March 2016 - I can't think of a pithy title because I'm too sleep deprived :/

[DomesticAnarchist]

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Sorry, really couldn't think of something humorous!

Urgh. Fucking horrendous night. Want to cry. He was hysterical at bedtime, pulling on and off the boob even though he was hungry - in desperation I gave him a bottle of ready made formula and he necked the lot and was asleep in seconds. Woke 2 hours later then was up and down all night til 5 when he was up for the day.

The sleep consultant was very helpful but she recommends I wait til it's cooled down a bit before I implement the plan as in this heat he might be extra thirsty and need more night feeds.

Oh no maybe. It is super hot, my girl was really unsettled too. It's supposed to cool down by the weekend, can you hang on that long?

Yes swear I think we'll have to wait though it's meant to be boiling on Saturday too so I think Sunday is the earliest we can start.

He's so grizzly today it is driving me up the wall. Nothing is making him happy! I'm not surprised, he's knackered.

Poor you maybe, the heat is really messing with their sleep. We were up at 4am this morning.

Lovely hearing about all your screechy, raspberry blowing babies. I remember DS1 doing that but J just growls. It's funny and a bit odd at the same time.

Whoever said about getting a debrief, I would definitely go for it. I had a traumatic birth with DS1 and I wish I had done it. Even now I think it would be good for me so might look into it.

Groan to having to go back to work. I've applied for 2 jobs so I've started the process. DS1 is starting school in 3 weeks so am going to enjoy every second, then get back to reality.

Oh I forgot to say, we use Lidl Toujours nappies and can't remember ever having a leak.

Thank you everyone who answered my question about a debrief, I think I will look into it. I was diagnosed with pre eclampsia at 36 weeks, I had a suspicion that I had it from about 33/34 weeks as I was so swollen and just didn't feel right, but the midwife was very laid back about it all and didn't pay attention when I told her my symptoms. I had severe pre eclampsia and after a failed induction at 37 weeks had DS by emergency c section in the middle of the night. No one showed me DS when he was born and that really bothers me. He went to SCUBU only for a couple of hours and that was because apparently it is the protocol for all babies born by crash section to go, that's what I was told, but they seemed to rush him off so quickly afterwards. I don't think he was breathing when he was born, on his notes it says he was resuscitated by bag mask valve or something which suggests that he wasn't and it took a while for him to cry, but nobody actually told me. It probably doesn't even matter now because he is here and he is absolutely fine, but then why am I still thinking about it? They took me into SCUBU to see him once I was out of recovery so I did see him, and they took DH in while I was being stitched up so he got to see him soon after he was born. It just upsets me a bit. I also dont really know why my induction failed. The midwives were not helpful, I even had to show one how to set up my magnesium infusion!! (I am a nurse in the same hospital). I don't have a clue if this will happen again, if we do have another I will have an elective c section so hopefully it will be calmer. I asked my GP what happens if I get pregnant again meaning will I be under consultant care etc, but he just said come back and see me! He has retired now though so hopefully the new one will be able to explain more!

My goodness I'm sorry, that was a huge rant but I feel better for it!

Maybe your poor DS and poor you too. It's awful when they get trapped in that cycle of being overtired and you just go round and round. Hopefully when it cools down the sleep consultants help will help!

I've opened DS bedroom window as its so hot in there but there is so much traffic and so many noisy motorbikes I might have to close it. He is fast asleep at the moment but keeps wiggling.

I can't remember who was having trouble with leaky nappies, but I do not recommend Boots own. Ever. We have had many a leak from those including a poonami all over my lap in a pretty dress at a wedding. Lucky me! We get pampers if they are on offer but tescos are pretty good.

I am so hot! Might go and climb in the fridge.

Dotty I may join you in the fridge. C was very unsettled this evening and it's absolutely because of the heat, he doesn't handle it well. He slept beautifully when we were in Ireland!

Dotty that sounds like it was a traumatic end to your pregnancy. Definitely ask for a debrief.

Thanks for all the nappy tips. I'll avoid boots, but try lidl.

DS2 was really restless last night. I think it was less the heat (though it was hot) but more the disruption in his routine (I took him to my exercise class - he slept for most of it, woke for a feed in the second half, then grumped at the end when he was being bounced by the instructor!)

