January 08 - shiny new-year babies!

[Naetha]

Thought I'd start this thread now as I think there's already a couple of people to go on it, and I know there'll be an awful lot more!!

Will update when I get a chance

I have been trying BW. Although have not read all of it just the basics, actually i was planning to read the rest but charlie came a week early .

Problem I have is that although she is by and large doing 3 hour feed cycles day and night i cant her to do the activity bit as i cant get her to wake up after a feed, changing jiggling around etc doesnt do anything she just sleeps.

She was being fantastic going down at 7pm but then being a bit tricky between 1am and five.

Now she is pretty good during the night but between 7pm and 12am she ants to stay awake. And she is now sleeping in her cot when she does sleep and hasnt been in bed with us at night for a week now!

i may be being a bit unfair on her though as the antibiotics i am on are very strong and the 2 days of bf i did meant she has had green poo. The yellow stuff only returned tonight so maybe she will settle down from tomorrow.

Any tips?

Yes Nicky that would be the bit that puzzles me as he often sleeps after his feed and i would worry about him getting grumpy if he had to do the Activity between the two...?

Didn't do anything different to usual but we had a 2 hour nap from 8 - 10 pm last night so he didn't get overtired, then he went down at 11 and slept for 4 hours - he would have slept on I reckon if I hadn't woken him for a feed! I reckon if you can get the evening nap back you can get better evenings and nights Nicky.

Hallo,
just popping in quickly.
I think I am like MrsMcJnr in the sense that I am just not managing to post (MrsMc many congratulations by the way! Xavier looks gorgeous and i love his name as well.

I am finding being a mum of 3 boys just a slight challenge . My lovely 3 year old DS makes sporticus from lazytown look like a sloth and he is constantly wrecking the house. My big boy is a real Kevin and embaressed about his mum having her boobs all the time! Baby Toby is eating as if I starve him day and night and has only just gone to sleep this morning a minute ago but I now have to wake him to walk down to pre school to pick up DS2. Ahhhhhhh! I need a wife!

Be back in about 3 weeks when I get a window.
Love to all xxx

Hi everyone - any tips on getting an overtired babay to sleep without feeding them? Tana sometimes wants to be on the nipple even when she's really full and of course ends up uncomfortable and vomiting.

I was also wondering, if anyone had an episiotomy, how is the healing going? My stitches still haven't healed, and it's been 5 weeks. Am getting a little worried. Sorry if its TMI, but I was expecting to see a scar line, but instead saw a very red wound - doesn't look like the two sides are closing. Any advice?

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overtiredness is our greatest enemy with Alek we have realised. wrapping them up tight in a cot sheet and try a dummy or finger or thumb while rocking?

Also my caesarian wound healing nicely & I'm a great believer in exposing it to the air, It's difficult with the amount we have to sit around on our arses isn't it, but maybe you could sit in your dressing gown and give it an airing Fragolina? . But i would def see GP or refer back to the hospital (?) before your 6 week check if worried.

Afternoon ladies,

Had 6 week (more like 9 week) check for DD2 and it was rubbish, so annoyed. We spent 5 mins with the doctor who done the necessary checks and he then turned around, sat at his desk and started surfing the BBC website! He didn't even ask how DD2 was doing, didn't even check her tounge tie (I asked and he said it will go - while checking the weather on BBC website) and when she peed all over the changing table, didn't even offer any tissues to wipe up.

Also had her injections yesterday, poor thing was fast asleep when the nurse poked her with the needle and she cried for 30 seconds and then fell asleeep again. Not sure if it was related to the vaccination but she had a bad night last night where she woke up ever 2 hrs as opposed to her normal 4 hrs

Frogolina - I had an episiotomy (sp?) and it more or less felt ok, two weeks after giving birth. Had my post natal check up with the doctor yesterday and she said it had completley healed (9 weeks post birth)

