September 2014 Babies leave the newborn stage behind. Thread 2

[SeptemberBabies]

New thread because our initial thread is about to max out.

For babies born around September 2014 - or just before for early arrivals and just after for late arrivals.

team it's me that is talking about moving ds into his own room. he is hitting the sides of his crib, and is now easily disturbed because he is nosey....! our room also too small for cot.

sorry team can't see the link what is it?

Ella it can effect ff babies as it's a developmental thing not a feed thing, if that makes sense! However, my first did exactly as yours has and was sleeping 7-6 from 6 weeks old but didn't regress at 4 months so there is hope for you.
My DS on the other hand seems to be being more 'normal' although is sleeping 7-6 now at 13 weeks but I'm not banking on it staying that way!

Oh and for those thinking of moving their babies into their own rooms. The 6 month thing is a guideline like all the other lovely guidelines they like to throw our way these days.
I'm not invalidating it but DD moved out of our room at 2 weeks old as she was so noisy none of us were sleeping well. DS moved out at 4 weeks because he was too big for his basket.
Both slept better in their own room and we can still hear when DS needs us as he's just the other side of the wall.
Of all my parent friends more have moved their babies out long before the 6 months then have kept them in.
I guess I'm saying make the decision that works for you and your family and don't stress about it.

team I have the snuza go, which is the same except it doesn't vibrate first before the alarm goes off. I've had no problems with it. I thought it was making his nappy leak as he sleeps on his side but that was solved with a bigger nappy.

I also use the angelcare sensor mat cos i'm a paranoid ftm as i bought this first but bought the snuza when he was sleeping in his bouncy chair due to his reflux.

Holls- if you google snuza you'll see it. There are two versions, but essentially it is a tiny monitor that attaches to the baby's nappy and detects movement. I had asked my hv about the angelcare mats, but she said that if baby moves a lot in their sleep they can move off the mat. This solves that problem!

Talked to DH, and we decided that after the weekend (lots going on at the weekend) we are going to move her into her own room, with the snuza, and try the settle and leave method. It seems less harsh than controlled crying, which I don't think I could do. Fingers crossed it works out!

ah! we have an angelcare - got it this week and I really like it but b doesn't really move in his sleep at the moment. snuza sounds ace.

ella you threw me a moment of hope re ff babies and sleep regression

b did 9.20-5.30am and 6-7.20yesterday and last night 7-3.45 and 4-6.50 today. I am.hoping it's not just the jabs but I suspect it is!!!!

Team I hope you get some sleep soon. Sleep deprivation is bloody hard.

Jessica has her jabs later. Am dreading it. She was really unsettled for about a week after last time. Am hoping that even if she is a bit grouchy afterwards that she's better by Christmas. Sigh.

P.S. We put Jessica in her own room when she was about 2 months old. Both her and me have slept better since. I was waking up at every sigh / grunt beforehand and was severely sleep deprived. What I would say is that official advice about sleeping arrangements completely ignores the risks of sleep deprivation, and that sometimes I think the risks from this outweigh the (very small) increased risks from not having baby in your room. So for example prior to putting Jessica in her own room there was one occasion during a night feed that I fell asleep with Jessica in my arms and nearly dropped her on the floor, and a couple of occasions when I was driving whilst tired where there were a couple of near-misses which were from me losing concentration. That's without even looking at the impact that sleep deprivation was having on my mental health and on my experience of motherhood / bonding with Jessica (and it was definitely negatively effecting both). Ultimately it's a judgement call and you have to weigh up the risks.

kitkat b reacted pretty badly to first set of jabs but he has been better this time. Good luck!

Thanks kitkat. That's really kind and reassuring!

DD was definitely quicker to bounce back from her second lot of jabs, and wasn't quite as whingy.

Hello all

team We have the angel care and Eli is a shuffler and moves off of it and it still works! We got it as he sleeps on his tummy and I was worried!

Eli was sleeping through the night around 3-4 times a week so he is more than capable of doing it but he always falls asleep on us. Has never self settled and we are going to try that tonight! I am not sure if he is to young he is 18 weeks but 12 weeks adjusted!

Eli is in a mix of 0-3 and 3-6.

we are in a selection of 3-6, 6-9 and an asda 9-12!!!!!!!

Thanks for reassurance re rooms :-)

hope jabs have gone ok. after dreadful poo yesterday today was no poo day. which means tomorrow's offering will be doubly horrific.

sorry also meant to say...settling I do bath then bottle. halfway througj bottle 2 stories then finish bottle and when drowsy into crib ewan the dream sheep music and white noise on and another story.

Em very often gets drowsy or even falls asleep with her night bottle but then I have to wind her and she wakes again! Any ideas

DS had his appointment with paediatric doctor today about his reflux. She agrees that he probably has an allergy to cows milk protein though they don't test for it so don't know for sure. She recommended weaning at 20-22 weeks so slightly early, but gettng referred to dietician so will see what they say. He had switched from ranitidine to omeprazole but she said to use both. I have dairy free formula incase i ever need it.

Well self settling plan has gone out the window he is napping on me right now!

Glad you managed to get some answers acorn. Hope the docs advice helps your DS.