It's been much cooler here today. And the storms missed us. But our weird new-build is as warm as ever now!

Thanks Dom, the more I think about it the more I think I will. Aww poor DS, it's amazing how sensitive they are to their routines. I'm tempted to take DS with me to zumba but it's so loud I worry for his ears!

Tri feel free to join me in the fridge! I'm so hot and uncomfortable I can't sleep. I think we are getting a storm here on Saturday thank goodness! DH has gone away this evening and is back on Saturday so that doesn't help, the house seems eerily big and quiet and I don't like it!

Oh dotty sounds like you definitely went through it, in your situation I'd probably try and ask too. Can do no harm.
Ds has a new fun thing to do - 4am ish poos. He's now going to bed at 8, waking 12 and 4ish. Up for day at 7. But, at the 2nd wake has always done a poo - needs changing, then spends 40 mins awake chatting to himself in his cot. This has started since we have started giving his last feed of the day as formula and is his only poo of the day, bloody nuisance!

Q we have similar, DS often sleeps through until 5/5.30am ish but he has almost always done a poo when he wakes up so I have to change him before his feed, which he hates as he's starving by that point!

It is sooo hot here. DS's room was 28 degrees last night and now it's come down to the icy temperature of 25. The storms missed us too, we had a few spots of rain, shame as I love a good storm and that would have cooled things down a bit more! We're also in a new build Dom, love the low heating bills in the winter but it gets so hot in the summer, DH wants to buy one of those portable air conditioning units! As much as I'd love one on a night like tonight, we can't justify the cost for the 2-3 unbearable nights a year, especially while I'm on mat leave. DS has woken up a few times tonight due to the heat, he's in just a vest and no sleeping bag and managed to get his legs stuck through the bars of his cot a couple of times bless him.

Anyone else finding their baby is really windy since starting weaning? DS is constantly farting away now, I guess their little digestive systems take a while to get used to food!

Dotty your birth sounds horrendous and it definitely sounds like a debrief could help you.

Me we have one of those portable air con units. DP picked it up some years ago in a cash converter type shop for £40. It's a bit of a pain to store but it is great in this weather. I slept with J in our bed with it on and him just in a nappy. His room was 31 according to the monitor so couldn't let him sleep in that. DP opted for the lounge and DS1 slept through as normal. Heat just doesn't seem to bother him.

Dotty that does sound very traumatic. Good luck with the debrief. I'm sure it will help.

Just a vest here too and she was pretty unsettled, I left her splints off too (which I felt really guilty about and will kick myself if she needs recasting at our next appointment as I know I'll blame myself, but the thick socks and plaster are just too much). Have woken up to rain and chilly air coming in through the windows, so hopefully today and tonight will be better.

We're not weaning yet me, but S is farting loads! Really loud ones too!

Swear I don't think anyone can blame you for leaving the casts off last night, it was sweltering.

Rhu that's not too bad a price, all the ones DH had been looking at are £300+! We might get one when I'm back at work and have a bit more disposable income!

I bought some strawberry and banana baby porridge for DS the other day and made it for him for breakfast just now. He didn't look impressed and I tasted it - bleugh! It was completely flavourless, just like eating bland wallpaper paste. I mashed a banana into it to make it a bit more palatable. I think I'll just give him normal porridge with fruit from now on, that was truly disgusting.

Definitely just do normal porridge me, the baby stuff is horrible! Just check the sugar and salt if it's a ready brek type. When my ds was small the health visitor said a good 'porridge' to give him was half a weetabix/oatibix with normal cows milk (if they're six months, I guess breast milk or formula before that). It was so easy, just break it up a bit, let the milk soak in, and it's a lovely mushy porridge with no cooking involved. I used to give him that with a squirt of the Ella's fruit pouches in.

Those of you breastfeeding who are starting to give formula last thing, how much do you give and do you use the ready made or the powder?

I'd like to give DS a bottle before bed when we start sleep training so I can be confident he isn't hungry. But I never have time to express any more (hopefully I will if I can get him into a decent bedtime routine!!) so I'd like to give formula. I have some aptamil ready made but not sure how much to give him? When I gave him some before he necked the lot but it seems like too much?!

