********** December 2006 PART 2 **************

[castlesintheair]

Will this do?

Indith, wrt Rainbows, can you not schedule it for a day when your lectures finish 4/5ish and you are already in the area? I'm sure they would rather have Rainbows on whatever day suits you then not have it at all! (Assuming Rainbows starts at about 5/5.30 ish?).

We used to leave DS to fuss, and after about 5 mins he would fall asleep. The other night we remembered we used to do this so rather than running in we left him for a few minutes whilst we carried on getting dinner ready. Crying then screaming ensued and it took about 30 mins to calm him down after about only 2/3 minutes of crying!!!! However I often have to leave him awake in the room as if I am there he looks at me and wants to play. So I spend the first ten mins after putting him to bed upstairs tidying up so I can be easily to hand if he starts.

I think he must have had a cold upsetting his sleep for the last week. Last night - 10pm feed (dh). 3am feed. 6.50 feed. No nightmares! yay! fingers crossed last week was just him under the weather X.

very GS! Last time we tried that with ds he cried for half an hour until I gave in and cuddled him.

Fed at 12.30, 3.30 and 6.15 last night with a couple of settles between. Very pleased

very GS! Last time we tried that with ds he cried for half an hour until I gave in and cuddled him.

Fed at 12.30, 3.30 and 6.15 last night with a couple of settles between. Very pleased

Sacha- Its a thought (though not sure what I would do with ds!). Problem is I have no way of knowing exactly what my timetable will be until lectures start in october (oh so useful for childcare)

Ds is being a grizzly, grumpy little whatsit today. He has a snotty nose which probably has something to do with it.

Indith - snotty nose is what ds has had all week and sneezing too - hope your sleep doesn't suffer just when you are getting some! And oh, I forgot that of course your dp will be working so won't be at home with your ds but hopefully you'll be able to work something out, even if it has to all change at short notice to fit your timetable.
LFM, I am glad you got lots of support on that other post. I don't know much about CP but I do hope your LO gets better soon as it sounds horrid for him.
Jabber, I'm also interested in not having flat head syndrome, as I cannot control how ds sleeps, however I believe that it should clear itself up by 1year once they are sitting more in the day? Hope ds1 is improving?

LFM - sorry your MIL is such a cow

Jabber - my DD has flat head too. My HV told me not to worry as most correct themselves by about age 2 and that as she sits up more that will help. She didnt seem to concerned. Should I be?

Well, just put DD down for her nap in cot. We had about 10 mins of tears and i went in 3 times. So not too bad. Main problem was that she got a bit stressed and couldnt find her thumb. As soon as she calmed down and found her thumb she was happy and has now gone to sleep.

'just when you are getting some! ' - SLEEP that is!!!

Ladies, any ideas on this subject? Spoke to our charming nurse practictioner this morning who told me to starve DD1 for a day and go back to the surgery in 2 days for tests if it hasn't cleared up. This is contrary to other advice (ie NHS Direct!).

Thread about DD1 \link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=138&threadid=306139&stamp=070411150211}

Oh, god, I'm so crap at links!

bp - here is your link

I am a techno-numpty. Thanks, Glassy. And Oli. I really wish I hadn't phoned the surgery this morning, I only wanted to know if there was a bug going round!

Bloody hell, why, just when you think things are starting to settle and they're devloping a routine, does it all go completely tits up?

Ds2 has had a lovely day, all smiles, a 2 hour nap this morning, an hour at lunctime and half an hour on my lap mid afternoon. Started looking a bit tired at 6:30 so dh took him up to bed, no problem. He woke up half an hour ago, wouldn't settle again, tried feeding, tried just putting him back in his cot, tried cuddling and he's still screaming. Dh is with him now and the screams are coming through 2 closed doors from 2 floors up.

I DON'T GET IT, IT WAS ALL GOING SO WELL. WHAT HAPPENED?

Hi Guys

For those of you who looked at my other thread - I added a lost more posts since, you may have missed the main point which was my GP told me today that a baby who goes to our practice died from chicken pox yesterday - age 18 months

I have no idea why the GP told me (we have several docs there who we can see he was the one I was seeing for something unrelated and just happened to see a spotty DS in the pram.

Now I can't stop thinking about this poor family and I am totally paranoid about DS - although his spots do seem to be drying up now.

I knwo one of my friends has a DS age around 18mnths and I am hoping so much that it is not her baby, I have no idea what I will say to her if it is

Luring you into a false sens of securty Oli. Far to clever these little people!

Friend of min said to me today 'William didn't sound happy when I walked past your house today'

My grumpy boy has decided he is only happy when wearing just a nappy. Sometimes mum has to take her top off too. Now I love skin to skin but not as the only way to keep the peace!

Today he vomited all over himself, me and the bed. Was about an hour before bathtime so we both stripped off and went in the bath. He was happily flopped on my chest, I was finally reading the Sunday Times magazine and the little blighter pooed! So we pulled the plug out and had a shower instead

He's asleep now so here's hoping for a good night!

Being made very by a friend with the perfect 5 month old. She won't go in her cot til they go bed but she is happy as anything all evening and will merrily gurgle and catnap wherever you take her and when they go to bed will drop off in her cot and not wake up for 8 hours. Tonight they are taking their fully portable baby to the pub

Mind you she does have FIL issues. So far he has fed her unweaned baby a chocolate finger, part of an easter egg and some ice cream using a metal dessert spoon!

BP - re the runny tummy, my friends DD had this a while back - no other symptons than as you describe. It lasted no more than 5 days getting worse then better again, GP said as you diagnosed it was a bug, water, rice, pasta, toast - basically stodgy stuff that sticks to the gut. But defo plenty of fluids.

Hope your DD gets better soon.

Do medical staff not realise when they mention tests it fills us mummies with fear and dread!

LFM

Milkshake - I'm sorry, I seem to have killed your thread about the MIL

but it's awful to hear that children still die of cp

BP, Milkshake and Jabber - hope your children get better soon.

Okay, calmer now .

Margo, were you helping someone on a thread about a wedding ring? They're looking for you, if it was.

LFM, that's awful about the little boy. CP seems so innocuous, doesn't it? Glad your ds is on the mend now.

Indith, little monkeys aren't they? I had a very amusing image of you in my mind, wandering round Sainsbury's with a naked baby clutched to your naked torso, just to get your shopping done in peace . Also had a little snigger at the pooing/ vomiting epic, sorry!

Took the dcs to the park earlier and ds2 decided that it was a good time to do the poo he's been holding on to since Monday. All down his legs, up his back, then in his hair when I took his vest off. Good job it was warm but he still wasn't very impressed at a top to toe wipe down with a wet wipe on a park bench!

You know, it's stories like the one your GP told you that led me to vax ds2. I had waited longer than rec thinking I would just let him catch it but chickened out in the end (no pun intended!)

Re the flat head, ds1 had a form of misshapen head called scaphiocephaly from being breech for so long. It was shaped like a football with the pointed parts at the back and front of his head. It was so back that when you laid him down his head automatically flopped to one side or the other which of course only worsened the problem. We really had to work to get it looking normal and at one point seriously considered a helmet.

Ds2 on the other hand started developing a flat side b/c I was using rugby hold on one side and cradle hold on the other. HAd to spend a week getting him to do it the opposite way and then watch how he was held. After a couple of months I can tell a vast improvement.

Ds1 had another accident today but the consistency of his poo is improving - worry if TMI! But he is now gettingreally complacent about having poo in his pants and doens't even mention it to me I told him I won't get mad about the accidents but he can't just walk around with it in there. So I decided to have him assist more in the er, clean-up to see if that makes a difference

so "bad"

Sorry your evening went to pot, Oli, has he settled now?
Jabber, how is your ds1's tantrums now, have things settled along with the poo (IYKWIM!). Have asked dad for advice on my ds1 (he's a pediatrician). He wld be happy to walk around with squished mars bar in his pants half the day (not my dad!). Urrggggh, so sick of poo pants, cloth nappies not a patch on them!

Have taken inspriration from the 'getting tough' approach and decided that I will NOT be feeding ds2 for an hour until he falls into deep sleep. He did this for 90 mins last night (straight after 30 min feed/bath). So tonight, I stopped things when he unlatched & stuck him in bed with his dummy. He can suck that instead of me! Not a peep since, so tomorrow night he gets 30 mins tops!

How on earth do those of you with babies waking several times a night actually function the next day?? I am in awe, I know it has to be done (I had 15 months of it with ds1) but nonetheless it is soooo hard.

Thanks Oli - I've just seen it. I have been out most of today, waiting for word on one of my aunts. She had problems with her balance and was throwing up. My cousin called an ambulance at 3 am and she's been there ever since. They're scanning her to make sure it's not neurological. One of my other aunts had an brain aneurisym years ago. (Big family, my mums one of six)

My cousin is only 19 and my aunt's divorced so he has no-one to fall back on to share the worry. Poor him. My mum has gone to the hospital this evening, I'm hoping to hear some news soon.

He has, thanks AQ! Think he just didn't want to be awake but couldn't fall back to sleep. Don't know if I'm accustomed (sp?) to the broken nights or if the co sleeping makes it more bearabe but I'm not suffering too badly. Ds2 is the worst sleeper at this age than ds1 and dd but they were both ff so that may make a difference. Either that or I'm getting my comeuppance for having had 2 good sleepers already!

Poor you and your extended family, Margo. Hope the news is good. Thinking of you xx

Thanks for your kind wishes, I just spoke to my mum, my aunt is going to get scanned tomorrow - they think it's labarynthitis at the moment and doing tests to rule out the worst.

Fingers crossed.