Fragolina - you should probably see your gp (or the hospital) as that really doesn't sound right. I had an epesiotomy with ds and by 5 weeks it was pretty well healed up, despite my having a massive uterine infection for 3 weeks...anyway, better safe than sorry. I find having baths with loads of salt and some tea tree oil in is quite good for healing - at least, that's my excuse for long hot soaks in the evening . Oh, and as per all the discussion below, I'm firmly in the 'use a dummy' camp for settling non-hungry babies

I've got a general question for all you bf-ing girls out there - how do you wind your lo's after a lying down feed? Tamara gets really bad wind, pretty much regardless of how I feed her, so if I do a lying down feed in the night I still have to hoick her and me upright for 40 mins to wind her afterwards...and its such a hassle getting from lying down to sitting up that it undoes any benefit of having a lying down chilled feed in the first place!!! (Come back my stomach muscles...please!!! ) Any suggestions?

OK, got to run, have to sort out ds's dinner before the next feed...everything feels a bit tight for time in the mornings and evenings at the moment

xxx

Fragolina - I'd get that checked out asap - angry red wound doesn't sound good! Make an emergency appointment with your GP or call your MW for an urgent visit asap. Best to nip these things in the bud.

I have real troubles getting Ben to sleep when he's overtired as well. One way is to stop him getting tired in the first place, and putting him down for a nap if he's been awake for two hours, regardless of whether he seems tired or not. Sometimes it just ends up with him swaddled and either with/without a dummy (depending on how he feels and if he spits it out or not) and left to settle down. He wouldn't settle if we were still there in the room or rocking / holding him if overtired. Sometimes he just has to be left for 2 minutes to cry, then he flakes out fast asleep. Thankfully he doesn't usually cry when swaddled unless he's in pain or hungry, so even if he doesn't sleep, he still has a restful time, and then usually within an hour or so will have a feed. If he didn't nap before, then he will sleep after his feed.

Afraid I've no advice on the winding / lying down thing - can you give her a slight angle up by leaning her forwards/upwards over a pillow while rubbing/patting her back? I never had much luck feeding lying down - milk always sprayed everywhere!

oh gawd, so far behind...

anyway, i knew i had to say how well it had gone 2 nights ago with bedtimes cos i knew that was a fluke
so last night ds2 was wide awake downstairs until 9, then got him to bed. ok from then but timings were way off him being sleepy at 7.
so tonight i wasn't expecting much, but fed him just after 7 and he fell asleep so put him down - just starting to stir now so will prob be up and down for the next few hours!

anyway - no way can i catch up properly on here, will just have to try harder to come on more often.

to everyone

fluffy - does LO really need winding? i find that ds2 doesn't really after the night feeds - maybe he's more relaxed or not as distracted so doesn't take in air?
esp if it's taking you 40mins?
just a thought, maybe you could both just nod off

Hiya girls, how's it going? well H/v came today (new one since dd1)... and i liked her! i've met a lot through my job and know that some are totally barking, but this one was lovely! she's only a couple of years off retirement and has seen it, done it and bought the t shirt so more interested in what works as opposed to what the book says... gaveme good advice about Alex's sticky eye (teaspoon of salt in cooled bolied water... midwife said to use plain water which wasn't working!) and that it's ok to use baby lotion in bath water followed by E45 (or aqueous cream) for her very dry skin... tried it tonight and she already looks / feels better. I take it all back about h/visitors! however, she's coming back for the next 6 weeks so i might hate her by then!
Dd1 been horrid today, pouring her milk over the carpet, crying constantly, throwing food around, breaking all the rules basically! stressful day, as i know she's just feeling a bit insecure but at the same time don't feel i can let her away with murder! difficult to reassure her and give her cuddles when she's pushing the limits.... have a feeling there's more of this to come! anyway, bit the bullet and invited aunts, uncles and cousins for a public viewing on Sunday afternoon, we'll have a formal welcome to the world party later in the summer, but thought the close family would want a gawp at the newbie! now i've phoned and invited everyone i'm kinda looking round the house thinking......why did i do that? i'm not cooking though, have invited everyone for 2-4 and will got to M&S for food if necessary! quick hoover, bleach the loo and polish the taps and it'll be ok... won't it friends????
Madmouse, hope the flat went well and you are at home with your lovely boy enjoying him and the cuddles!!
Fragolina, go see the Gp, just in case, friend!
Nicky, hey pal, that's 2 of us bottlefeeding and it's not so bad, pour yourself another large glass of Merlot and the guilt slowly fades away.... !! (anyway, Alex now 7lb 11 oz from a birthweight of 7lb7oz 10 days ago... some of it's working!)
Lilyloo i bought Alex a wee dress from Asda this week for her "Public viewing" this weekend, but intended to keep her in sleepsuits for a few weeks, however found some very sweet soft trousers in Primark today for 50p a pair (i know, cheaper than dusters!!!!) so bought a couple of pairs for "getting dressed"! i reckon to throw up on and grow put of in a couple of weeks they'll do fine!
anyway guys, going to go to bed for a bit before the midnight shift... you know how it is! love to all, lolo x

