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Naetha · 03/01/2008 08:10

Thought I'd start this thread now as I think there's already a couple of people to go on it, and I know there'll be an awful lot more!!

Will update when I get a chance

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fluffymummy · 12/02/2008 18:10

Oh dear , I've not been doing too well at keeping up with everyone...sorry ladies, but for some strange reason it seems harder to find time to post on MN at the moment !

Been a bit run down and tired over the past week. DH started giving Tamara a bottle of ebm for her 11pm feed 2 nights ago and the last 2 nights have been awful...she's gone from bf-ing at 11 then sleeping until 3.30/4.30am, then happily going until 7/7.30am every night to having 50/60ml of ebm at 11 then waking crying at 1.30/2am, bf-ing and then waking hungry again at 5.30 of course. DH is back at work now, so I'm coping with the nights on my own - definitely missing his help with the burping/3am nappy changes etc!!!

She's 2 weeks old today - any idea how much I would expect her to take in a feed????

Went to gynae & hospital for checks on Friday - the good news was that the infection had cleared, the less good news was that the gynae reckoned my stitches had been done so badly, and put in the wrong place , so that I was actually quite lucky that they had fallen out. Everything seems to be healing ok-ish on its own, but I'm basically going to have to wait a few months and then see how it actually feels...IYSWIM. So I was a bit reassured over the weekend, but then my infection came back again yesterday, so back on another 10 days of antibiotics from today....poor Tamara (and poor me having to deal with her nappies!)

Slightly weirdly (and a bit scarily - and look away now if this is TMI), I suddenly started bleeding really heavily again this afternoon - it was like I was immediately after the birth. Not sure if this is normal, or maybe a result of the infection, but I had a very panicky half hour or so before I calmed down and convinced myself (with the help of some nice MN-etters) that nothing was seriously wrong. But that has left me a bit wobbly!! Anyone else had that?

On the plus side, feeding is generally going well, despite Tamara's weird 3 minute feeds followed by hour long winding sessions (AngeChica - I also find lying down feeds much easier, no idea why but they seems to involve a lot less fussing) - the MW weighed her on day 10 and she had put on 5ozs - hurrah! And she is mostly sleeping happily in her crib, altho this afternoon I did buckle and take her to bed with me as she'd spent 45 mins grizzling and I was desperate for a rest...of course the instant we lay down together she was out cold!!

Gingeme - it was me wot suggested a meet up Someone (sorry, no brain and limited time so can't check right now) said Tuesdays and Wednesdays worked better for them - so how about Tues 26th Feb? Tamara will only just be 4 weeks by then and I can't see myself making it to anything any sooner than that!!

Is 26th Feb, say around 12, in Crouch End, good for anyone else? I don't want to hijack this thread, so if other people are up for it, maybe we should set up a new thread in the meet-ups section??

Hope you all have lovely relaxed evenings and lots of sleep tonight. Enjoy those lovely little babies (and if you're having a bad one, just remember 'this too shall pass!!......maybe that should be the title for our next thread?!!) xxx

fluffymummy · 12/02/2008 18:12

PS X-posted with MamaChris - welcome!! . Care to tell us about your little one...you know, name, weight etc?

PPS Sorry for the ridiculously long post...you see what happens when I'm away for 3 days?!!!

MamaChris · 12/02/2008 18:41

Hi fluffymummy!

Baby Daniel was 3.6kg at birth (approx 8lb), but very long (56cm, feet already too big for newborn booties). He also has gone from bf-ing every 3-4 hours overnight, with very settled sleep in between to wanting to feed - for an hour at a time - every 2 hours in the last couple of nights. Maybe a growth spurt already?

