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largeginandtonic · 23/07/2008 08:26

Mornin!

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charleymouse · 15/08/2008 12:06

AM sending big hugs and some northern comforts in the post. Take care and keep those lines of commnication open, only way to get through this. It sounds like it is just going to take time for both of you to readjust to your new circumstances.

Pebble sorry to hear you have been having pregnancy issues, hope the 20 week scan goes okay for you, do you have a date for it yet?

SKY hope DD2 ankle is okay and the christening went to plan.

PJ glad you are making some moves to get sorted, teeny tiny baby steps you will get there. The finances is a big one so well done you.

12YG I'll talk dirty to you if you like. LG&T is likely to be doing more of the action over the next few days so we may have to manage without her muckiness.

MKG I think I have seen an oven lock will check it out for you.

Jam good job you are with child or you would be getting broody

CAQL well done on the smoking. Dh has just celebrated a year smoke free. It can be done, even when you live with someone like me who can stress you out no end.

TMAM you can send me Margaret if you like, pleeeeeeease.

TSM just keep trying with the smoking, you will get there.

Hi Elkie how you doing?

SOH aprt from the obvious what other folk stuff do you like. My dad was a bit of a traditinal folk singer and DH and his mates couldn't stop laughing a couple of weeks ago when a trivial pursuit question resulted in me regaling them with "all around my hat I will wear the green willow and all around my hat for a 12 months and a day; and if anyone should ask me.......... it's all for my true love who's far far away ". I confess I had had a small glass of wine prior to this.
I just bought a Gretchen Peters CD as I heard the song "when you are old" on the radio and it reminde me so much of my Grandad and Nana, cue tears in eye moment.

LG&T glad P is okay and N is home. "We know what you're doing; we know what you're doing"

Am currently typing a novel about DH and how s**t my day was yesterday. I will prob not post it but it is cathartic to get it out.

TillyScoutsmum · 15/08/2008 12:21

AM - sorry to hear things are a bit crappy. Talking is good and a man (or anyone) that can actually approach you and tell you what the problem is (without prompting) is a rarity. I too am a lazy mare and struggle getting my head around being a SAHM (mostly). I love spending time with Til but I hate housework and don't do anywhere near as much as I should. I know it pisses dp off but I just find it so difficult to get motivated...

PJ - glad you guys are talking. It'll all be good and then you can have lots of rampant make up sex sessions and forget all about it . I am a Jennie (well a Jennifer actually).

I stopped smoking again last Friday and haven't had one since. I really am determined this time but I do have a history of stopping and starting again . I've smoked for 10 years on and off and usually stop for at least a few months per year (had 2 years off when ttc, pg and bf'ing). So stupid to start again but this is it this time. Wedding is 29th November and I am not going to be a bride with a faaaag hanging out of my mouth

AprilMeadow · 15/08/2008 12:27

Do you know what, i think we are all a really lucky bunch of ladies to have found such great friends who are there no matter what and who dont judge but offer helpful comments and support each other. Far better than any RL friends IMO.

charleymouse · 15/08/2008 12:39

Hear hear AM, pass the bowl, this is a really supportive group who help and support each other without condemning others actions/circumstances even when they are poles apart.

I love you all.

It makes me sad as I have a real life friend who was due to deliver DDs birthday present the morning after I found it DT2 had complications. She hadn't arrived by lunchtime so I thought she wasn't coming so arranged for my Mum to have DD whilst I went shopping for her pressy as I had hospital/GP apts scheduled in for the next week. She rang after lunch and said ooh just setting off so I explained sorry but have had shitty news feel crap, only just holding it together and I thought you weren't coming as you are late so have now made alternative arrangements. Have not seen or heard from her since. (except maybe a christmas card)

I keep thinking I should get in touch but the longer you leave it the harder it gets and trying to explain all that has gone off is so hard and upsetting that I am taking the cowards way out and not bothering which is sad as she was my chief bridesmaid and I do love her. If you are reading this Sarah get in touch

MKG · 15/08/2008 13:32

Charlymouse--reach out to her. You've had a rough time and she'll understand (if she's a true friend).

AM- I know how you feel. When I stopped working I went through a period of not wanting to do anything because I felt lost. I had to go through a period of mourning my former self in order for the domestic goddess that I am to emerge (I hate to clean, but I will bake a cake at the drop of a hat).

madeindevon2 · 15/08/2008 15:31

scoot? are you on FB? i can remember your first name but not last name.
can you remember my name to add me?

Pinkjenny · 15/08/2008 15:32

Scoot is on holiday MID2

madeindevon2 · 15/08/2008 15:48

oh pooo
thanks for letting me know!
sry not been on here for ages.
this is nearly the end of my 1st week at work (not been as bad as i thought it would be....) mainly coz F doesnt seem to give two hoots! just waves me off saying byeeee in the morning...
but i do miss him terribly.
but at least i had 14 months at home with him.
was gonna try find you on FB but the only persons name i know (coz i met her in RL) is scoot!

SKYTVADDICT · 15/08/2008 22:22

Sorry to hear about your shock AM.

Welcome back Pebble.

Aaargh!! DD2s ankle is broken. Blardy trampolines!!! DP never wanted them to have one in the first place! Plastered for a week now but as still very swollen need to go back next Friday to get re-plastered.
Just what we didn't need as I can't drive or lift!

Very tired tonight and feeling quite tearful and not in control. Going to bed now.

Luckily L still being a superstar baby or I would be tearing my hair out!

Pebblemum · 15/08/2008 23:45

AM sorry to hear about your problems. Its good that Dh managed to talk about it so that you both have chance of working it out. Does your Dh know how hard you have found it to settle into being a SAHM? Some men think its all cups of tea and daytime tv and dont understand how boring and lonely it can be sometimes (thank god for Mnet lol) I too verge on the edge of laziness, I hate housework and so try to do as little as possible but then end up having to do a big blitz now and again which drives me mad. You would have thought I'd have learnt by now but even after being a SAHM mum for sooo long I still fail to see where the fun is in wasting hours every day getting the house to shine, by the time Dh gets home it looks no different to when he left anyway so if I skip bits now and again who cares (well Dh obviously but the kids dont mind lol) I hope you can talk things through and yes you probably have changed a bit but then again Im sure your Dh has too. I know I could point out several things about my Dh thats changed in the last 6 months and he could probably do the same with me. As long as you both carry on communicating as calmly as possible Im sure things will be ok. We all hit rough spots now and again (some more than others ie me and my dh lol)but its how we work through them that matters. Good luck

Sky poor dd2. I dread these holidays someone always gets hurt. So far since they broke up E has almost broken his nose falling off a skateboard, a friends little girl has broken her wrist really badly and has needed two operations so far, my neighbours daughter hurt her neck on a trampoline and to add to that theres been many smaller accidents resulting in cuts and bumps, we've still got 2wks to go as well so god knows what else can happen.

We've also had our car blow up but its jolted Dh into looking for a new one so I guess its not too bad, shame it happened the night we had torrential rain and high winds lol, he was drenched by the time he had walked home [evil ]

I scalped my two boys today, grade 1 all over and then realised J isnt allowed shorter than grade3 at his senior school, now i have to hope it grows back quickly

Im off to bed. Hope you get a bit of sleep tonight AM (and all those with bubbas lol)Remember you can always off load on us whether its on here or FB

Themasterandmargaritas · 16/08/2008 07:53

SKY poor you that's really the last thing you need. Poor dd I bet she is feeling quite off colour and sorry for herself. I'm sure the tearfulness is quite natural, you are recovering from a major operation and have a newborn and have a daughter who has just had a major trauma. Enough to make anyone tearful, go ahead and have a good cry, there are plenty of shoulders here for you. L sounds like an absolute poppet. I assume your mum is still around to help out for a bit?

Pebble tis good to have you back. Did you take the coil out in the end? Fingers crossed everything will be ok at the scan. Gosh 18 weeks flies past so quickly...

April, I hope you are able to enjoy the weekend. You and dh have a strong relationship and I know you will be able to talk through this. As Pebble says he must have changed too. I think you have been together as long as dh and I? Married 9 years next week, perhaps its a phase we must all go through....

Charley, how did the job reapplication go?? When will you know if you get to keep your job or not? What did your dh do? Do you think there is something in the air at the moment affecting all these men?

Are things getting a bit clearer now Pink?

Well done Tilly, give it another go, you can do it! There is a photo of me on my wedding day fag in hand, I hate it!

LG&T yoooooo hoooooo, how is Phin? 'We know what you're doing, we know what you're doing'

SKYTVADDICT · 16/08/2008 10:22

Feeling better this morning. My mum is doing loads and will be around more next week when DP goes back to work. Think I was just very tired last night! DD2 is quite upbeat but has to rest with it up for about a week and can be very trying when she doesn't want to!!

I was wondering the same Pebble - what
happened to the coil?

JamInMyWellies · 16/08/2008 20:15

Oh SKY what a nightmare. Poor you it is completely understandable that you are tearful you have been through masses in the last couple of wks remember you were sterilised as well so thats going to mess with your hormones loads too. I would say get your mum and friends to help as much as poss. Can the girls dad take them for a couple of wks so you can rest and get healthy again?

