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February 2016 - our babies are here!

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IslaMann · 04/02/2016 12:39

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MaryEllen1 · 12/03/2016 21:21

midnight I totally get what you mean about the stingy bits when going to the toilet, I even resorted to tipping a jug of cold water on my Fanjo when I went to the wee as it stopped the stinging, was so happy when the stinging stopped Blush

DP goes back to work on Monday not sure if I'm looking forward to getting in to a routine or not as its been nice having him home as he already has a DS so was a lot more relaxed than me in the first few days as a first time mum..

NorthernChinchilla · 13/03/2016 11:34

It is lovely having an OH around for a while, if that's an option, but you'll definitely get into a solo routine.

We had a poosplosion nightmare, woke this morning and DD had gone through her onesie, through the bottom sheet and mattress protector, though thankfully there's very little on the mattress. Washing to see what can be saved has commenced...

cudbywestrangers · 13/03/2016 13:38

Hope you guys have all been enjoying a spring weekend.
Not so good here as my grandad died yesterday morning which was a shock .as i only found out he was ill on Thursday, but not totally out of the blue as he was old and frail. We were just getting ready to go and visit when the message came. The family situation isn't totally straightforward so i predict some tensions as well as the sadness Sad and i don't think the hormones and sleep deprivation are helping!

Babycud has been quite unsettled as well, particularly in the evenings (the 730 to 1230 screaming last night was not helpful!). My guess is growth spurt and gas but possibly a bit of reflux too. Might try to pick up some infacol later to see if that helps...

That is some poo northern hope you can salvage the matress at least... i'm sure you already know but sunlight is pretty good for those stains. And too late now but i recently learned that vests with envelope necks can be pulled down instead of over the head which does make things easier.

Good luck going solo tomorrow mary am sure you will be fine and soon get into a nice routine

Hope the next scan goes well isla and you're recovering midnight apologies to anyone i've missed... going to attempt to put babycud down and have some lunch!

MaisieDotes · 13/03/2016 20:29

Sorry to hear about your grandad cud Flowers

cudbywestrangers · 13/03/2016 20:48

Thanks maisie

Newmamatobe · 13/03/2016 21:44

Phew I'm in an insane state of sleep deprivation where things have started to have trails in my vision!!

Newborns. Are. Hard. Work!!

Anyone else suffering with infections post birth? I was readmitted to hospital one week following DD birth and now have another one - saps all my energy, horrid pains along my sides and dizzy spells...

Feeling a bit sorry for myself and teary with hormones too...

"This too shall pass"

People telling me "oh that's all normal" doesn't make me feel any better grrrr!!

HandbagFan · 14/03/2016 10:11

Hello everyone, hope it's all going well!

Cud sorry to hear your news. I hope you're coping ok Flowers

Newmamatobe yes newborns are hard work! I keep telling myself that it will get easier once we're into the swing of things!

Good luck to all those going solo this week for the first time. I survived last week (just) and am starting week two. DH has just gone straight back into things and is actually busier than usual because he was out for two weeks. I can't imagine being back at work myself but quite envious he comes home to a clean, fed baby who's fairly calm while I spend the day going from crisis to crisis! Envy

DS seems to be colicky after being perfect for his first couple of weeks. It's really distressing seeing him so unhappy and it's usually in the evenings for a few hours and feels like it's never going to end. We bought some infacol yesterday and he was better than the evening before, but I've read it's only as effective as a placebo. I'm not a fan of the Tommee Tippee bottles we have - tests collapsing and air going in - so I've ordered Dr Brown's starter kit after reading some good reviews.

We've managed to go out a few times - still can't drive. Went for lunch on Thursday and Friday with baby and he's been for visits to both sets of grandparents. As long as we don't need to be out before lunchtime we're OK!

How do people get out for morning clubs and clinics? It's 10.10 and I'm in my pjs watching Jeremy Kyle with 20 mins to my next pump debating getting dressed! How do people do this with other children???

Troika · 14/03/2016 12:48

Grr wrote a long post then lost it!

Sorry to hear your news cud Flowers

Handbag luckily my older dc are old enough to get themselves ready (albeit with some nagging) so I just make sure they're up and issue instructions! I make their lunches and shower at night when dp is around so even if dd doesn't nap in the morning I can get myself ready with just a few mins of her crying wanting to be held. Then I usually bf her whilst eating my breakfast. Still usually a mad rush to get into the car to be at school on time though.

We were lucky yesterday- one friend came for lunch (which she brought with her) then some others turned up as I was dishing up dinner and insisted that we got on and ate whilst they held the baby Star

Felt like I had quite a productive day really and I think dp being home made all the difference. If I could turn back time I'd insist on him having paternity leave, he only had the day dd was born off and works 11 hour/day 6 day weeks.