A meet in crouch end sounds great, we'd be there

susiemj · 12/02/2008 19:45

Hello Mamachris

Sabela's feeding a bit like this. Knackering, isn't it?

lilyloo · 12/02/2008 20:02

Evening all
It makes me laugh to read the posts it's like we are all living the same life !
Gingeme poor you hope the book works, let me know Martha a pain last night took ages to settle even with us then i ended up too scared to move her sp slept right on edge of bed! I am going to try moses basket tonight , i am, i am
Although thanks for tip Nicky might have to try that.
Naetha love the pic of Ben!
Welcome mama Chris
Fluffy can't believe stitches were done so badly I had lochia come and go for a couple of weeks tbh.
Neuro nice to hear from you.
Awen glad ds had good bday. Agree about the trying to enjoy it even when i am tired i really try to remember how quickly it goes!Beller poor you hope it get's sorted soon.
Toomany good idea about cinema might try that next week as it half term here next week so slightly worried about how i am going to entertain all 3 for a week
Hi to everyone else

So no suggestions for valentines then ? What have you bought your dh ? I really need inspiration ladies.

katyt1 · 12/02/2008 20:48

hi all

fluffy - good and bad news re the stitches, can't believe how wrong things can go hope it works out ok for you.

will look at 26th feb...
if you start a new thread, post a link here please, ok? ta.

welcome mamachris

cinema? how do i find out if i've got a child-friendly one? is there a certain company that you all go to?

re valentines, we don't do much, got a card, will prob buy some cheesy choc like the toblerone that has valentine packaging.
(hmm, speaking of choc, must go get some, on a massive choc-thing at the mo ).

i've been lucky with sleeping and feeding so far (and ds2 put on a pound this week!), but today he has been feeding loads so worried we are hitting the 3-wk growth spurt...

went into town and treated myself to some new clothes - omg size 18 in next normally a size 10! - always thought 18 was HUGE! but need the extra space round the tummy now. was told at bf group that c-s tummies take longer to go down, more swelling? anyone else with a c-s care to comment????
also got some cheapie tops in primark as i was getting fed up wearing the same few tops and only 1 pair of (maternity) trousers.
knackered after shopping trip tho. still get surprised by how little i can do....

right, sure i have missed loads, sorry.

ayrshirelolo · 12/02/2008 22:03

hello!! can i come in please??? i've missed you all!!! Just a quick post to say hi, and is it ok for me to crash on this thread even though Alexis (Alex unless i'm annoyed with her!) didn't turn up till Sunday? i could do with the advice and wisdom from you more experienced mums! Anyway, posted birth story here and will get round to photos when i can work out how!
I've got some catching up to do.... can't believe i've got 20 pages to get through!! not going to manage it all tonight, though, i'm still a bit tired from the whole birth thing so will just wave at you all, and start the big catch up tomorrow! lolo xx

susiemj · 13/02/2008 03:16

KT - I think I love you! I too went shopping yesterday and found I'd gone from a 10 to an 18! I had cs too and it was the belly that got in the way. Also massive milk boobs!

lolo - this is your thread! off to read your story.

beller - sorry about illness. glad you#re with sis. how's it going?

fluffy - awful about stitches. gladyou're getting treatment.

Lillyloo - have bought dh nothing! 13th feb is the day we first went out for coffee so we celebrate that. they had a nice bib in wooloies saying 'daddy gives the best hugs'??? a bottle/box/chunk of his favourite food or drink always seems to go down well. i find i sometimes rack my brains for ages and it's the most obvious thing he likes most.

this to hour feeding - blimey! it has one the trick and kick started sabela but now she's a little gannet and can't get enough. It was 20 mins on both boobs plus a two ounce top up for most feeds yesterday. sore boobs! and it takes an hour! and she wants the same again within two hours! ... angechica - any tips for a hungry one?

susiemj · 13/02/2008 03:18

hello too many - impressed by the cinema .

Is Mrsmc Ok? anyone know? and Sabinar?