hello all!

firstly - how did the flat go MM? really well i hope.

we seem to have hit a period of calm. Sabela's been putting on weight consistently and has fallen into her own pattern of feeding every 2-3 hours, which is grand. It's nice to have a bit of predictability. I'm sure it will change soon! new HV a lot more acceptable too.

Sabela seems to sleep in moses basket pretty well when i put her down but will not for dh. I suppose she knowsdh will sit for hours cuddling. She seems to have got used to having to go back down at night from me. She refused to nap all day yesterday though - it was party time! So was whacked for the night. fortunately dh took the reins for one feed so was ok in the end.

I find that if sabela whimpers when i put her down i only have to cuddle her for a minute or two which is lucky.

my 6 week check yesterday all fine.

Amani - sorry at how they treated your LO!
went shopping afterwards and discovered skirts are much more forgiving than trousers. Bought myself a couple of 14s and feel much better!

naetha / fluffy- I too found lying down feeding tempting - and i do for first morning feeds on the weekends - but also find the breast she's not on making milk fountains so it's very messy! fluffy - i tend to hand her to dh for winding after a lie down feed . surely your only sloution!

fragolina - hope wound gets better - did you go to doc?

Lolo - my Lo is also in sleepsuits with the occasional trouser for public viewings! Sod the housework - I have found that whatever job I've NOT done is the one that the guest stumbles over so you can't win! hope you enjoy party.

kt - i think sabela will probably be changung her routine - just as 've got used to it!

gingeme - hope george is letting you sleep!

bwmum - lol over 2 in 2008!

betterhalf - good tip!

lilyloo - 50pairs of socks! what kind of outfits do you go for?

nicky 6 - charlie sleeping better? how's the antibiotics going?

mum 2 sons. hope your boys are giving you some peace!

angechica - didyou decide what to spend your windfall on?

hi all...just come on here to have a quick grumble...Tamara decided to give us the night from hell last night - and the worst thing was, she wasn't even feeding...she just wanted company, didn't want to be asleep and was happy to let the whole house know it So am v tired today after a grand total of 3 hours sleep between 10.30pm and 7.30am - and she doesn't seem to be settling well today even tho she should be knackered!

OK, grumble over, everything will be fine just as soon as I get some shut-eye

Hope you're all doing well, catch up properly soon, xxx

poor fluffy! sabela has had days whereshe doesn't seem to need sleep. i've find myself pleading 'just one hour, just one' to no avail! it's no fin.

fun not fin !

fluffy = sleep when u can

Thanks for the advice guys - I did try and make a GP appointment about my episiotomy not healing properly, but the female doc was all booked up today, will try again tomorrow. (REALLY don't fancy baring all to the elderly male doc, or the very young other male doc) Even tried the mnidwife, who said I was already discharged, so no help from them. Getting quite worried - it diesn't hurt, but really doesn't look good.

DH been really stroppy and whiny lately, which is just how I feel (and I've probably been behaving like that too). I think we're both suffering from lack of cuddles and miss being all lovey dovey...seems like we're both exhausted by bedtime. I really miss our weekly 'date' nights - glass of wine and big gossip at the local. Oh well, our lives aren't over, just need to get through the first couple of months and things will settle down (I hope )

Amani , can't believe your GP, what an ar*e. So sorry!