Dd is also very windy and has started having crying spells -usually when she needs a poo/fart/burp. I think my fast let down is the major cause as can hear her swallowing a lot of air, don't really know what to do as she's fussy which position she feeds in meaning I can't lean back or lie down to feed.

Hope everyone is ok, Mawsy are you there?

NorthernChinchilla · 14/03/2016 16:23

Oh cud, that sounds like the last thing you need re the family on top of grief over your Grandad. So sorry to hear the news. Vent on here ref family tensions if it helps!

And newmama, that sounds really tough. Could your DP take baby in the evening, even if it's just 9-11.30 or something, just to let you get a block of sleep?
And it's a vicious circle- if you're tired and run down, you're more prone to infections, and then you'll feel even worse with those Flowers

I had exactly the same with DS handbag, fine for first few weeks then off we went with being unsettled in the evening. It'll be no comfort that it's classic in terms of age and that sort of sub-colic behaviour, as it is so so shot to go through. DS only went on for a few weeks, if that is any comfort instead!

Did first KIT day today, though work came to me and it was only a couple of hours. DD was exceptionally obliging and fell asleep just beforehand.
Have been suffering a bit from sort of pre-mastitis; as she feeds heavily in the evening, then very little in the night, I'm waking up really engorged. This morning it was massively painful on the underside of my right boob, so expressed and have been taking painkillers. Fingers crossed I seem to have got it just in time....

NorthernChinchilla · 14/03/2016 16:25

And that should be 'shit', not shot...anyone else got a prudish phone, mine even changes sex into sec....Confused

clumsypots · 14/03/2016 21:56

cud sorry to hear about your grandad Flowers

handbag the school run is horrific! I just want to sleep not drive to school.

northern I have to go to work on Thursday Angry my parents are having ds so I can go, I don't want to! My phone is a prude too it likes to say duck a lot.

clarabellski · 14/03/2016 22:09

Hi all just checking in. Have had interesting start to motherhood but will post properly from laptop soon as really bad at using phone to write!

clarabellski · 14/03/2016 22:16

Ps does anyone have an ergo baby carrier and if so which one? I have a stretchy wrap but would like something more structured to save my back. Looks like you can use it for newborn then switch it to back carrier mode when they are older....

NorthernChinchilla · 15/03/2016 03:45

I take it that's 'interesting' in the Chinese saying/curse way clara? No help on carriers, moby wrap and Bjorn here.

DD slept all through yesterday and then decided to treat us to a late evening of fussing, the 'I want food, I WANT food, I WANT FOOD and I'm going to yell at your boobs and arch my back and not latch on just to show it' baby idiocy.
She's found a hold she has likes- me lying back, her across my body and face-planted on boob, but this is not conductive to a good night's kip or clearing the blocked duct, but hey ho...

Troika · 15/03/2016 06:35

Hanging today. Introduced a dummy yesterday which helped with the crying spells. However it didn't help at all with the sleeping in own bed thing and dd was on me from just before midnight til 4.40, when she went back in her crib til 5.20. I do get some sleep with her on my chest but it's not proper sleep. I long for a night lying down. Under the covers. I can't really complain though, she rarely cries at night and only feeds twice, occasionally three times which is pretty good for a not quite three week old. I could be alternately feeding and pacing the floor all night like I was with ds.

She's now lying on her change mat gurgling and kicking away whilst I feel like poop next to her.

Can't believe some of you have KIT days already.

On a positive note dp is feeling more confident about breastfeeding (and my boobs actually working) after I went for a quick express yesterday evening and returned after 5 minutes with 160ml. I think he was worried that dds 10 min or less feeds meant there wasn't much milk but now he believes me that it just comes out fast.

Clara looking forward to hearing about your interesting start...

Newmama I hope the infection is clearing up, that can't be helping with the exhaustion.

Isla fingers crossed for the next scan.

How long has everyone's bleeding lasted for? Keep thinking mine is stopping then get a bit more.

Few people seem to have dropped off posting, hope they're ok and it's just busy life stopping them. Do people use the fb group more? I'm not on it.

Troika · 15/03/2016 06:39

Clara I have a wrap (or three Blush) and a baby hawk. Not so keen on the babyhawk for tinies but that's partly because I am very slight so it's hard to get it snug enough-carrier is wider than I am iyswim. Loved it on my back for older babies though.

Troika · 15/03/2016 06:41

Northern that's a perfect description of dd's fussing. She usually does it in public too which leaves me with boob out looking like I'm trying to force her on. Sigh.