gingeme · 13/02/2008 09:30

We had a break through last night. George slept in his moses basket from 10.15 to 1.30 last night sat up and fed him thinking if I layed down I would keep him in bed. Fed till 2 but wouldn't go back in
But he then did sleep ti 5.30 . Gosh I feel almost human.
Have a good day all.
Well done lolo

barristermum · 13/02/2008 10:27

Hi all, sorry to have been away for a while, things got busy. feel I am adjusting more to this life now - helped by cerys seeming to develop more of a routine - she's now pretty reliably in her carrycot and asleep from 7pm, I wake her for a feed at 10.30, she wakes once more in the night and then we all get up at 7.
In case anyone remembers - she finally pood on the 9th day and it was a mammoth effort but did not distress/discomfort her in the slightest so much relief for all.
I sadly have UTI which caused HUGE pain for couple of nights but now have anti biotics so hopefully on the mend. Fluffy - orry to hear of your trouble - what do you think your antibiotics do to tamara's nappies? My Dr said it wouldn't affect cerys at all but i wondered if that was what was stopping her going? Are you around for a coffee one day soon - I must have walked past your place on my way to the Drs.
Sorry to read of crap dhs in various housholds - hope they come through on valentines.

MamaChris · 13/02/2008 11:25

Morning all.

fluffymummy, susiemj, lilyloo - nice (for me) to know we're sharing the same nights! though Daniel managed to sleep from 11 to 3.30 last night, so I feel very lucky, even if I did wake up with full to rock hard bosoms, unused as they are to going 4 hours between feeds

susiemj · 13/02/2008 11:40

Hi all,

well done gingeme!

hello mamachris - hope you had some sleep last night. I got about one hour on h=one hour off.

barristermum - i took two courses of antibiotics for UTI - didn't seem to have any effect on sabela. lol on mammoth poo. glad it didn't hurt her.

sabela beginning to enjoy 20 mins in the bouncer so i can get the washing up done. not sure whether to be pleased about this or not . we've got a hip scan atthe hospitallater today because she was breech. I'm hoping it's not going to be a wailathon!

gingeme · 13/02/2008 12:33

Afternoon ladies. Iwas laghing to myself this morning. M no cry sleep solution book came this morning. just as I sat down to read it lo started crying and ds4 started crying. I just thought maybe I should give it to them to read because goodness knows whern Im going toget to read it

Naetha · 13/02/2008 13:00

Hello all

Welcome Mamachris - 4 and a half hour sleep - I'm jealous!

Gingeme - sorry your DH is being an arse at the moment. I find sometimes appearing a bit (over)vulnerable can snap DH into being nicer to me, although he's having a hard time of it at the moment at work, so I try and go easy on him!

Barristermum - glad the poo came at last! Sorry you've got a UTI - just make sure it's absolutely gone, as when they linger it can be horrendous, and cause long-term problems!

Welcome Ayrshire!! Love the name Alexis - we were going to go for Alexa if Ben was a girl, and then call her Alex or Lexa/Lexie for short. It's almost tempting to try for another just because I love that name so much! Just ask away with any questions you have - you can be guaranteed someone will have gone through what you're having problems with!

KT - don't know if it's just CS tummies or just general preggers tummies, but my tummy (non-CS) still has a massive overhang (feel like I should tuck it into my belt sometimes!) and is very much a jelly-belly even 6 weeks after giving birth. Other than that, the weight has dropped off, just need to try and find my long lost stomach muscles again! I can just get into pre-pregnancy jeans, but only because they're "under the bump" hipster style ones - I still wear my maternity jeans if I'm not leaving the house! Just remember you have had a major operation (not to mention a long time of being stretched!) and it will take a long time to get back to normal - much longer than the 6 weeks they say. I'm definitely with you on the whole chocolate thing as well! I'm really trying to keep it all to a minimum, but still get through an awful lot of chocoate and cakes every day! I just need to make sure I stop when I stop BFing or the weight is going to pile on!

Fluffymummy - have you found that Tamara's wind is better after she has EBM? I found that because Ben got a better mix of foremilk and hindmilk in the EBM, he wasn't anywhere near as windy and he went longer between feeds as he was actually filling up on the hindmilk rather than filling up on foremilk and air (gulped in because my let-down is so strong). At 2 weeks old she should be taking between 2 and 3oz every 2-3 hours, although at that stage Ben was taking nearly 4oz every 2-3 hours so it depends how hungry they are! As for the lochia, I'm still getting the odd bit 6 weeks on (has never stopped enough for me to stop using pads, although I'm only on pantyliners now). It's certainly been a factor in our non-resumption of "marital activities" along with a baby who is never as wide awake as he is at 11pm!

