********** December 2006 PART 2 **************

[castlesintheair]

Will this do?

Hope the stress is easing Oli. Glad to hear things are a bit better Eli.

DD2 ate a massive bowl of baby gunk yesterday. Yee ha! Took the spoon out of my hand and tried to feed herself. Bless: that's the difference between boys and girls. She's also rolling all over the place and sitting AND on her front she's starting to push off. Help! I'm not being smug at all, I want her to be static for as long as possible. There was a baby at playgroup the other day who was walking at 8 months. The mother seems rather chuffed about it but I'd hate it! All that worry about them hurting themselves would be pretty hard IMO.

Also, when I put her in her Bumbo yesterday, she stood up and nearly fell head first out of it. What is going on?!?! DS didn't walk until he was 20 months.

Indith, could just have been tired. Did you wake him up to feed?

Good luck at hospital today cocobabe. Note to self: read all posts before posting!

Indith are you another reflux sufferer?

cause if so this is what Hannah does every so often, the only thing I have found that works is calming her down with the dummy and then while she is calm and sucking whip the dummy out and put the breast in

It doesnt always work, but 9 times out of 10 she will then have most of her feed and is ok again, I think its just the acid causing pain.

Castles my DD1 walked at 8 months and your right its a pain in the posterior!

Hannah isnt being half as bad and I'm convinced its because she has been on medication much earlier, DD1 was practically crawling by 4months and I'm sure its because of the pain she was in. Though saying that Hannah pushes herself up standing if you have hold of her hands and has sat up a few times when she has been laid back in a v pillow.

Am hoping Hannah will hold off a bit longer as it will mean having to constantly clear up all of DD1's toys that she could reach...

Hope it all goes well at the hospital coco!

Coco, hope everything is well.
Castles, I know what you mean! ds can do the back end of crawling but face planted in to carpet or can lift head, chest etc off floor but can't do both yet - but I have no room that would be safe for him atm if he could! We were hoping that we would do childproofing at about 8 months, think dh will have to take a week off so we can get safer furniture, put away the piles of c£*p and cover those sharp corners.
We should have a 'what has you LO done recently that made you smile' moment to cheer us all - Indith with smiling at kisses, margo with laughing noises! what else?

Indith, ds2 will take Nuk pacifiers only (and then only rarely ) and Playtex nurser bottles when I'm at work. He won't take a bottle from me apparently as when I was trying to find one before I went back he hated anything in my hand, lol

Good luck with the scan coco.

I played tough with ds2 last night and got him to skip one feed. Still was up every two hours tho

Hope all ok, Coco?

omg, WB, you're scaring me re refluxy babies being on the move sooner! dd1 refused to weight bear for her nine month check, wasn't fussed about walking till well over a year, and wouldn't let go of my finger till 16 months. This one, on the other hand, is trying to stand the entire time, will sit up from semi-reclining, is rolling and trying desperately to crawl...

I'm with Castles, no early walkers please

Funny things, hmm...

She makes me laugh all the time (except at night). Latest is blowing raspberries and saying 'mamamam' (I know, its just a noise, but so nice) and the gurgling, chuckling noise when I kiss her neck.

It really is an adorable age

Oh lordy, do you think it's true? Reflux babies are off sooner? I've noticed DD2 is crankier now if she's not being held in standing position. If I put her on the floor she just rolls onto her tummy and tries to push off. I thought I was having a slightly easier time of it too at the moment

Funny things here (slightly gross warning): when I'm changing her nappy I say "have you done a poo?" and if she has I glance at her face and she has this knowing look on it then bursts out laughing. She's got a gorgeous husky laugh too, like she's on 40 a day.

Reminds me of DD1 at that age, she had a Sid James cackle. Still has ...

Does anyone else find the little things their LO is doing now takes them back to when their other DCs were that age? I had forgotten most of them

Didn't think he was tired he had had a nap earlier and was full of beans when I first put him on. Not a reflux sufferer WB!

Ah well he slept on me for half an hour, fed and then slept in his cot for a bit so mayb he was tired for some reason. Has been fab the rest of the day though. Currently playing next to me being very loud and chatty

Hope things went well for Coco today.

Babies thinking about moving already! YOu tell them to just sit still for a little while longer time is just not allowed to pass that quickly! Ah well at least I know ds will b a while yet young as he is

Well, today hasn't been too bad, considering how utterly knackered I am! Thanks for all the sympathy, I need it at the moment, 6 night of 3-4 hours max sleep is taking it's toll .

Took all 3 dcs to softplay, ds1 actually played nicely with his friend - they're at that age when they just argue constantly. Ds2 hasn't been too bad, either, his cough has eased a bit so fingers crossed for a better night too.

I'm loving this stage too, ds2 is gurgling and cooing and chatting - he's like your ds, Indith, giggles like mad when you make kissing noises then smother him in kisses [soppy ]. He also thinks me saying 'have you got a nice clean bum bums?' in a daft voice after a nappy change is hysterically funny.

Moving-wise, he loves standing up (all of mine have been able to weight bear from really young, for some reason), and nearly rolled off my bed this morning . He also tries to sit up when he's propped up on the nursing pillow but tends to over reach and ever so slowly topples forwards into a doubled over heap .

Ds1 crawled bang on 8 months, but didn't walk until 13 months whereas dd bum shuffled from 6/7 months, crawled at 8 months then walked at 10 months, so it'll be interesting to see what ds2 does. It's a toss up between how desperate he is to get involved with ds1 and dd, or whether he'll be content to sit back and let them do everything for him. Can't decide at the moment.

Coco, hope everything was okay today.

Interesting theory about reflux babies. After reading thje posts I'm pretty sure ds1 had undiagnosed reflux. He crawled at 5 months, walked at 8 months and life hasn't been the same since!

hiya all ...

gr8 news , dd1 got the all clear from her scan ! such a relief knowing shes ok. She was so good at the hosp , didnt feel scared just tired and wanted to have a nap which made it easy for the doc to do her scan !.

DS giggles alot and now constantly blowing raspberries ! He can roll over to his side but not yet to his tummy . When i put him on his tummy he can push himself up abit and likes a good look around his surroundings!

Got the tuk teat and tried it on him earlier - bit of a scream for abit then he drank 2half oz of milk - so i would say thats a good start so will keep at it

That's fab coco for both hospital and bottles!

Forgot to say before how much I love charity shops, found a really amazingly cute pirate t shirt for ds today for the princely sum of 99p.

{{hugs to eli and oli}}

Coco, that's a relief for you, great news!

Think I have thrush, as if bf wasn't still hard enough as it is

DP and I are writing down 'cute things our kids do' in a little book every night. It's really helping us be positive when we're finding 1 to 2 pretty tough at times. DP likes it when ds2 tries to suck the milk out of his veins, he always mistakes dp's arm for my breasts (I said I was well endowed!). I love seeing him watching for the zebra on his mobile because dp and I say neigh neigh and he laughs his head off! Funny, ds1 preferred the giraffe cos we say neck neck!

WB, v.glad you're feeling better!

Oh AQ, saw your addition to your other thread but ds2 woke up before I could post. Not that I've got any advice, I'm afraid, I'm too new to this bf lark. Can you get to the docs asap to get creams & drops, to try and nip it in the bud. I can empathise with how you feel about it though. I really wanted bf to work with dd, after not managing it with ds1, so when I had all the same problems again it felt 100 times worse. I was more upset about it with dd than I was with ds1. There's just so much other stuff tied up in bf, it's so much more than just 'feeding' isn't it? At the end of the day, you need to weigh up what is going to make you more unhappy; switching to formula, or putting yourself through more stress and pain by keeping going. There's no point keeping on bf if it's making the PND worse, your ds's will be better off with a happier mummy, truly.
Sorry that's not very eloquent, I'm too tired to string that many words together, I hope it makes some sense . ((AQ)) - that's easier!

Coco, Glad dd is okay, must be a weight off your mind.

Right, I'm off to bed. PLEASE send some hefty sleep vibes to ds2 if you've got a minute .

Sleeeeeeppppp Oli's LO, sleeeeepppp ......

Hope they bounce back this way too and do the job with dd2

Love reading the descriptions of gurgling, rolling, laughing small ones especially as my small one went from smiling and happy to decidedly grumpy this evening: suspect teeth this time. Tried Bonjela (which did nothing at all for dd1) and she calmed down both times.

AQ, haven't read your other thread, but re BFing...understand upset around it, as dd hasn't been able to for days on end and expressing just isn't the same . That said, agree with Oli - a happy mummy is worth gallons of breastmilk and dozens of boobs. Honest. Thanks for the ((()))s, lots back to you xx

Forgot to say, glad scan went ok and results were good, Coco!

OMG, I need to sleep so badly - here's hoping.

Congrats on the scan, coco!

AQ, so sorry that bfing isn't going well. Have you tried taking acidopholus supplements to help baby with thrush? Ds1 had it and one of our baby books mentioned it and I think you can give it crushed up to babe as well - but check me on that! I haven't seen your thread but I know you'll need some cream for your nipples as well. Ouches me just thinking about it.

Sleep vibes this way would be nice too.

As far as cute things, ds2 is all smiley, laughy, babbly and gurgly these days. He frequently rolls to his side but hasn't made it all the way over yet. He does like tummy time a bit better than ds1 did which is nice.

RIGHT!

WHERE were my sleep vibes? Eh, eh?

(Eli, you're exempted from my glares )

I need MORE vibes, do you hear? MORE!

Last night went like this:

7:30 bed
10:45 feed
11:15 sleep
12:30 feed
1:00 sleep
3:00 feed
3:45 sleep
4:55 feed
5:15 poo as ds1 wakes up having major tantrum as apparently 'not tired'. What's that about action speaking louder than words?
5:45 ds2 sleep (with dh)
6:00 ds1 left to strop in bed [bad grumpy mummy]
7:00 get up with ds1

Oh, it was such fun, I can tell you - that's actualy a [scream].

I love having kids!

Oh dear Oli you are going to hate me

But

Ds slept 7-1, drained a boob in 10 mins and went straight back down til 4.30. Then 10min feed but took another half hour to settle then up 6.40.

Just now starting to get grumpy so time for nappy change and a catnap I think! Course he has to be prsuaded about the nap!

Thinking might try to dream feed tonight, stopped doing it before as made no difference but if it could push him from 1 til 3 then I would be one happy mummy. Especially as I think at 3 h would settle better and be asleep before the birds start!

Right nappy!