NorthernChinchilla · 15/03/2016 10:59

It's sooo annoying isn't it?! In my head I'm yelling 'but you're hungry, take the damn boob, stop headbutting it!!' And yep on the looking like you're trying to force it...

I'm not on the fb group either, I avoid social media because of work.

HandbagFan · 15/03/2016 11:38

Troika that's impressive pumping! I do 15 mins 7/8 times a day and a good pump gets c.70mls from both boobs. Righty is definitely the best but DS will only really feed from lefty (with a nipple shield). There was a great thread last night I think on AIBU about shit boobs - there's usually one whilst pumping that gives very little. Found it very reassuring!

I'm not on the FB group either - prefer the anonymity of MN...

Troika · 15/03/2016 13:34

Handbag when I was pumping after each feed I was only getting small amounts. Dd was fussing and didn't feed properly yesterday afternoon and I was leaking everywhere so think that's why I got so much

Troika · 15/03/2016 13:35

Glad I'm not the only one not in the fb group Smile

purplepineapples · 15/03/2016 13:38

Hey everyone. I was on the conception thread then the antenatal thread at the very start of my pregnancy (both under a diff username) and then an overdue thread

DS is 3 wks old today and I have another one who's 3yo and currently toilet training so I'm having FUN just now! Grin Oh and did I mention I have the flu??? Magic.

DP went back to work yesterday which was rubbish. I've loved having him here. Plus he did every single nightshift with the baby to let me recover so i was thrown into the deep end on Sunday night! Smile I'm enjoying the peace and quiet just now while the baby sleeps and DS1 is at nursery! I should really sleep too. I'm floored at the moment with this flu Sad

It's so nice to have others to share these experiences with!

Does anyone else's baby make THE weirdest noises when sleeping?!

cudbywestrangers · 15/03/2016 14:47

Thanks all! I'm ok and will just keep fingers crossed that previous family divides don't resurface... or if they do i can just keep out of it!

Hi purple i have a nearly 3 year old ds too although not toilet training at the mo- good luck.

Hope poorly people feel better soon, non posting people are ok, tired people get some rest and look forward to hearing about the 'interesting' times.

The idiocy around feeding is exactly what we get: hungry, hungry, hungry, won't feed nicely for ages, when finally feeds overdoes is then lots of gas and sick. Then repeat! Wonder when they get less silly...

clarabellski · 15/03/2016 15:43

Hi guys

This is likely to end up being an essay - don't feel the need to read but I thought writing it down would be helpful for me (and hopefully anyone else reading that is experiencing anything similar). There are a couple of bits that are a bit uncomfortable to read and I hope I don't upset anyone.

So I ended up being induced at 42 weeks. They took me in on the Sunday and gave me the pessary that afternoon. On examination at 10pm I was 3cm and favourable for breaking waters. However, the labour suite was rammed, so they suggested I go to sleep for the night and they'd take me down in the morning. Sleep? Haha, not on a ward with noisy newborns and a girl in the bed next to me in early labour pain. The next day, they didn't take me down to the labour suite until 4pm. Whilst waiting, I took a bit of a funny turn (I've had it before, usually due to too much alcohol, or not eating enought), where my tongue felt weird in my mouth, I felt faint and sick and a bit 'out of it'. I went for some fresh air and dismissed it.

We went down to the labour suite at 4pm and they broke my waters around 5pm. They left me for an hour to see if that would kick start things - nada. So they started me on the syntocin drip. At this point, I was tired and bored, but otherwise no complaints. The drip kicked in after an hour or so, then it was full steam ahead on contractions. I contracted for what I think a couple of hours or so, but quickly proceeded to what I presume was transition (apparently kept complaining about needing a jobby NOW). Vague memory of asking for them to help me with the pain, at which point I was introduced to the gas and air. I have very hazy memories of the birth after this point. I can only describe it as the real me leaving my body behind and going to hide somewhere, leaving a shell to continue with the birth. The contractions were nothing compared to that primal and terrifying urge to push. If I felt anything, it was a complete loss of control. My husband says they were prepping me for forceps delivery due to drop in baby's heartbeat, but I managed to push him out at 11.15pm before consultant arrived to do this, which I do recall and can only describe as being disemboweled).

Apparently we were in the delivery room for a further 4 hours or so whilst they tried to identify source of some bleeding (I lost just under 2 pints but not enough to require a transfusion, just a course of iron tablets), and stitching up an episiotomy and some labial tearing. When he was born they put the wee guy up on to me, but because of the unidentified bleeding they took him off me pretty quickly and gave him to my husband for skin to skin. Finally around 4am they attempted some skin to skin with me but we didn't manage a feed (he rooted but no attachment).

