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June 2013: Here come the terrible twos!

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HungryHorace · 18/05/2015 17:26

New thread. :-)

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SunnyL · 20/07/2015 15:40

My ratbag goes bed better for babysitters than she does for me Angry

Sunbeam18 · 20/07/2015 16:19

Mmm, interesting! Worth a try!

HungryHorace · 20/07/2015 17:08

We've started the transition to the single bed today...DH put her into her cot bed for her nap with the side off. When he went to wake her she was all snuggled under the duvet with her cuddly mouse in the single bed (with her new owl bedding).

The transition can't be that easy, but there's no going back now!

We get babysitting from DH's mum and she'd do more if we asked, but we don't because we can't be arsed going out at night anyway right now!

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BeanCalledPickle · 20/07/2015 17:48

Oh yeah so does mine. To the point that I once got Sandie round to sit because I wanted her teeth cleaned properly one night that weekSmile

PeekABooPinky101 · 20/07/2015 20:05

I have just managed to get dd to move on from peppa pig. The same three DVDs became quite well known, to the point someone asked how many were left and I could name the episodes....Blush
Of course something has had to replace peppa.... That would be minions. Despicable me is currently flavour of the fortnight, and anything yellow is greeted with a very loud 'minon' from her. That's dvd may be put into hiding with whispers frozen. No idea where that 'safe place' is....

I'm very lucky with my parents being so close and helping out so much. Even though their health isn't great they do so much. And in two weeks time I am very lucky that they are having dd for two nights which allows me to go away dd free. Guilt presents will be purchased I'm sure!

AlohaMama · 21/07/2015 18:59

Arrrrrrrgh. 2 year olds are exhausting. This witching hour we've had pulling off nappy and peeing on floor, refusing to put on clothes, 3 trips to cot and back because she refused to sit on her chair for dinner (instead trying to climb on to table), hitting me because she didn't want me to clean her teeth, kicking me because she didn't want me to put on her nappy. This is in addition to the usual full on tantrums every time we get in/out of the car seat, cups thrown on floor because she wants her brothers, drinks poured on floor just because, cutlery thrown on floor just because, etc etc. Please let this get easier. To top it all off, she's got a random rash, and we've given her antihistamine - but she defies the "this medicine causes drowsiness" warning on the side of the bottle, if anything she gets even more hyper.

rant over.

PeekABooPinky101 · 21/07/2015 20:17

Ah Aloha, sending chocolate, or any other remedy that helps!
They really do defy all logic at times don't they. Hope tomorrow is better

SunnyL · 21/07/2015 20:58

I'll admit we bribed the child with 2 ice creams today when she woke too early from her nap and was a violent little horror.

They were mini milks though so surely it was just frozen calcium I was giving her? Angry

Mrs81 · 21/07/2015 22:40

Def just frozen calcium Sunny.

DS won't eat ice cream yet Pity. It could be handy. In fact, neither will he touch sausages, most cake, potato (inc chips), baked beans, and fish fingers fell out of favour too. He could probably be bribed with oatcakes and weetabix though Hmm He clearly hasn't read the toddler rule book.

HungryHorace · 22/07/2015 06:20

Chocolate buttons are the ultimate bribe here. She does eat ice cream but not offer as she's still mildly lactose intolerant so it bungs her up for a few days.

But yes, 2 year olds can be right royal pains in the arse quite frankly!

The transition to a single bed is going ok. She is given the choice of which bed (cot bed with side off or 'owl' bed (that's the bedding as she loves them!) and chooses the owl bed mostly. She used to cry out in her sleep loads in the cot bed with both sides. She's quiet now. So she must've been hating it. :-(

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AlohaMama · 22/07/2015 08:52

Hmm maybe I should go in for more bribery, though olives would be the ultimate for her. It has occured to me that I need a stash of olives in the car to get her into her car seat...

Raeside · 22/07/2015 09:35

Oh Aloha sounds a nightmare of a day - they happen and they're so shitty.....but like you I don't think I'm making good enough use of bribes! I mean, I say 'come sit in Jo-Jo's car and you have the yellow taxi and the truck' and that works, or 'do you want to go sit on the step?!' which sometimes works. Until he says yes and goes to put himself on the step which renders me utterly pointless and powerless.

Reassuring there are others out there whose kids don't like ice cream. I bloody LOVE the stuff and Joe won't have a bar of it. He wants fruit or 'nacks' (snacks, preferably coming in a packet).

Ah which brings me on to interesting things - cause he was NICU baby we've had regular developmental checks at the hospital since discharge. Yesterday was his final 2yr old check and took nearly 90 mins of testing with the Paediatric Consultant. I have to say it was bloody hard sitting in that room with them and not burst out with 'HE CAN DO THAT HE KNOWS THAT!' every time he took a while to get something. Jeez.

Anyway I'm not sure if your kids are the same but J has some of his 'own' words for stuff - like wawa for yoghurt - and doesn't name a dog or cat or cow but does give their sound when he points to them, even though he knows what their proper name is. The paed consultant said his comprehension was 'sophisticated' but his language was 'immature'. Jeez. She asked him if he was a boy or a girl and I had to butt in and say, 'well, we've never actually talked to him about that, other than saying good boy type things'. She said now is a really crucial stage in development of their language pathways and so they need to lock in certain learnings around language and identity (!!) so we need to stop saying 'choo choo' when we mean train, and when we read books with him not point at things and say, 'what's that?' but rather say, 'what can you see?'. Shitenhousen. I'm taking it all with a grain of salt cause he's clearly not delayed as such but she said if his scores add up on the low end for spoken language then she'll refer him on.