Lilyloo - no ideas for valentine's! We're not usually big on it anyway (both of us forgot or wedding anniversary last year!) but might be an excuse for a nice box of chocs!

Susie - I love your post at 3am as if it's a perfectly normal thing to do! Just shows how things have changed! I was wondering around the kitchen at 4am cleaning the breastpump because my left boob was engorged and I'd rather pump and keep than have it leak all over the bed! (Breast pads are a bit like sanitary pads when it's your period - very evasive at night, and always seem to be in the wrong place!). Glad Sabela's feeding better, even if it is more tiring, at least you know she's getting a good amount Good luck at the hospital today - hope she behaves herself and the results are good

Well DH was a bit naughty yesterday and threw a sicky (well, a poor night's sleep followed by a massive headache, so half deserved!) and we had a lovely day together. It was nice to have some time together when we're not locked in the weekend routine (go shopping, take remnants of kitchen that are still in the garage to the tip etc) and just chill out together. Loving the gorgeous weather as well - almost feels like spring!

For those of you that are still struggling to get LOs to sleep in their own beds/baskets, I'd recommend trying swaddling, even if you've tried it before and it didn't work. Ben hated being swaddled in the first couple of weeks, but recently he's really been struggling to fall asleep as he always wakes himself up with flailing arms and kicking legs. We've got him to sleep in his moses basket both during the day and at night by swaddling him tightly. Earlier this morning he'd been awake for 3 and a half hours but just wasn't settling, not even on my chest. Within 30 seconds of swaddling him and putting him down in his moses basket his eyes were closed, and a minute later he was asleep. He also stays asleep for much longer as he doesn't wake himself up flailing after half an hour, and will settle himself back to sleep again if he does wake.

Feeding is still a bit of a struggle - he much prefers EBM but it can be a faff as when he wakes up he goes from fast asleep to wide awake and screaming with hunger in about 30 seconds, so it's always a pain having to heat the bottle up from the fridge (I'm always one feed ahead of him usually), although if I haven't got anything expressed, I'll just stick him on the boob. Yesterday he gave my areola a massive hickey by furiously sucking on the wrong bit - was excruciating, and in the 15 seconds or so it took for me to realise he'd latched on to the wrong bit and to break his super-strong suck he'd given me a bruise an inch across! Realistically, I think I am going to start giving him a formula top-up last thing at night as he's always ravenously hungry at that point, and will take 5oz of EBM and still be hungry after that. Still, every day I don't use the formula, I see it as a small victory I can't believe I've got to 6 weeks BF given how close I was to quitting after a week!

Are people managing to get their LOs into any kind of routine yet? generally Ben will go to sleep at 7pm ish, but usually downstairs with us (as DH doesn't get back from work until 6-6:30) or in DH's arms. Sometimes he'll wake and feed on and off, but it depends if he's having a hungry day or not! We then usually put him down at about 11:30 after a good long feed and sometimes a bath, but then he can wake up at any time from 1:30 to 4:30, again depending on how hungry he is! He then usually wakes again between 5:30 and 7am for his morning feed. During the day he can spend up to 6 hours awake (although it wasn't particularly pleasant last time that happened!) but recently I've been trying to make sure he goes down for a nap after 2 hours of being awake regardless of whether he's giving sleepy cues or not. If he's swaddled he'll either fall straight asleep, or happily (well I guess he's happy - he doesn't cry!) lay there for half an hour, then fall asleep.

I do often feel like a terrible mother sometimes though, if I mistake a hungry cue for a tired cue and try and put him down to sleep, then try him on the boob and he feeds ravenously for half an hour! That and the odd nappy I've forgotten to change because I thought I'd changed at a certain time but hadn't! Still, it's all a (steep!) learning curve

His wind seems to be a lot better, and we're actually doing without the infacol and colief (if anyone wants the colief, let me know - it's expensive stuff and got half a bottle left!). I don't know if this is due to the larger EBM feeds, or the result of a cranial osteopathy session we had last week. A friend at work recommended it even if they don't appear to have anything wrong with them just as a post-birth "MOT", and although there wasn't a result immediately, in the last couple of days his trapped wind / straining to poo has seemed a lot better. Got another session tomorrow as well - it's £25 a session for half an hour (first session was free) and well worth it (assuming it is that that's stopped the wind!) as his crying has reduced from about 2-3 hours a day to about half an hour.