Over the next day (Tuesday), I sat in the ward feeling that I still hadn't come back into myself after the birth (when I said above I feel like I had left my body, I meant it, and I felt that I hadn't come back into it). When I looked in the mirror I couldn't see 'me'.

I continued to try to feed over the next 2 days in the hospital. It wasn't going well (attachment being the biggest issue) and I was expressing colostrum by hand and pump as well. I didn't sleep at any point in the hospital (not for lack of trying but either the wee man was trying to feed or it was too noisy in the ward).

We got discharged on the Thursday morning. I tried to get some sleep at some point during the day on Thursday but I had another funny turn (feeling of dread/tongue large in mouth) and couldn't do it. Whilst trying to feed, I also started fixating on some completely irrelevant stuff (need to buy toothpaste, wanting to put an old rocking chair onto freecycle to get rid of it). During Thursday night I called the midwife helpline as I was concerned that the wee man wasn't attaching properly and so wasn't getting fed.

On the Friday morning the midwife arrived and weighed him and his weight had dropped to 13% below birthweight, so they referred us up to pediatrics at the hospital (having only just been discharged the day before!) and they gave us a plan to 'top up' his breastmilk with formula to get him back to birthweight. I was still fixating on other irrelevant things rather than our son's dehydration. I made sure I picked up the bloody toothpaste whilst making emergency trip for formula milk on the way home from hospital!

Back home on the Friday evening, my mum visited and she saw that I was shaking while trying to feed the wee man and my hands were completely white and freezing (I wasn't aware of this). My husband and I had worked out a wee plan for husband to take over for the formula top up so I could snatch some sleep until the next breastfeed, and I attempted to do so again (at this point I hadn't slept for 6 days). I lay there and started getting the dread feelings again, and the shaking got worse so that I couldn't stop it. I started having really frightening thoughts (not suicidal/homicidal exactly, but picturing what it would be like to crash car on the motorway with me and the wee man in it) and began hyperventilating. I didn't have a clue what was happening to me and I was torn between the feelings of 'I need to tell my husband about this right now and get some help' and 'oh my god, if I tell him, they'll take my baby away from me'. Thankfully the first feeling was stronger, and I went through to the other room where my husband and baby were feeding and basically broke down in front of him. He calmed me down and got me to call triage, and they told us to get ourselves back up to the hospital straight away.

I was admitted to the maternity ward (private room!) for a few more days, given sleeping pills and a course of anti-anxiety medication to get me back to myself, and we made the decision to abandon breastfeeding (we could have looked at pumping but priority for us all was to get me healthy so I could look after the wee man properly - my birth plan was 'health baby, healthy mother please').

Since getting home from hospital from the second time, I've had loads of support from my husband mum and mum in law with household stuff, so that I can concentrate on getting my strength up and bonding with my wee boy (in that first week, I was in such a state that he was almost an afterthought in my mind). Formula feeding is going well (other than being a phaff making the stuff up!) - he's a wee guzzler feeding 4-5oz around 7/8 times a day and he weighed 8lb8oz at his last check up on Friday (he was 7lb6oz at birth!). It is a shame that I gave up on breastfeeding, but it was the right decision for us in the circumstances.

I'm getting follow up support from the perinatal psych team in the community to monitor my progress and check that what happened to me was a 'one off' triggered by my reaction to the birth/sleep deprivation.

Looking back (it was only a couple of weeks ago but seems like months), I feel like we essentially lost that first week, and it was in coming out of hospital for the second time that our parenting journey really started. Throughtout the whole experience my husband has been amazing. He saw his wife go from normal (whatever that is) to completely broken down in a space of a few days, but he has helped me build myself back up again. I can look in the mirror now and see me again (albeit, as a tired mother now), which is a huge relief.

I've simplified a lot of what happened otherwise this would the longest post ever put on mumsnet, but above gives the gist of it. On the face of it, you could have just said 'oh she has the baby blues', but it most certainly wasn't!

Phew! That really helped me to type this out! Well done if you've read this far! And I managed to do it with the wee guy konked out in his sling on my chest (love love love him xxx).

I'll need to read back on the thread properly to see how you are all getting on. I hope everyone is as well as can be with newborn Flowers

clumsypots · 15/03/2016 19:15

clara sending lots of Flowers your way that sounds horrific, glad you are feeling better now though.

Hi purple

My milk supply has dropped significantly today, DS fed for an hour this evening and was still screaming for food after. Feeling very stressed for past 2 days so think that might be why, anyone got any ideas how to boost supply so I can feed him? DH is giving formula to him tonight.