Maybe-
My dd is exclusively ff. I make up 7oz of formula in each bottle. She takes between 6-7 oz. She's about 17 pounds now and 6 months and one week x

Thanks time, I'm just thinking the amounts are probably different for mostly BF babies.

How are you getting on lovely?

I'm not sure on that one but I would let him take as much as he wants.
When dd is finished she will push the bottle out with her tounge and turn her head away from it if she doesn't want it.

Not to great. My mum had dd Tuesday night until 6:30pm yesterday which was a lovely break. I really needed it. I drank coffee, read a book and watched TV all day it was lush
How are you? Hope your ds slept a bit better last night? I can't imagine how your coping on little sleep your self. Fingers crossed the weather will cool down soon and you can start to try what the sleep consultant has said.

I have been thinking of going to the "sleep support" group at my children's centre but she's normally good at night. It's just the day time so I don't know if it's worth it??

My sleep consultant told me day sleep is much harder to sort than night sleep and that she sees loads of kids who are brilliant at night and crap during the day.

How nice you got a break, you so deserve it!!!

No he slept terribly but I kicked dp into the sofa and just had DS in bed with me so he could just latch on whenever. Meant I got a bit more rest. Was hoping to do the sleep training tonight but I think it's still too warm. I hate summer!!!

Oh no.Its horrible when they need sleep . It makes them so hard to deal with doesn't it?
Dd slept 8-6:20 last night and buy some sort of miracle she has been asleep again since 8:30. All I've done different is put her in the middle of our double bed as our room has black our blinds with white noise on. It's probably a fluke but I can only but hope?

Have you started weaning yet? Or is he waking for other reasons other than hunger? Has he got any teeth yet?
Sorry 101 questions lol

I think he's waking out of habit and for the dummy, I know he's not hungry as he necked a 7oz bottle of formula before bed yesterday and then was awake and asking for boob 2 hours later

Given him some tastes of food here and there which he enjoys but not started weaning in earnest. I honestly think he's just got into the habit of waking up, he was teething badly but not any more. Either way I need to sort it as its not sustainable for me to look after him on less than 4 hours' broken sleep a night!

Fx your DD has a beautiful long nap :)

Sorry to hear your sleep is still terrible maybe. I read somewhere recently that apparently the four month sleep regression happens as their sleep cycles change/mature and whilst some babies start sleeping longer after the regression, not all babies do. A friend of mine whose son is 6 and a half months said he was a really great sleeper until the four month regression (to the point where she didn't tell other people with newborns!) but since the four month sleep regression his sleep has been terrible, he often has nights where he's up every hour. It could also be as you say that he was teething for so long that he got used to waking up/forgot how to self settle. Hope the weather eases off a bit so you can start implenting your routine.

DD2s tooth is fully cut through now (I hope). Had a bit of a fussy day yesterday but a much better night last night (slept 7.30-3 and then till 5.45) so hoping we are out of the worst of it now until the second bastard tooth comes through

me I agree with swear don't bother with baby porridge as I think it's basically cardboard from what I've heard! normal porridge will be fine. We used to make DD1 normal porridge when we ate it ourselves but actually turns out she prefers ready brek so she has that for breakfast even now at almost 3 (she also loves weetabix and has one of those as well in the morning!) and it's much easier as can just make it in the microwave. From my experience, supermarket own brand tend to have more sugar and salt in that the branded stuff e.g. ready brek/weetabix have much less salt in than tesco or co-op own brand (which is where we normally shop). I've no idea why but it's quite a significant difference.

DS only woke for a feed twice a night until about 3.5 months marmite and then it all went downhill from there. Sleep consultant told me to axe all night feeds except one so I'm dreading that in the middle of the night.

I never thought I'd be someone who would sleep train my baby or put them on a schedule as I always wanted to be baby led, feed on demand etc etc. But it's getting to the point where I feel like it's necessary for him as well as for me as he's just so grizzly and unhappy from not enough sleep.

maybe I only started this week with the formula. He has a 7:30pm feed with it. I make up from aptamil powder 7oz worth. The 1st night he took it all then was quite sick. Mon he took 6ish, Tues and last night he took just under 5. I think I'll keep making up 7oz just in case but 6 would probably be OK here. I have let him push the bottle away but kept it in my hand as after a couple of minutes he grabs it back and has another little go. He doesn't like the number 2 teats though and have had to revert back to number 1 haha.