Fluffy, I do sometimes wind after lying down feed, which is quite annoying. If I don't Tana gets all squirmy and throws up before I have a chance to quickly try and wind her. DH does the winding over the weekend, when its officially his shift, and also early mornings.

Lolo - hope DD1 settles down soon (bless her)and Sunday afternoon goes wonderfully.

Hugs to everyone who's sleep deprived, and needs one!!

Sorry for whinging earlier . Thanks for moral support!!

Frag- know how you feel - dh and I really hate this bit as we miss going to bed together, having cuddles and chats on the sofa and time to ourselves. But you do get it back - as you say, its just the first few months. In fact, part of the reason I'm so tired and grumpy today is that its entirely self inflicted...I chose to cuddle dh and watch torchwood on the sofa with him last night rather than being in bed with lights out by 9.30pm. It felt like a price worth paying at the time altho following the night from hell, I'm not sure in retrospect!!

Hope everyone has decent nights xxx

lolo - any better luck with dd? sounds really difficult to deal with. i've been so lucky so far with ds1 but waiting for the tantrums to really get going
good luck for sunday - dh has invited loads of people round on sat, luckily for fish and chips so i don't have to do much, but have to make the place look presentable i suppose...
my dad has come up for weekend to join my mum so maybe they can be deputised to tidy up

susie - calm is good

fluffy - you in bed yet tonight? one late night with dh is def worth it tho it hasn't felt like it today. hope you have a better night tonight.

frag - really hope you get to see someone soon, the longer it goes on the more you'll worry which isn't good.
it really will get better, those evenings will be back before you know it...ok maybe not that soon, but soonish

ds2 in bed at 8 tonight, all quiet on the western front so far...and parents put ds1 to bed

dh away tonight but back tomorrow for the weekend, hooray!

hope everyone is coping/enjoying LOs special early days/sleeping just about enough/etc.

Hey all just a quick one anyone else with spotty baby ? Just wondered how long they last for ? Martha has had them for getting on 3 weeks now and sometimes they look really red! Just wondered if that normal, was going to ask hv yesterday but she was off ill as i found out after ringing when she was an hour late
Well completely failing on getting Martha into any routine here. She is at this mo lay on her changing mat happily kicking her legs !
A quick ques for fellow co sleepers do you put lo under your duvet or not ?

Lolo hope your viewing goes well your a braver woman than me. Am sure dd will get better we getting there with dd at 5 weeks after lo.

Frag agree find that evening time is the thing i really miss!

Fluffy hope you get better night tonight, you just have no reserve sleep so it only takes a rough night to throw you completely doesn't it!

Susie i go for any outfit bought for her. I really haven't bought her anything other than three sleepsuits.

Hope everyone else ok and here's to good nights sleep ! LL

Hey all just a quick one anyone else with spotty baby ? Just wondered how long they last for ? Martha has had them for getting on 3 weeks now and sometimes they look really red! Just wondered if that normal, was going to ask hv yesterday but she was off ill as i found out after ringing when she was an hour late
Well completely failing on getting Martha into any routine here. She is at this mo lay on her changing mat happily kicking her legs !
A quick ques for fellow co sleepers do you put lo under your duvet or not ?

Lolo hope your viewing goes well your a braver woman than me. Am sure dd will get better we getting there with dd at 5 weeks after lo.

Frag agree find that evening time is the thing i really miss!

Fluffy hope you get better night tonight, you just have no reserve sleep so it only takes a rough night to throw you completely doesn't it!

Susie i go for any outfit bought for her. I really haven't bought her anything other than three sleepsuits.

Hope everyone else ok and here's to good nights sleep ! LL

lilyloo - yes re spots, ds2 has loads
they die down and give me hope that they're going, then flare up again.
all over his face, neck, top of chest, head, ears, etc.
the hv said it was infant acne and is hormonal and will fade eventually, no time scale tho.
plus even when they aren't all red, the skin is still really bumpy
they make him really unattractive, even to me!

Ooops sorry laptop playing up tonight!