Pebble so nice to see you back waht did oyu do about the coil? How on earth did oyur car bloe up?

MID lovely to see you too glad to hear F is coping well without you are you enjoying being back at work?

Charley are you ok did you get the catharticness you wanted from you non posted vent.

Just been up to the big smoke today to get my bits all spruced up for holiday Gwad I had forgotten what it was like in Oxford & Bond Street on a Saturday.

Hope you sll have a good rest of the wk-end.

JamInMyWellies · 16/08/2008 20:18

honestly what has happened to my spelling and I proof read that!

twelveyeargap · 17/08/2008 13:14

Fcckity fck f*ck. Just wrote the LONGEST post in the world and accidentally closed the Firefox tab. Seriously. It took me over an hour to write it.

twelveyeargap · 17/08/2008 13:55

OK - Try again.

PJ - Sorry you've had such a rough time. I agree with the advice you've been given here and I'm glad that your DH has got the ball rolling by saying he's not happy. That's a good start. FWIW, my DH "misses" the old me, as do I. In fact, I was driving through The City on Thursday evening and was aching to be one of the people standing outside one of my old haunts in the sunshine, with a jug of Pimms or a bottle of Veuve. DH seems to suffer more than me though. We used to have these HUGE nights out, pre-babies, where we'd get on so well and just bounce off each other and set the world and our relationship to rights over the course of the night. We really knew how to have a good time. It wouldn't float everyone's boat, but for us, it was a really important thing that we shared and we both miss it. If you and your DH used to share something similar, then I'm not surprised he thinks you've changed. You have, but you have L to fill in the gaps and keep you occupied and he probably just feels like he's lost something important. I know from experience that as your children get older, then you do get some of the "old you" back, but you keep a lot of the "new you" as well. If your DH was more involved in the "new you" and you reassured him that you missed the "old you" as well, then he might not feel so bereft.
We went through a hideous time for the first year we were married, but as SOH said, the way you deal with the lows is really important. We thought more than once that we'd made a mistake, but if you get through the first rough patch, it sets you up to deal with tough times in the future. The first one is the worst. Fight for your relationship now and it won't feel so hard in future.

TMAM - How are you feeling now? I have often thought that life was simpler as a single parent! It passes once I remember the good things about being married. I know you're an old hand at living abroad, but I can't help thinking it must make things harder for you to deal with, especially with double-0 DH away all the time. When I moved here, problems seemed much bigger and harder to handle. I could phone and email friends, but I was out of my place, out of my comfort zone and everything seemed bigger to deal with. I didn't really start to feel better until I'd made some new friends and got really close to them.

April - You and your DH have had a huge lifestyle change. Your financial good fortune won't change you as a person, but surely it must change your behaviour patterns? Certainly I behave differently now, to when DH met me. He used to say I had "changed", particularly after I started working in the City. He even went through a stage of saying I had become "snobbish" and I think (though he denies it), that he used to get irked by me spending "his" money. He'd done all this hard work, yet there was I buying bed linen from Habitat (perish the thought!), where Primark always used to do me before. It's one of those things that's hard to put your finger on - you're still the same person, but everything around you has changed very quickly and you're bound to react to it in some way. I mean, some people win the lottery and don't move house, but most people would and people would say "Oh, they've changed", like it's a surprise or something. I mean, why would I behave in exactly the same way as my poverty-stricken, downtrodden, single-parent self? Since DH met me I have become more confident (through his "coaching" I might add), done a job I never thought I could do, earned four or five times what I used to live on, got married, been fortunate enough to marry someone with a good job, had two more children and am living a lifestyle I never thought possible for me to have. I am still me, I still have the same innate values, but of course I am "different". What I'm getting at (very ineloquently) is that what goes on in your life affects you and you can't help that and can't be expected to. On top of those changes, there's the fact you've given up work. I too am finding this weird. You lose the identity that working gave you. You lose the validation you get from earning a wage and that is HARD. Plus, when you're newly "at home", it's like being new in a job. You're finding your feet. FWIW, I think you're mad not to swallow your pride and get a cleaner. We're both fortunate enough to live in big houses. Don't waste precious time doing a "painting the Forth Bridge" effort into cleaning it when you don't have to. Spend the time with the children, making nice meals and doing little things for yourself and your family. Everyone will appreciate that effort more than the cleaning. Really.

Lupins - I would have a breakdown if my mother had to come and live with me. Only a little thing, but buy some Colour Catcher sheets and if your mum insists on doing mixed washes, ask her to pop a sheet in with each one and then you won't need to worry!

SKY - so sorry about DD's ankle. I hope YOU'RE coping ok and not trying having to do too much.

