March 2013 - by the time we finish this one we'll be shopping for elf outfits. Eek!

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Here we go again then ladies. Plenty more shiny new space to fill up with ramblings :-) Link to last thread

any and worse welcome to the bug camp. Hope these toddlers get better soon. Ds is snotty now and I am taking that is good news so the yucky germs are finally going. It has wiped me out wth exhaustion too though.

worse 37 weeks? wow how did that happen? my friend is pregnant with her 5th child! Here is us talking about only having 2 children and how to manage them. All I can say is good luck to her. I would say birthday cake for this age is for the adult. Surely it is a celebration for the parents to say yes! we managed to parent this child damn well for 2 whole years. Maybe we can throw a big sweet 16 party for the toddlers in the future at your new hotel

I am torn between cbeebies land, thomas land, peppa pig world or lego land. Any recommendations are welcome. I have told the family there will be no birthday party only cutting a cake.

plonky good luck with your photography maybe in spring business will be better.

stormy I had this discussion with my old manager. I wanted to hit him when he said his dd slept from 8 weeks. Then I think actually I wonder what his wife would say. Dh is good at sleeping through ds waking up whereas I wake up even if he turns in his cot.

shattered if you are to busy to post just post hi so we know you are ok.

I used to be just the same, yummy, with waking up at the slightest sound. My brain's got better at distinguishing between "cough cough back to sleep" and "I'm awake for the day!" But mornings are the interesting part - occasionally the man stays over because I need to be elsewhere or hungover first thing, like today. The 7.15 coughing didn't wake me. The 8.15 wide awake didn't wake me. The 8.30 calls of "Find Mummy!" from outside my door woke me. In other words, my brain has now learnt that if he's on early morning duty I don't need to wake up. Perhaps DH could take a bit of early morning responsibility from time to time? It may help your brain to get itself round not needing to wake at every sound.

Hi yummy and all you other lovely ladies
Sorry for not posting. I'm going to say it's been hectic but from a quick squizz it looks like that is No Excuse!!!
A hotel worse wow...and I think that would be hard with no babies!!! Silly question but are you (just) renovating it or going to run it too?? The mind boggles!!!
How's the new house plonk? Getting settled? Tell that landlord of yours where to go....
eco tell me about your yurts. I've seen you mention them once or twice but tell me more!! Hope you've found some lovely new hunters to replace yours...
So I've joined worse's club but reckon I'm a trimester behind. 37weeks already worse!!!!! Turns out looking after a toddle plus being pregnant is hard. Who knew??!!
Thinking of you all!!

Wow shattered congratulations!!!!

Shattered you dark horse!!!!!! Congratulations . The pregnant and a toddler thing gets easier I think, or maybe you just get used to it. Either way I'm not struggling as much now as I was a month ago.

Congratulations, Shattered!

You kept that blimmin' quiet didn't you!

Wow! Lovely news Shattered! When are you due? Exciting madness

that's cheered us all right up shattered! Well done yummy for
your rallying call! Congratulations shattered and Mr shattered and toddle. Lovely news. How are you feeling? You and worse can swap 'toddler and pregnant' stories for a few days And then she can mentor you through the early days.

Yurts were supposed to be our (including a couple who are our business partners) way through to an alternative life where we run around outdoors everyday giving wholesome people fantastic holiday experiences in an earth friendly way. Then my mum died, we moved house, our business partners had a baby, we got married and had a baby and then relocated to bloody
Bedfordshire, so the dream has had to bend and
stretch as all of our circumstances have altered. Plonky will tell you that starting a business alongside other work commitments is hard going and nigh on impossible when other curve balls come through. So that's the story! But 2015 is going to be epic for them and they're going up in a gorgeous spot in march until October. Whoop!

But anyhow, you're having a baby! Thrilling news. Does your son know much of the news? For that matter, Worse, how is worselet feeling about things? Have you bought those books about mummy dinosaur laying a egg?

Thanks ladies
May wotta !!! Madness indeed......
Don't think DS has got the idea yet eco. I've not been saying much to him about it, he does Not like me holding other babies . DH did talk to him about 'the baby' today and he was patting my (large!) tummy but not sure he understand. The books sound like a good idea, I will investigate

Shattered worselet has no clue either, I think they are just too young to grasp the concept to be honest. My stomach fascinates her, and my now outty belly button provides hours of fun , but other than that she has no interest.

One thing to watch though, is their desire to bounce on the bump. Usually I manage to keep her at arm's length, but tonight she caught me unawares, leapt on the bottom of it, bounced a few times, and has succeeded in flipping the baby into a breech position. I felt him turn. Honestly, I could cry, as he hasn't got long to flip back.

Congratulations shattered! That is exciting news.

Anyone else non pregnant marchers feeling a little bit more broody now? I know so many pregnant women and I keep thinking I want one too.lol

Er, no. Not tonight yummy.

No sleep last night and we have had crying in the cot since 7pm tonight. Anyone got any suggestions? I've given calpol (next dose 11pm), dentinox, water, cuddles, no cuddles, sitting with her, shouting 'go to sleep' from another room, nurofen (not to her taste), music from Scout. She. Will. Not. Calm. Down.

And goodness, congrats shattered! I long for the squishy newborn days when it was massively easier in hindsight

any shouting from another room I shouldn't smile, sorry, but I do like that as a tactic to get them to go the fuck to sleep. Could she be hungry? Honestly? My parenting is poor. If I had tried everything in my arsenal and not had an ounce of success...a film on the iPad, with the parental lock on so he couldn't touch the screen.

Oh wait, I did try eco's tactic of sleeping beside his cot on the floor the other week. Uncomfortable to start with, but it worked. He cried for a few minutes because I didn't interact with him, then he went to sleep, and so did I.

Shattered when is dc2 due? do you know the sex?

Yummy I'm always teetering on the brink of broodiness. I think I'd like to start trying again soonish.

eco the yurts sound fab, any chance of mates rates?

I have my first photography booking. A new born in (hopefully) late February. Must....quash...broodiness....

Aaaah congratulations Shattered!

Worse you poor thing! Has Babax been breech before and moved? That must have been some impressive bouncing! You'll just have to get her to repeat it!

Have you ever had a day (non-pregnant people) where you just feel bloody awful for no good reason. I've been lightheaded and struggling to keep my eyes open all day and madam has been on horrible form so it's been a very long day! We did take to bed for an iPad TV marathon this afternoon and managed to little joint nap. I feel guilty though because I've lost my temper and shouted at her a couple of times too. No good parenting moments in this house today!

Any that's rubbish. Have you tried sending DH in? I think I'd probably go for a pick up, quick cuddle and reassure and put down and leave for a bit approach but who the hell knows with these todderists?

Yummy I'm definitely not feeling broody! I sometimes wish I was because it would make things a lot more straightforward to start trying for another one now but I feel a very long way off being ready.

betty I was feeling like you yesterday. After my post last night I zonked out but I saw that I had written on a piece of paper that I gave ds calpol at 9.30pm (I have a shit memory so I have to write these things down so I don't overdose him.lol). I have no recollection of getting up for him last night. I was just so exhausted and very snappy at ds and dh.

I guess we all have our off days and our hormones can go crazy and that makes us feel crazy sometimes. Most of the time a good sleep and/or a holiday can do the world of good. Today is a new day Betty and I hope it is a better one for you.

plonky whoop whoop on your first booking. I need to get on the property ladder before I get pregnant again so I have to keep my broodiness at bay. I told dh if we can afford it I am not going back to work for a couple of years if I have baby no2. I am being a wimp but I can't work and have 2 small children.

any have you tried singing to dd? We have regressed slightly with our day time naps. Ds will not sleep unless I sing twinkle twinkle to him just like when he was a baby. He is a knock out in a couple of minutes as soon as I start singing. I am taking it as a compliment and not that I have a rubbish voice. Dm has been looking after him whilst I have been working so she may have stopped that little habit he had.

shattered how are you feeling? how is this pregnancy compared to your last one? Any different or same as before? As you can see we have a lot of questions for you please don't run away again

worse get bouncing on that ball or your bed to get babax to move back.

We're going to have to call the next thread "The one with the second babies," aren't we? My envy knows no bounds.

worse on the plus side, at least you know babax is the wrong way round. Surprise breech is best avoided, as XSIL would tell you.

Good news here (though not quite so exciting) - Fartypants ate real, normal food for every meal yesterday! Cheese sandwich for lunch and pasta bake for tea. I'm in awe, but I missed it all because I was helping my dad out all yesterday.

How's everyone doing with naps at the moment? I recall most of them were resisting to some degree before Christmas. We persisted, and seem to be back to a lovely two hour nap. And thank god for that, because no naps is still a very scary idea.

Also, some encouragement for anyone worried about talking. DD's friend who just turned two was always behind her with talking. In the past few weeks she's leapt ahead and now does proper sentences ("I want some juice," where DD would just say, "Juice please."). It's really cool to see.

I'm bouncing!!! I not sure what way up he is now as he's been napping all morning, but it feels kind of sideways. Honestly, these toddles, they think up new ways to try us every day don't they.

Stormy we're finding the same. DD has gone from saying nothing, ever, to learning at least one new word every day. I'm amazed. I really was beginning to wonder if she was a little bit slow, or autistic, or just plain thick! Good to know she was just biding her time and taking it all in. Same as with food I guess. She was probably the last to wean on here, and now is known as a 'good eater' at nursery, i.e. eats everything and has seconds is a pig

Not eating at the moment though. Teeth? Sore throat? Who knows. In two days the only proper food she has had was one meal of cheesy scrambled egg and baked beans (her absolute favourite thing ever) last night. Everything else I've given her has been pushed away with an emphatic 'NO no no!'

Shattered yes, spill, how has this pregnancy been going? Do you know the sex? I'm nosey interested, because among my RL friends all have found girl pregnancies lovely, and boy pregnancies hellish. Different hormones or just coincidence?

Betty could be a bug, or hormones, or lack of sleep? Or just a general dose of fed-up-ness! All are a valid excuse!

Right, admin calls. I hate admin. So much paper work..... arghhh

Stormy what say you are the next to get upduffed? Has your enthusiasm for number two worn The Man down yet?

Worse I hope he turns back! And quickly! When do you next get to bother a midwife? My sister struggled when Arlo kept flipping about and this thing was recommended to her, a Mexican practice involving her DP wrapping her belly in a big scarf and dangling her about. That sounds mental, doesn't it? Hmm. This website explains it far better. Rebozo. That's what it's called.

Betty all crashing out and having a nap actually sounds lovely. I feel the same from time to time, I think it's just being worn out TBH. Let yourself have some rest.

Mmm you've all got me thinking about second babies again. I always said I wanted a 3 year gap...that'd mean trying again quite soon...

Ooh lots of questions!! will try and answer them all!
May, plonk . We don't know the sex!! So worse I don't know. Does that mean you found It easier with the worselet than babax? This one has been a little different, but I was still just as sick and I guess I'm more tired because I can't chill out as much!! Also sadly my SPD is just as bad, if not worse. So really I have no feeling whether it's a boy or a girl. So long as it's ok
altho we kind of wish we knew !

Well done on the booking plonk it must feel like things are getting moving now!!
Thanks for explaining the yurts eco !! They sound properly awesome.

Hmm...sleep. How's it going any? I have to say we are mostly lucky but then we do still have regular bad nights. I think DS may be scared of the dark..?? Does anyone have a night light yet? I'm not keen to get one but think we may have to, so any recommendations are welcome.

shattered ds is becoming scared of the dark too. We have the hallway light on and his door is ajar and he's happy like that. Also we need some light so we I don't stand on toys as I go to his room every couple of hours or so.

plonky I thought about the 3 year gap too and that means I need to get pregnant around June. That is no time at all.

If early wakings are a problem, a gro-clock might be a good option for a night light. All we've got is one of those ones that are basically just a plug that glows, and it's useless, but it's red. The white one my parents had at the top of the stairs when I were a nipper was a bit better.

Plonk I'm working on it! Last year, even though I was on the pill, we had sex three times (once in May and twice in October) because he wouldn't risk it. Last pack of pills ran out just before Christmas, and now he's happy to shag again. Now all I have to do is resist the urge to say, "By the way, I'm ovulating," beforehand. Hoping for a February conception purely on the grounds that there are no immediate family birthdays in November.

Please can you all stop talking about beautiful squishy soft lovely newborn babies? Especially you pair worse and shattered with your bumpy glows!! DP and I kind of planned to start trying again at Christmas just gone, but this whole wedding thing has put that on hold because I want to get reaaaaally drunk don't want to be pregnant when I'm a bride, and we don't want the stresses and the like of a newborn when planning and having a wedding. So January 2016 is the start of conception for the Somethings plonk get cracking so that I can have my share of newborn cuddles, please and ta.

worse I'm surprising myself with this fitness lark. I've done my HiiT training 3 times this week (including the extra abs session today!!) and yoga last night. This is NOT like me. I'm quite proud of myself actually and I'm surprised at how good I feel. