March 2016 - I can't think of a pithy title because I'm too sleep deprived :/

[DomesticAnarchist]

New thread?
Sorry, really couldn't think of something humorous!

This happened to me too today mship, big high five!!! I got a good half an hour, it was amazing! You're right though, it will never happen again.

Had the LC out this morning - it looks like C has a tongue tie and that has caused all our problems. Apparently it's only my sheer bloodymindedness and significant oversupply that have us still boobing at nearly 20 weeks. Glad to have an answer but more than a little annoyed that it took this long. It's such a horrible thought that my little guy has had to work way harder for every single feed of his life than he should have :(

TriJo great to know but as you say, why so late. It is not like tongue tie is some exotic condition. A friend had the same, not diagnosed til after 16wk jabs despite a few people looking at him (it is posterior tie, guess that is harder to identify??).

Good work Mship and Swear on the tandem napping, you can guarantee if my two are going to do it it will be when dh is at home to make it look easy!

Tri hope now tongue tie is diagnosed it can get sorted and feeding will become easier. Grrr at it taking so long but mega hi fives to you for keeping going!

I think today is the day that we move C into 6-9 month clothes, most of her 3-6 clothes are still ok but vests are definitely looking a bit snug! Feels really odd as ds was always 3 months behind in clothes sizes.

Tri that's awful it's taken so long to diagnose but hopefully things will get easier now. Do you have a referral to get it snipped?

DS is absolutely covered in spots now, I think I take back my previous assertion that he has a mild case! My poor poxy baby. He is still in remarkably good spirits though, a bit of a crying jag yesterday afternoon but then he was tired and needed a nap. I guess it's true that the younger they are the better they cope with it.

Me The LC is referring us to the clinic at King's College Hospital. We're on the clock a bit though because they require a GA if the baby has teeth, and C is showing a lot of signs that two chompers on the top aren't too far away!

I hope you don't have to wait too long to get it seen to Tri. You've both done amazingly well to keep going for this long!

MrsElls my DS is in such a range of different clothes sizes! He is a few days away from being 5 months and most of his stuff is 3-6 but he has some vests and a t shirt in 0-3 and he could do with 6-9 sleep suits to accommodate his big feet! I find M&S stuff comes up big which is good as it's quite pricey so at least he gets good wear out of it.

Me I hope your DS has remained in good spirits today, bless him. At least you can cover his little hands up with scratch mitts when he gets itchy.

Tri I'm sorry it's taken them so long to figure out the problem for your DS. Hopefully it will get sorted out soon before there is the need for the GA.

We were going to move DS into his cot tonight but I've chickened out! I put it off because of his injections and now I don't even have an excuse. The thing is that he will be going into his own room because the cot doesn't fit into the bedroom and I don't want to let him go! Stupid I know. I'm all prepared for sleeping on the floor in there with him for ever the first few nights while he gets settled, I think it's just they are with you all that time you are pregnant and then when they are tiny. I know he will have so much more space in the cot and will be more comfortable, but I don't like the thought of him being in the room on his own it's just across the landing and we have angel camera monitor and breathing mat

Gah!! Someone please hand me a grip!!

Haha dotty we are away this weekend and had said if ds sleeps OK in the travel cot then he will be moved into the big cot in his own room when we arrive home. Night 1 and he woke twice to feed but slept until 8:40 this morning (didn't go down until late though) tonight he has again gone down into travel cot fine, I kind of wish he'd be fussy because don't want to move him but know he's also getting far too big for the moses basket!

Thanks Dotty, french, Trinpy and Me - it's reassuring to hear that this is normal and not just DS suddenly becoming a crap sleeper! Thanks also for the Wonder Weeks reminder Dotty, I used to check the app obsessively when he was tiny but kind of forgot about it. Lo and behold he is in a leap, and the app also mentions crying if I go too far away. We've definitely had more clinginess here and sometimes even DH can't comfort him, it just has to be me.

Hope your little ones are recovering Dotty and Me.

I'm also agonising over moving DS to his own room! He still wakes several times a night to feed so having him in the bednest or in our bed is nice and convenient. I'm dreading the thought of having to get up to do night feeds! But I suspect some of the feeds are more for comfort than hunger so maybe he won't wake as much if I'm not right next to him?! Ahhh, but I will miss his little warm body next to me and his smiles while I'm still half asleep in the morning. Maybe not as much as I miss a full night's sleep though...

Oh, and Tri - you must be superwoman to persevere for months with an undiagnosed TT! Hope all gets sorted soon.

I wrote a super long post yesterday and it disappeared, only just had time /patience to do it again!