Got my 6 week post-natal check on Friday as well - any idea what happens at these? Will I get an examination? (Affects whether I bother to shave my legs you see!). I was hoping to have done the deed by then, but continuing lochia and a demanding baby have put a dampener on that one! For those of you that had oedema in your fingers / carpal tunnel, has it gone down yet? My left hand is still very stiff, especially at night/morning.

Right, better be off now and make the most of Ben being asleep. Apologies for mammoth post, and hope you're all well

Any updates from LuckySalem and Fragolina? Has been all quiet from them recently...

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susiemj · 13/02/2008 16:49

ace post naetha - I can second the swaddling. it works with sabela too. no idea what happens at 6week check but i hope it goes well.

i can also say that fennel tea does help - although I still can't express as much as you.

hip scan was fine [radiologist said it wasn't even necessary ]. anyone feel like making an appointment is a huge logistical feat? that is, getting baby to the point where they probably won't cry and probably won't poo during the appointment. i've hugged sabela all afternoon because she was so good even though we were kept waiting 30 mins.

feel pretty too though as saw a friend made when our Los were born at the x-ray dept today. Her LO only started putting on weight LAST WEEK and was born the day before sabela. they said the HV was really relaxed about it despite him having lost way more than 10% of body weight. sabela started putting on weight 4 WEEKS AGO, never even lost 10% and only lost 20g at one weigh in and we were made to feel like absolute criminals! grrrr. i will never forgive that bloody HV. New one coming tomorrow so cross your fingers for me that she's a bit more reasonable PLEASE

enjoy your evenings!

MoominMum · 13/02/2008 17:03

Fluffymummy - fwiw I was a bit un-nerved after 3 weeks when I noticed fresh bleeding downstairs but they said this was normal and would be stimulated by breastfeeding - Magnus was tiny at birth so by then had just managed to sort out his latch and we'd been bf-ing more - wasn't loads of blood but it spooked me cos it was def fresh.

Naetha - had my 6 wk check yesterday and the Dr didn't bother with examination, even tho I had stitches - I was a bit surprised tbh but think she didn't fancy it as am having first period at the mo! She also didn't bother to look at lo's red book but gave him a once over and unfortunately found a wee hernia in his bag of bits (cue panicked Moominpop!) but should be sortable. Think it's mostly a fail-safe to make sure you haven't got PND/ anything else obviously wrong and to drive home the contraception message. As to carpal tunnel - I still have tingling in pads of index and middle fingers but it's got a lot better this last week. Have very tender pain in wrist which I think is a strain from holding him but Doc said this was prob carpal tunnel too - hmm, not sure, it feels like a strain to me!

Generally - we have loads of smiles this end and he's working on a really cute little chuckle. Starting to enjoy rattley toys and bells - seems really excited when he manages to make a noise with them himself. Finding establishing a routine a bit difficult apart from I aim to go to bed at 9pm and am available for next shift from 3am and Moominpop aims to come to bed at 3am and is available from 9am - never works that way! But at least we are both on hand all day so we can split the care and we both get at least 5 hrs straight sleep a night, which I reckon most folk would kill for!

Just a word in support of our other halves (and maybe a kick up the arse for the ones who've been slacking!) - mine's been a veritable hero, am more in love with him every moment I see him with our boy - and I was rather partial to start with! And despite the stitches, bleeding, piles, milk leakage, drool, pee and sick that regularly adorn me and the old-quiltish quality of my flesh at the mo, he still manages to make me feel attractive (relatively!). Haven't got him anything for Val Day, the poor man .

AngeChica · 13/02/2008 18:22

Anyone still feel a bit weepy a couple of weeks in? I keep getting "overwhelmed" feelings still. Some of the things most upsetting are:

DS doesn't like having his nappy or clothes changed and unless I catch him when still drwosy, howls throughout.

