the other, passing me the baby when he cried, and we could take him off to the bf room for a couple hours while others slept, and they helped pull me into comfy positions in bed to try feeding and cosleeping. During the day I was remarkably awake which helped, and had a few visitors.

Shame about the one midwife being a total cow, but thanks to having someone with me, I didn't end up in total hysterics (just tears), and got as good care as anyone. My day midwife admitted that when people have someone staying with them, they do leave them to do more caring, just because of their workload (there were two women that night needing constant care). I was very glad not to be in a 4-bed bay though as they have open doors and I would have been panicking about people sneaking up on me - as opposed to getting woken up by so many people opening my door to replace water/offer bf help/top+tail demo/see I was asleep and push off again, which at least didn't make me anxious.

The care in the day was good, decent food (one poor meal but all others were good if you got there while it was hot), unlimited tea/coffee/hot choc outside my room, whole place was very clean with just about enough loos and showers/baths (in the middle of works building more). The matron also checked in with me a few times to check no-one had given me problems over people staying with me, which they hadn't.

So next time I'll make sure that details of any regular medication are in my birth plan and that I expect them immediately I get to the PN ward! And if I have any SPD, ask for a wheelchair-accesible room, as they have hoists and en-suites, but I wasn't to know I'd get so much worse in labour - it doesn't seem common.

A is now glugging for England - midwife bloke came today and confirmed he's fine. A did a wonderful demo of his urinary and bowel functions all over him. Bed now...

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mustsleep · 19/09/2008 11:26

morning all

had a better night last night as the collicky windy time seems to have moved to early evening, so he had a feed at 6pm then cried until i broke and gve him another feed at 8pm

he then cried until 10 then had another feed but had the dreaded trumps until 11.30, went to bed then until 2.20am fed and back in bed for 2.50 and then slept until 6am this morning.....so i cant really complain

i got my pushchair sorted,went to mothercare this morning and they called bugaboo and they are going to send a new chassis but it won't be until the middle of oct as they have none in stock but i can use the one i have until it comes in and then they will just swap it so that's another thing sorted now!!

eandz · 19/09/2008 14:11

thats soo weird! one of my posts was deleted. i wonder if i wrote something offensive in it. i didn't mean to.

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OFSTEDoutstanding · 19/09/2008 15:41

Thanks Starlight I have done and am sure that it will come in handy in a few weeks. Was signed off by the midwife today and DH goes back to work on Monday so feel a bit lie things are getting back to normal, just got to get through the next 4 weeks of being driven everywhere and not allowed to do much!

Ponymum · 19/09/2008 16:11

Hi, sorry I've not been on much since DD arrived, but I want to say I am finding it so encouraging to read of all of your experiences as I learn to cope with this motherhood lark! I have finally put some photos of Sarah on my profile. She is clearly the cutest baby ever - but then I would say that, wouldn't I!

mustsleep · 19/09/2008 17:13

she's lovely ponymum obv all the babies born on the 9th were gorgeous

eandz · 19/09/2008 17:59

my post was deleted on this thread! but maybe i didn't post it right and i just thought i did...(no sleep = crazy z)

it was primarily thanking foxy and starlight for the breastfeeding advice/links info!

the breastfeeding is going ok, but i don't feel the let down reflex even though theres lots and lots of milk...baby is feeding every 3-4 hours and then a snack of about 10 minutes after each diaper change so i'm not sure if i'm overfeeding, but he seems to be satisfied this way.

biglips · 19/09/2008 18:03

hiya everyone! Sounds like youre all doing great.

ive had a sweep today and im going in to hossy to be induced to get things move more. im 2cm dilated BUT ive got a question to ask about ARNICA tabs....how do i take it again?? as ive taken one this afternoon. How many do i need to take if i do go natural??

eandz · 19/09/2008 18:35

good luck biglips!

i can't wait to hear from nellyonthetelly!

jearund · 19/09/2008 18:51

Hi everyone, just checking in to say hello! Not having much time at the moment as DS is literally feeding ALL NIGHT. We got all of an hour's sleep last night (12-1am). It's a good job DMIL is here looking after DD. I'm trying to grab the odd hour during the day between feeds but it's no wonder the midwives keep saying I look tired and pale!
DS has jaundice, we didn't even notice but the mw is coming back tomorrow and if it's not better she'll do a blood test and he may have to go into hospital for phototherapy. I also noticed white patches today in his mouth so I rang the postnatal ward and they said it's thrush so I have to tell the mw tomorrow. I assume we'll both need treating. I hadn't realised that this was a common side effect of the antibiotics I had during labour for the GBS.
But apart from all of the above I'm happy! He's so gorgeous! I feel really blessed with 2 lovely children. Just could do with some sleep.......(as could poor DH!)

Ponymum · 19/09/2008 20:18

notcitrus thanks so much for your post about your time in hospital. I too had a very good overall experience but struck a couple of random people who seemed to have not read my notes at all. In my case I had clear instructions from the physio for no exercise for 48 hours (because she said this was the golden healing time for the spd joints). Then I had a midwife telling me she was going to remove the catheter after 12 hours and another one saying "oh no, the best thing after a c-section is to get up and walk around" ! I realise there are conflicting needs in a complex recovery, but when I next saw the physio she said I was right to stick to my guns and say, no, the physio said I have to stay in bed, leave that catheter where it is!

My worst moment though was in the middle of the third night - most staff had been brilliant and were all briefed on how to move my legs when I needed to get up into the wheelchair, how DD had to be passed to me as I wasn't allowed to twist and lift etc. But that night when I rang the bell in desperation at DD's screaming and said "I'm so sorry but she really needs to be changed" the support worker just turned off the bell, looked at me, and said, "well can you manage?" as she went to walk out of the room! It was so humiliating to have to say, sorry, I have some extra problems, I am not allowed to lift my baby and I need some help - have you read my notes you stupid bitch?!! (Well I didn't actually say that last bit, obvioulsy! )

jearund you have described exactly what the ponyfamily house is like at the moment! She seems to come alive at night, and sometimes we can?t even snatch an hour of sleep at a time with the constant demands for feeding and just plain wide awake behaviour which never seems to happen in the daytime! We are trying a different approach today ? I am so happy that on my first attempt this afternoon I managed to express about 60 ml, and it was really easy and didn?t hurt! (So amazed and surprised by this!) So when it gets to the point that I am so exhausted I can hardly hold her DH will take over for that feed. He is really looking forward to it and has practised with the heating thingy. Fingers crossed ? I?ll let you know how we get on.

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meglet · 19/09/2008 20:32

hi everyone. Just had a quick catch up and it's good to hear that everyone is muddling through so far. Meredith is still gaining weight and her feeds have become longer (a whole 10 minutes sometimes!!) so she is having a couple less a day now. After Wednesdays horrible evening (5 hours crying) she has mellowed out again. We are going to a wedding tomorrow, it's only 1 mile up the road though so we should make it in one piece . I have just got some control pants from Primark so I look presentable and fit my best dress.

debthescot LOL at the Chris Moyles podcasts . I am catching up on the sundays papers during the night feeds, I've even finished the business and sports sections.

eandz your bf sounds like it's fine. I'm not an expert but I'm sure every 3-4 hours is more or less spot on.

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