LG&T - I'm assuming your radio silence is a good thing! Hope Phin is ok. Charley is going to talk dirty to me in your absence. Are you jealous? Huh? Huh?

No news is good news from this end. O is good as gold. Sleeps loads - up to five hours some nights. Feeds well, but usually only every four hours or so. Putting on weight and will probably be signed off next Friday provided the last of his jaundice is cleared.
A is being very good, MOST of the time. She's a right monkey sometimes. Knows how to wind me up. Someone with toddler-taming skills, please step in here! I do try to be positive, "Please give me the remote control, good girl." "A, give the remote control back to Mammy." You know the rest. I end up chasing her (the remote control has been replaced before, incidentally at a cost of £100, so it's not like I can think "ah, f*ck it.") She has "won" because I have got cross, shouted at her and chased her. Same goes for wriggling during nappy change and her trying to put her hands in her poo. My short fuse is the death of my parenting, I tell you.

I think she thinks/ thought O is biting me whilst feeding. She has been biting my toes when I feed him. (Bare feet usually up on footstool.) Have tried to explain, show her the milk, tell her what he's doing, but she seems to like chewing me... Has lessened in last few days though.

On Mars's advice, I have a selection of toys I can play with her whilst O is feeding. Jigsaws and books and so on, but unsurprisingly, she often gets fed up after 15 minutes and starts a wrecking mission. I may just have to completely toddler proof the place and learn to deal with the mess.

MKG · 17/08/2008 15:30

WOW TYG you had a lot to say there! The only thing I can recommend about toddlers is you won't be able to prevent anything. When Cruz was first born and Mateo was 20 months old, I would sit and feed Cruz and watch him destroy the house despite my best efforts. They grow out of it, but until then you have to wait out the "search and destroy" phase.

Why is your remote $100? I can get you one for $6.99 from target.

twelveyeargap · 17/08/2008 17:14

Bang & Olufsun tv. (Bought second hand from previos owners of DH's loft, I might add. We're not made of money...) Only a B&O remote will work and they're £100. Of course, after searching for months for the missing remote, moving house and deciding it was definitely lost, we bought a new one and I found the old one two weeks later. Two remotes is great though. Keeps the balance of power! T'was hilarious for a few hours after I found it and was changing channels on DH and he thought the tv was broken.

Search and destroy? Oh dear.

AbbyLou · 17/08/2008 19:00

Hello all. My goodness a lot has happened while I've been away! I see a lot of soul searching has been going on, and some brilliant advice been given as always.
We had a lovely holiday, relaxed and bit and did a few sporty bits but I do feel refreshed and the kids had a whale of a time. During the holiday, R actually started walking properly at last! She still chooses to crawl if she wants to go really fast but she is walking more and more.

charleymouse · 18/08/2008 10:11

Morning all, hoipe you had lovely weekends off to meeting to hopefully find out news about job. Must dash speak to you later.

Sorry about DD Sky

12YG will talk dirty later

TMAM off to find out nes now. DH just a numpty is all.

JamInMyWellies · 18/08/2008 10:12

Hi all,

lovely to hear form you TYG glad to hear O is a dream. Cant offer you any advice about the toddler stuff with A my A is being equally as annoying as yours tis a phrase I hope. When you get a spare 5 mins can you mail me about your hypnobirthing CD's as I looked into doing a course and it is going to cost around 200 smackers which is a bit beyond us at the mo. juliewoolie10 at yahoo dot co dot uk. Ta.

AM I hope you had a good wkend, and you too PJ.

TILLY keep on going you can do it!

cravingaquietlife · 18/08/2008 10:45

Hello, Just a quick wave to all

Manic here with the family...beautiful weather though so the garden and pool are being well used.

My lap top is in bits and being re-built but my genius BIL managed to get all our files off of the dead hard drive and onto an external hard drive for the time being. YAY no photos lost

How was the weekend AM? xx

MKG · 18/08/2008 12:34

Well I was ambitious this morning and made pancakes for Mateo, Cruz, and myself. Breakfast in my house usually is the big decision between cheerios and raisin bran. Mateo is very pleased right now.

Yeah that's about the most exciting thing I've got right now.

charleymouse · 18/08/2008 12:50

MKG I lurve pancakes, toss one over here will you?

Well on a positive note I am the only person who has gone for my job, informal interview on 9 Septmeber so fingers crossed I actually get it. How if I don't.

Back to work will catch up later. Waves manically.

PS DH was just being a twonk, tis okay now. Well as okay as it gets Very cathartic writing it down, although it did highlight where I had been a twonk also.

LG&T "we know what you're doing, we know what you're doing." CM sings in childish voice

MKG · 18/08/2008 13:20

bow-chica-wow-wow (we know what LG&T is doing)