So...first off amazing success mship and swear on the synchronised napping, should be an Olympic sport.

Me sorry to hear about all the spots, it was sounding like you'd get off lightly but it's good they're not too bothersome. It's also good to know that they've had a proper 'dose' of the virus as it means they're definitely immune. DS1 had it very mildly aged 9m and then got it again aged 3y so obviously had t had enough of an immune response. Every cloud eh?

Tri poor you. I get angry about the poor regard for TT diagnosis and management in the UK, and the postcode lottery. Please don't feel bad, he doesn't know any different so it's not like it's particularly hard work for him, it's just his normal. As you know we had a similar story but not such a long delay. DS was snipped at 9w and sadly his poor latch habits were pretty ingrained so although we did get an improvement I think we'd have done better had it been addressed earlier. I'm not telling you think to be doom and gloom for you, but to encourage you to INSIST on further help and support perfecting an improved latch after its snipped, it will take some re learning for both of you. I went it alone and I think a couple more sessions with the BF consultant would have helped. As you know I've still had blocked ducts / mastitis since but the constant nipple pain really improved so I really hope everything improves for you.

Q, peggy dotty we just moved the cot into our room as I don't want to kick him out yet! Totally not enough room for it, but I dont. Ind an obstacle course before bed anyway!

mrsells I had a big clothes sort yesterday too. DS2 is supposed to be our last but I somehow found myself bagging up all the small stuff and storing it...

Someone up thread had success losing weight with myfitnesspal, was it dom? Whoever it was, thanks, gave me the idea and I started doing it 3 days ago as the last 3-4kg to get back to booking weight were just not going anywhere. My, I think it's going to work...who knew there were so many calories in the DC leftovers and my evening chocolate/magnum habit?! For if myself to record things is really. Asking me think about what I eat. Plus I love scanning the barcodes. Weirdo that I am.

Thanks for the reminder about myfitnesspal magpie! I've just signed in for the first time in about 18 months. Depressingly, my very realistic goal weight of 9 stone 3 is a whole stone heavier than last time I logged in!!! Does anyone know how to add breastfeeding in on the app? Is there a setting for it or do you have to pretend it's exercise?

Glad you're getting things sorted trijo. My boy had a tongue tie and we were lucky it was picked up quite early, but the consultant decided it wasn't bad enough to snip so it was a waste of time! In my experience though, they tend to try to get stuff like this sorted quickly. My health visitor suggested we made an appointment with a private tongue tie consultant while we waited for the NHS one - if it took a while to come through we could then use the private one, and if it came through quickly we could cancel it. I think it would have been about £80. Could that be an option?

Hi all, (been lurking a lot!)

Yep, mags, I used MFP (have given up but DH is still on it). Yes, it got me down several kilos by just making me mindful of what I was eating (and reminding me to eat more protein!). I gave it up when I went back to work, but I'd learned that my normal diet (with a lot of salad added) and normal portion sizes and some sensible snacks were all ok, and that I just had to give up my beloved, enormous chocolate habit! I'm back down to roughly pre-pregnancy weight. But not shape! (There's a lot of wobble where there should be muscle still!)

For DH it's helped him make some better choices but mainly just address portion size (he was eating like a 17 year old still!).

Glad to hear you got the TT sorted Tri, but as frustrated on your behalf as the others.

I don't want to put D2S in his room while I'm still feeding him overnight. DS1 went at 8 weeks (we were really struggling). He continued to wake till he was nearly 2, and I got up and went in to him every night (sometimes many times) for all that time despite working full time. We tried sleep training, which was horrible and didn't work. (We tried formula too, which didn't work either).

So I'm happy to keep DS2 here as long as possible. I'm wondering if I can keep him in the Snuzpod longer than the recommended time too. Though I might have to look into space-saver cots and try to bodge it into cosleeping mode. I like the slide-n-boob manoeuvre!

We've got a space saver cot dom, I plan to keep S in it until at least a year if possible. I also had to move ds earlier than I wanted and spent a good year getting up and going into his room several times a night, so I have no intention of doing the same this time. S doesn't have a room anyway, and there's no way I'd put her in with ds until she stops waking up in the night.

Swear I would log it as 120 mins of cardio at 300 calories (I think I added up the total duration of feeds over 24 hours to get 120 mins).

We've managed two cot naps today! (Never normally bother trying. The second one did involve a wake and feed after the first 25 minutes. But he slept another hour+ after that!

Swear - yep, our boys will be sharing. We're struggling to work out how to fit them both in at the moment!

Same here dom, ds's room still has loads of our stuff in it! Stupid poxy newbuilds. We're hopefully moving early next year so it might not be an issue, but I was considering getting a high sleeper for the boy (almost 4 and pretty agile so think he'd cope) and either putting the cot underneath like bunk beds or moving his drawers and toys under. Could that work?

My boys will be sharing a room too. The plan is to move them in together when Ds2 is around 1 yr old but I'm dreading it! Just hoping that he'll be sleeping through by then!

Ds1 will only be 3 then so our option is toddler bed + cot crammed in together until they're big enough for bunk beds. I really like the high sleeper with cot underneath idea though and would definitely do that if I had an older child.

Dom when ds1 was a baby I took one side off his cot and pushed it up to the side of the bed. It was such a luxury because if he was having a difficult night I could just reach out and do the pat/shh thing without having to get out of bed (or open my eyes!).

Ds1 was in with us until 11mo and although it was a pain having him there for so long it did make it easier to function at work the next day!

Swear we were looking at mid-sleepers for DS1 to solve the storage issues (yep, new build!) and make room for the cot bed, but we can't really fit both in around the awkward window/radiator/door positions.

I'm now looking at bunk beds with a plan to keep DS2 in with us for as long as possible then into the bottom bunk with bed rails. That way the bunk beds can separate into two singles when we can move somewhere bigger. And we might be able to fit a wardrobe in.

Trinpy, I'm all about keeping DS2 within arms reach - it's been 5 years but I can still remember getting up with DS1 so much! DH has agreed that keeping DS2 in with us would be easier, but has also said he wants his room back. (It's not the room he's missing and frankly he's not the one who has to get up multiple times a night. Maybe I should spin it that the better rested I am the more likely he is to get lucky).

Fair play to you all having the babies in with you for so long, I do miss DS sometimes but we all sleep so much better since he's been in his own room! Difficult if you have older ones though, can't be having them constantly woken.

Poor DS is really suffering now. He has spots everywhere, including the soles of his feet, the palms of his hands, in his ears, his eyelids, inside his belly button and on his balls! Bless him. We were up virtually every hour last night, thankfully we have both had some good naps today. DS will be fine for ages and as happy as ever and then he'll suddenly flip and do his horrible pain cry and/or whimper pathetically. The worst thing is cuddling him seems to make it worse - no doubt aggravating the spots! He has been in his bouncy chair a lot as that's where he seems happiest. Everyone keeps telling me it's better to get the chicken pox out the way now while he's young but it's awful seeing him like this. magpie I really hope he doesn't get it again like your poor DS - he is covered from head to toe though so I definitely don't think it's a mild case and hopefully this will be it.

for those doing MFP, personally I have had some success doing 5:2. I am not very good at sticking to diets or calorie counting for very long so 5:2 works quite well for me as I only have to be good for a day at a time. Like dom though, I've lost my baby weight but I have not regained my shape at all - everything has just spread out 😡

Lol at magpie still storing baby clothes, I've sold all C's newborn and 0-3 months via a combination of ebay and facebook already. I did wonder if I should have kept something but I decided my mum didn't save any of my baby clothes and I'm not bothered so they all went.

Oh Me, your poor DS. DS1 had it really bad too over his 3rd birthday. He'd say 'cuddle me mummy, but don't touch me'. Just heartbreaking. I underestimated it as a mild childhood disease, but it can be horrible for them. Totally hope this is his only bout and he'll remember nothing about it. You deserve a big gin for when it's all over.

Rhu bless your DS, I imagine that's exactly what mine would be saying if he could! Another rough night - I co slept with DS in the spare room from midnight as he just would not settle in his cot and DH needed a good nights sleep for work. Trouble is we haven't done any proper co-sleeping and certainly not since DS could roll so the bed is not well set up for it - I was paranoid that DS would roll off his side in the night. I put pillows on the floor so that he would have a soft landing at least! I sleep very lightly so woke at his every move anyway (which is why co-sleeping would not work for us long term!) but still worried about it. I think we have finally reached peak spot levels - no more new ones today I don't think - so hopefully we're nearly through the worst part.

If DS hadn't got it so early I think I would have considered paying privately to vaccinate against it! Poor mite.

Magpie DH is quite insistent at the moment that he only wants one but I am storing everything in the loft too anyway ... just in case! I certainly won't be thinking about it for a while but selling it all straight away seems hasty!

Definitely think there is something up with J today. He's twice left over 2 ounces in his bottle (unheard of), he had an unsettled night (again not normal) and he just won't settle today. His last nappy smelt awful too. Poor little thing.