Well jabs are done. I'm hoping she follows on from some of your little one's leads and is less grumpy this time round. I want a happy baby for Christmas. Was a nightmare trip out though. Jessica pooed herself in the waiting room to the extent it overflowed her nappy just before we got called in. Then we got called in and nurse had to do jabs whilst avoiding the poo. She was now obviously upset from jabs and covered in poo. Decided that as I was only a 2 min drive from home that it would be easier to go home and deal with the poonami there rather than on the floor of the patients toilet. So we went back out into awful wind and rain to get back to the car - Jessica was crying. Got her in car and went to get in the drivers seat when the wind caught my car door out of hand and it flew out of my hand smashing the wing-mirror off the car parked next to me. Jessica still crying in the back. Flustered I try to find some scrap paper to write my details on. Then friend texted me to say a close relative of hers had died. I was like 'ahhh, I don't know what to deal with first'! I'd only been out the house about 30-45 mins! Was a nightmare!

Oh kitkat what a morning!

Reading worked tonight for all of ten mins. I was so pleased with myself at first as well. 6.30 bath, asleep by 7.15. DH away for the night. It was going so well. Then 7.30 screaming started. Screaming with dummy in?? Not hungry, clean nappy, cuddles, shushing, dummy...I was all out of ideas. Just laid there feeling sorry for myself. Then he just went to sleep. I don't get it.

Oh honey I have the same with Jessica sometimes (I.E, not knowing why she's crying). They are a law onto themselves sometimes!

It's been one of those weeks to be honest here. Had to get emergency plumber out as well this week to fix leaking pipe which has flooded our bedroom and coming through ceiling into lounge below. And DH is having a back operation in a couple of weeks which I'm starting to really stress about, but that's a long story! Lol!

Oh Kitkat what a day you had... Somebody could use what happened to you in a movie ... :)

I am distressed here, ds has refused to breast feed tonight and I haven't got a clue why; this has never happened to us - he is normally keen on breastfeeding ... But tonight he would just start to cry as soon as I Put him on breast , but he was clearly hungry so crying loader then... Dh has suggested to try bottle of expressed milk to which I said why , what is the difference??!! I only had a 60ml bottle and for a big baby that's next to nothing but I tried and he took it!!! mehhhh ... What is happening? He as asleep now and I am just shocked a bit... Any one else had that experience?

Acron why is that? Did Ranitidine not work?
I am interested cause I have a problem here, ds has reflux and is on Gaviscon; he was tested for cow's milk allergy and hasn't got it

Last time we were at dr reviewing the reflux they said it is up to us if we want ranitidine or not; as the referencing to specialist took some time and we were unsure we said yes and got the prescription but never started using ranitidine.

I guess I have to explain more clearly: he got better during the period we were waiting for referral and I felt it is more like laundry issue and constant feeding issue I am dealing with as ds was not too bothered by constant bringing up milk... So decided ranitidine will remain in the box

But in the last couple of weeks ds seems uncomfortable again with reflux; arching back, crying, etc- I talked to his gp but he said if he was better before this can not be reflux as it doesn't get worse again!

I am not sure what to do... Was ranitidine effective for you? Any side effect?

Nazly - sounds like boob rage, ie he is too hungry to wait for letdown to come. Bootle gives immediate milk which is why he took it. He may calm down enough to take the breast after a small amount from a bottle.

Another idea would be bottle preference. If he is getting a regular bottle he could start to realise that bottle is easier and so refuse the breast until her gets the bottle.

I'm not handling DD's 12 week growth spurt in an ideal way for the purists. She's doing both the above and lots of screaming aswel. It's like having a newborn again! With 3 other children I frankly don't have the energy, patience or inclination to leave her at the boob from 3pm to 10pm as she would like at the moment - so she gets formula at tea time to save my sanity.

Honey - Aidan did that last night. Woke at 11.30, I tried soothing, brought him downstairs, changed his nappy, tried feeding, tried dummy, nothing was working, then he just gave up and slept...right through til 7.30 this morning. Still no idea what it was about!

Hope you day improved KitKat - sounds awful.

Nazly, my DD gets mega boob rage at about 75% of her feeds! Sounds like just what you have described. Does your little one have a dummy? If so, try calming baby with the dummy, bring their mouth/dummy right up to your nipple, pull the dummy to one side in their mouth, slip nipple in to swap dummy for nipple Hope that makes sense?! It is the only way I can get DD back on the boob when she has rage. Sometimes I need to repeat it 3/4 times.

Nazly - ranitidine worked for a bit but then he seemed worse again so gp changed him to omeprazole. He admitted the omeprazole works better but is much more expensive so they have to give ranitidine first. Mine had been back to the refusing to feed, arching, screaming etc and has only fed in his sleep for most of last fortnight. Today was better though. He's mucked up my supply by barely feeding (no weight gain over fortnight) so now is having to work extra hard to build it up again.

Did yours have skin allergy tests? Doc today said they wouldn't bother as they only show immune system responses which not all allergies are and therefore she wouldn't be able to prescribe non dairy formula as he wouldn't be classed as allergic or something like that

She also said egg was a likely allergy offender so to use duck eggs. I said I hate eggs, and milk, and apparently that's linked to him now being allergic

I think I'm more confused after speaking to her tbh, if would be so much easier if there was less conflicting advice out there!