Also we have been trying to take him out in his pram, after I've fed him for ages, but he just cries and doesn't seem to enjoy it, or is still hungry.

Also (whispers) Not really enjoying BF, mainly cos still stressing about not giving him enough. It is so binding, and he feeds continuously for such long stretches!

Haven't got any tips really for hungry LOs although we still give him 2 FF bottles I save this for night time and still BF around each bottle feed so i don't go too long without BF. But usually by the evening I just feel quite drained and empty!

Anyone a bit further along than me had any of this and found it getting better?

Re: jelly belly ... I was amazed to weigh myself and realise I had lost 2 stone in one fell swoop, comprising of big boy DS and his swimming pool of waters I presume. Still just under a stone to lose but I do feel my tummy has gone down quite a lot since the CS. Be careful not to overdo it CS ladies, even if you feel OK, my cousin started lugging washing about after 2 weeks and her scar started to separate (ew!).

NB Swaddling has always helped for our LO. But am about to start putting him in grobag, I think you can still swaddle with a cot sheet on top of this is that what you do naetha?

katyt1 · 13/02/2008 20:33

naetha - brill post! i know i know i need to give myself time for 'bump' to go down, just it was quicker with ds1. and i had put on less weight with him. ah well, my 18 jeans are comfy, if a bit long
sorted out my maternity clothes and put in the loft today - hope to need them in a coupld of years time
and sorted out clothes that ds2 has already grown out of!

susie - loving you right back i can die happy now...! no really it made my day to hear the same story from someone else! sorry for you tho!

ange - not tears so much as short-temper, esp with ds1 tho when dh goes back to work properly and i have no help (have my parents for 2 weeks from next week), we'll see.... think the deadly time of 4am-ish when you feel you are alone in the world that it hits you.
going for a grobag tonight with ds2 too, hope to turn our heating down then!

sneaked out and got dh the toblerone bar - hidden under my pillow atm - must remember not to sleep on it!

re lochia (fluffy asked i think?) - mine seems to very nearly stop, then start again, boo hiss! want it to stop as another sign of things returning to normal. managed to wear my wedding ring to day, hooray!

right, dinner here.

MoominMum · 14/02/2008 07:27

Re - tears and emotional days - haven't had this for a couple of weeks now and am sure mine were hormonal - would feel full to the brim with tears just waiting to spill over and since we had a few problems with bf to start with, it would always be something related to that which would set me off - mostly his wee face looking all bereft as I once again conceded defeat and put my knocker away to give him fussy messy cup feed instead - broke my heart! I would cry buckets in a not very upset sort of way (more tears than actual sobbing iykwim), then would feel fine. I had it about once or twice a week and the rest of the time felt blissfully happy, laughing and joking about plenty and certainly not depressed.

MoominMum · 14/02/2008 07:55

OK - has anyone done 'it' yet? You know, nudge, nudge; wink, wink; say no more!! Have been up for it for ages but obviously wanted the lochia to stop and now have my period, but I think I'll feel more confident once it's finished that everything has cleaned itself out iykwim! Stitches seem to have gone and tampons feel OK but am a bit nervous tbh in case it's all changed in there and might feel weird to Moominpop! Apologies if tmi, but reassurance/ tips from experienced mums gratefully received!!

BeckyAu · 14/02/2008 08:37

morning ladies... apologies for lack of punctuation and capitals - typing one handed

HELP! dd is now 3 weeks old and i've just had the worst night. i am breastfeeding and that's going ok and she's great during the day feeding well and will sleep 3 or 4 hours between feeds. however once the evening comes she feeds alot more (or wants to try) and gets fretful and just will not settle. i expressed yesterday for the first time no probs so dh can get involved and i get a quick break and she had nearly 4oz at about 10.30 but then just screamed and wouldn't settle. she'll lie at the breast and not feed - it's like a comfort thing, then pretty much fall asleep though as soon as i put her back in her moses basket she wakes up and we start all over again. last night i didn't get her to sleep til nearly 4am. i was so frustrated and upset but i just don't know what to do. i know i'm tired so everything's worse, but i read others like barristermum have managed to settle LOs at 7, feed at 10 and once in night then get up at 7.... i long for this!

