March 2008:A new thread before they start crawling!

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Thought it was about time....

yum. That sounds lovely. Is anyone else slightly worried about eggs? Am I the only one holding off til 9 months?

We're going to do eggs for the first time tomorrow morning - hellyberry's egg recipe is just in time

iwaso - any particular reason why you were thinking 9 months is a better time than now? My own view on these things is generally that if the govt says it is okay after a certain age then who am I to second guess them as I can't pretend that I know better than the bunch of scientists who have looked at these things in detail but eggs are the ones I'm a little wary of because advice seems to vary widely. But no allergies in my family so not sure what benefit there would be in me holding out really plus eggs make BLW breakfasts much much easier!

I must admit I end up having to bite my tongue in NCT group when friend lectures us for giving yoghurt, cheese etc. now as she is holding off cows milk products until baby is 12 months as she thinks it is safer, despite fact her baby is fed Aptamil which is a cows milk product...

Just got back from lovely day out to find DS has refused bottle today after also refusing on Thursday. So he's only drunk a sip of water since 9am and is now fast asleep I'm really hoping it is teething and not him suddenly deciding breast is best as I had just started planning my schedule for switching to formula. F**k!

HQ- Had a friend whose LO had eggs "too early" and had v bad reaction. Allergist recommended that egg WHITES not be given before 9 months and then only v v cooked. Think it's just the memory of watching it that freaks me out. Eggs would be v handy.

ooops on the eggs, I thought they could have anything after 6 mths except for honey, whole nuts, salt and sugar?? Not sure if you get the same booklet, but in Scotland you get a weaning booklet from the HVs which says that dairy and eggs are fine from 6mths providing there are no allergies in the family and eggs are well cooked.

cheesy scrambled eggs with toast are one of my LO's favourite meals!

just had mild panic and re-read weaning booklet, definitely says 6mths if no allergy history and as long as well cooked...phew...

Will stop being silly, then.

iwaso - how frightening for your friend it's no wonder you are concerned. you could try egg yolks first as they are less allergenic than the whites. If he is okay with egg yolks then you could just use those for cooking/binding until he is older and use the egg whites to make lots of meringues for yourself i believe you can freeze egg whites too.

DH cooked a very buttery and very cheesy omelette for DS this morning and it went down very well. Firm enough to pick up but soft enough to break off with his gums so ideal finger food. So far there seem to be no side effects so i can breathe more easily (i was a bit nervous!)

iwaso, if it makes you feel better the CDN drs say 7-8 months and nothing about yolks over whites. i am doing cdn/uk mixture - meaning have started eggs but only yolks. she hates them though (!) so I have been inspired by hb's french toast idea. need more protein dishes as we are vegetarian at home and so far the only think she likes is lentils. that, yogourt and cheese on everything (yum!) is carrying the protein banner. other beans, tofu, etc all blech apparently.

i think it's really hard to give something to a baby when you have seen a reaction first hand. my aunt (who is by marriage relation so allergy would not be in my bloodline) is dealthly allergic to strawberries and i can't bear to give dd strawberries even though it's likely to be alright by now. will wait to a year i think. it's irrational but i figure there's plenty of other nice fruit to occupy her until i feel better about it! :.)

monthly mayhem the only thing i would add to your list is cow's milk as a straight up drink

mnfm more veggie stuff works for us...hummous made with chickpeas or with butter beans (i love the stuff too!). also parathas stuffed with paneer and some grated veg. waitrose, your fave , do sell paneer now. i make them with millet flours which are pretty nutritious. but i eat too many of those so don't do them often!

DS would quite happily exist on nothing but hummous. It is getting a bit silly now, as he sees it and goes loopy. Has now associated the hand blender with mummy making his fave food so v difficult when he discovers that sometimes it's something else! He very much likes bean casserole,moussaka,lentil bake and falafel too.

MNFM - there is a book called Finger Foods from Amazon which has some really good ideas for babies (plus IIRC the lady is veggie so she does give veggie alternatives using tofu and quorn) and one I'm going to try on DS is little sandwiches filled with a mixture of lentils, spinach and cream cheese. I imagine you could use a similar mixture with other beans and hopefully the cream cheese and some of her favourite veggies would disguise the beans.

Eggs are great as a binding so that could be a great way to get the eggs into her for protein without her noticing e.g. make balls out of leftover risotto, coat in egg and breadcrumbs then fry (sort of arancini if you want to be posh and italian - think merry also mentioned this a while back). Similarly Finger Foods has a recipe for lentil croquettes, and you could do things like sweetcorn fritters with egg to bind. Now DS has taken eggs happily we're going to try these things.

He also had his first ever Yorkshire pudding yesterday which went down a treat! That could be a good alternative to bread for your DD as it is in some ways similar but full of protein from the milk and eggs. You can freeze Yorkshires so you could make a job lot and then have them ready to defrost. The Jane Grigson recipe here is the best I've ever tried.

on a similar theme to yorkshires, pancakes are a good protein-filled idea as well. great with a mixture of veggies and plenty of cheese done in oven enchilada style

How odd, haven't posted for ages, but yesterday's big event was 'eggy bread' for the first egg-sperience for dd, she loved it. I do find introducing new foods scary! She's 8 months. She's suddenly got loads better at eating after two months of hardly swallowing anything. It seemed to take a long time to link food and not feeling hungry!
She's 'cruising' now and trying to stand on her own, so lots of bumps and tears!

Can't be long as DS is shuffling along holding onto the sofa. He has been crawling for a week and is now trying to walk. He won't stay on my lap any more . But I have to remember that this is the whole point of the exercise.

Anyone see the advert for sausages? Where the "two best bits" for a man is his baby son being born and then leaving home? DP thinks it's rather amusing.

Better dash, DS is advancing towards me at a rate of knots.....

I feel very guilty as I give DD mainly purees and the odd bit of bread to gnaw on. Mainly because it is sooo slow doing anything else. Also I want food that a very finicky toddler will eat as well so that I don't have to cook too many meals. And I don't like cooking. I may try the eggy bread tho'.
We are all enviromentally friendly round our house and so if 1 of us is having a bath at 7 we leave the water in from the kids bath- or we used to. I'm not sure we will from now on..I felt very sorry for DH last night as he got all ready for his bath- Sunday Times sports pages, stereo on, dressing gowned up and when he was just about to hop in he noticed a little something DD had left in the water to remember her by, floating merrily amongst the bath toys. . How we didn't notice it at the time I don't know, particularly as DS commented on a bad smell. . I suppose on reflection I should feel most sorry for DS as he shared the bath with her.

DH had a shower.

Oh poor MrHips! Poor man...denied his simple pleasure! I do feel for him. I had a weekend of never quite managing to do a single thing I wanted. Am glad it's Monday, school's back in and I am in sole charge. Lots of things muumy wants are pencilled in. Even if a massive clothes sort is not a natural kind of joy I'd choose.

Well my major food break through today brought tears of relief to my eyes. The same poridge for breakfast for everyone (well, me and the ds's). GG has been only eating smooooooth puree and anything he can hold regardless of how lumpy it breaks down. He's always gagged on lumpy purees. But this a.m he managed some of our very textured porridge. Such a simple thing, but now my mornings are just going to be so much easier not making a seperate baby one.

SexOnFire ??? How did I miss that name change? WHich of us is having waaaaay more fun than I can shake a stick at ?

Ooh and hello Noolia and hello the movers. GG clearly gaggin to move but not really there yet. Just likes to stand all day, with help. Very busy cutting those front teeth at last.

He has done 2 things that made my hair stand on end, as ds1 didn't play like this until well over a year, as he was more reserved with people. GG can do peek-a-boo with an object to us, and beep-beep people's noses now he's learnt point and touch. It is so sweet to see, but I'm a mini bit weirded out by having so much active intelligence from such a small person. Really, ds1 was way more passive.

Oops, forgot I had namechanged. Sadly, the name is not so much an accurate description of my extra curriclar activites (sorry DP) but more an homage to the Kings of Leon song which I'm currently addicted to. Blame the tablets . In fact I'm currently boring everyone rigid with the album atm.

It's MFKAG,btw.

curricular

quick visit - hope all well.
Advice needed. DS has decided he doesn't want one of his bottles - he is 7 1/2 months - anyone know how much milk is minimum to get at this stage. He's probably getting about 12 oz (without the bottle he's dropped - trying to force it down but not interested) - any thoughts on what I should do about it?

I think this age the recommended amount is 500ml to 600ml daily. How many feeds is your LO having? If you're worried that he's not getting enough could you mix some milk in with his food?
FWIW, DS sometimes drops a feed for a few days and then decides he wants more on other days.

Hey evie,
In my NHS weaning booklet it says that they should be having 500-600ml per day in addition to solids.
DD is just dropping her lunch milk feed, so that leaves us with:
morning- 7-8oz
afternoon- 5-6 oz
bed- 7-8oz

Well, I've done this in oz and ml, so that's totally unhelpful- sorry. I think it works out to about 20oz min. But you can count in other dairy products he's having.

Am going to try french toast for dd soon. My brother says that cold slices can be reheated in the toaster and they taste just as nice.

Nice to see you glam

bye for now!

ummm - thank you so much. Not sure quite what to do - he has morning and night feeds - around 6-8oz and he was having one around 2.30 but he just won't take anything. He doesnt' seem hungry afterwards but I know it's not enough milk. He always has a milky pudding at lunch and cereal in the morning with about 4 oz but still I dont' think that's enough. Will have to keep trying with the 2.30 bottle and hope it's just a phase....thank you very much for your quick responses.

evie another tack if you are worried, (tho with the food as well it sounds like loads of milky input!) is to offer the dropped feed later in the day instead? mine has 7oz about 7am, 6oz 11am, not interested after lunch, loves loves loves to gulp water cup, will take maybe 2oz if i offer it and he didn't have that much lunch before big pm nap. but then has another whole 7 oz on waking around 4pm and another 3-5 before bed at 7pm.

So pleased that DS has no bottles and therefore am blissfully unaware of how much milk he has. Can pretend it's all ok. Sure it's nowhere near enough. Oh well, he seems to be ok.