I guess I consider any further referral a bonus, really, but he speaks the same as, and better than some of, his mates of the same age. It seems a bit OTT to be slamming home the boy:girl stuff, no? I think we'll stop using his words for things, even if he continues with them, and see how that goes for now.

Lord.

PeekABooPinky101 · 22/07/2015 09:57

raeside - just asked dd if she was a boy or girl she replied 'walk' ,... Might need to work on that!

Dd definitely has her own words for things. And makes sounds for animals etc but knows the correct names. I just try repeating the correct name if she does the sound, but not always, and not overly worried. I figured that was normal Blush
Prime example is our cat is constantly called meow, she knows cat, she knows her actual name. She calls the neighbours cat by its name, mums dog and the neighbours dog by their name, but our cat, who she sees a million times a day - meow!

Bribes are hit and miss here. Get her dolly/selected favourite toy of the day to do what you want her to do and it's normally successful. Asking Olaf to walk nicely/hold mummies hand/wee wee on the potty/using our quiet voice does attract some odd looks but dd then happily joins in! Her dinosaurs are possibly the least stompy things out there, they love to tippy toe walk Wink

Raeside · 22/07/2015 10:07

Pink Same here with the dog's name - he won't even try to say her name even though he knows what it is. Weird, huh!

PeekABooPinky101 · 22/07/2015 10:29

Totally bizarre. She even makes the sucky sound that everyone does to attract the cats! But ours I fear will forever be meow. Of course this gives the cat more reason to look indigent towards the small child that likes to lick her.

SunnyL · 22/07/2015 14:46

Whaaaat? They're all called by the noises they make in this house. My favourites are the baby baas (you can tell we live in the country). No fecking way I'm talking her out of that - its way too cute.

BeanCalledPickle · 22/07/2015 16:35

See this is exactly why I'm avoiding the two year check etc. Her speech is fine. I see her at nursery with kids of the same age and their language is all fine. You don't often encounter adults who say meow instead of cat. As long as you talk to them and they make the occasional sentence in reply then they are doing all they should for this age. They are all different and develop at their own pace. Polly can jump really high but has never said her own name. Her friend Claudia can't jump but can name all her friends. Neither of us are bothered!

Raeside · 22/07/2015 16:46

I feel the same 24hrs later....but at the time it was a bit argh...and J's nursery ask for details bout the 2-yr check, and his was part of the whole NICU hoo-ha do trickier to avoid.

Either way I'm not in that much of a hurry to get him to say yoghurt, or cow, or train. Wawa and moo and choo-choo are much nicer!

cuphat · 22/07/2015 18:01

Yep, enjoy it while it lasts. I've said before but I'm a bit disappointed that DD doesn't use baby language any more (and even then it was only a few words).

DD had an 18 month check but there's been no mention of a two year check. She'd be fine; we have no concerns. Unless she didn't like the HV; if she doesn't like someone then she won't talk to them! We were lucky at her 18 month check as it was chance that we got the HV that she likes (queue system at the clinic).

She asked to go on the toilet again today. Didn't do anything, but it's a start that she's interested again.

BeanCalledPickle · 22/07/2015 18:14

We have compromised. Polly calls it a choo choo train and a woof woof dog.

BeanCalledPickle · 22/07/2015 18:16

Cup I suggest you buy potty training for girls. It has a very nice gentle approach where you literally try an hour at a time. Much less harsh than the take a month off work and don't leave the house approach.

AlohaMama · 22/07/2015 18:22

oh well rae if that is the standard they are expecting in our 2 yos then we're all failing as mothers!!

Raeside · 22/07/2015 19:25

Aloha I definitely am! But I picked him up from childminder today and he's using 3 and 4-word sentences pretty much all the time so I'm sticking two fingers up at the (admittedly lovely) paediatrician. For now. If we are in the same boat in six months then I'll review the 2-finger situation.

Mrs81 · 22/07/2015 19:33

Raeside - that check sounds quite ridiculous! Of course toddlers use odd words for things. And of course they grow out of it. I was lamenting at the weekend that ds is starting to try and pronounce octopus correctly, rather than oc-na-na. It's not an every day word in our house by any stretch, it only crops up in one of his books. But he still figures it out. But I quite like his version Grin

As for knowing his sex?! He knows his name, but doesn't often say it as it's tricky for him to pronounce.

We generally call things by their correct names (though it's easy to get caught up in his language) and generally don't correct him. Little by little his vocab is improving. We are not remotely worried.

Quite glad we don't seem to get hv checks round here!

cuphat · 22/07/2015 21:46

Thanks bean, do you know who it's by or have a link? I can't seem to find it.

I've never known an adult who can't talk properly (obviously excluding those with disabilities). I think that they worry too much about milestones; they all develop at different rates for different things. They're still so young!

DD knows she's a girl but she sometimes gets confused when you ask her about other people.