what am i doing wrong? any help gratefully receivd as last night when i was trying to put her down for the 95th time all i could think was this isn't fun and it isn't rewarding. i feel like a milk cow and i'm not having a good time.

sorry for the moan. i will try to get some sleep today and try not to cry too much but if any one has any ideas about what i could do that'd be great. bless dd she is only 3 weeks old so maybe i expect too much? it's just the huge change in behaviour from one end of the day to the other that's so hard. dh has been so wonderful and even he who is normally so calm got upset last night...

thanks so much
becky x

BWMum · 14/02/2008 08:59

Becky - no expert advice as I'm also a first timer, but I don't think you're doing anything "wrong" at all. Once of the most helpful things a midwife said to me when I was struggling with feeding was "don't worry, you're both learning". I really took that to heart and think that whenever I'm struggling - with feeding, sleeping or whatever .

My DD was lovely - woke once at night after 11pm feed then slept to 6:30/7. Then we also hit about the 3 week mark and that all changed. My HV said that it was to do with her becomming more alert and aware of her surroundings. Just unfortunate she chose to do that at night! I started giving her a massive feed last thing which seems to get her through a four hour stretch in the night.
About the same time, DD also started feeding for 3/4 mins and falling asleep but waking the minute I put her down. HV said she was essentially using me as a dummy because she wanted something to suck for comfort so suggested I give her a dummy. I do this just as she's falling asleep and she sucks like mad for about 10 mins and then once she's off, I take it out her mouth. Works well for us, but I know dummies are a controversial thing so might not be what you want to do.

We're now in a routine where she feeds at 10:30/11, then again around 2:30/3 and around 5:30/6 - which is tiring but manageable.

I believe babies have a growth spurt around 3 weeks so maybe that's part of it too?

I do hope you manage to get some sleep today and feel better soon!!

toomanyshoes · 14/02/2008 10:54

Becky - you are definitely NOT doing anything wrong! 3 weeks is still so tiny and babies are just very unpredictable. You can guarantee that the minute you think 'great, this is what works' it will all change again (see Naethas post re swaddling, Ben hated it at first but now its the thing that comforts him) There just isn't a right or wrong and this time goes so quickly that you mustn't beat yourself up over it.
Ds is generally more unsettled in the evening (at the mo, will probably be unsettled in the mornings in a fortnight!!) and is much happier sleeping on me until about 11 when he will sleep in the moses basket. With my first i would have been worrying about making a rod for my own back etc but this time i am going with the flow as i know how quickly it all passes. On a practical level tight swaddling and a dummy might well help (i only used a dummy until DD was a few months old and had no probs getting rid of it)
Keep repeating the mantra of this thread 'this too shall pass' and have some chocolate

barristermum · 14/02/2008 11:24

becky, I 2nd the rejection of the idea u r doing anything wrong. Cerys only got into that routine at 4 weeks and I dread that it is, like so many other things, temporary and we will return to sleeplessness v soon. We used a dummy for a bit as she was using me like one, and already she doesn't seem to need it so much and 3 out of 4 times we don't need it - we also take it away from her just as she's going to sleep (which can be frustrating as it can wake her but now she's kinda used to it and doesn't fight it so much).
And to Age as well - I have only just stopped feeling weepy and overwhelmed and allowed myself to actually start enjoying this whole thing. I was plagued by the sense of responsibility and certainty I was messing everything up for her. It's such a new world and noone tells you how hard it's going to be - cos you wouldn't believe it if they did!

Happy valentines to all. Cerys had her first valentine from her daddy - to the hottest babe! He and I are having a romantic meal tonight (you can guarantee this will be the night Cerys doesn't settle can't you?) - am off to get fillet steak for a stroganoff, parma ham and melon to start and a gu hot choc souffle pud - all low maintenance. I intend to put make up on and so moomin - maybe even tonight we will turn the old engine over .

Am off to HV later - cross fingers for weight gain for c - if she hasn't I am so going over to mixed feeding!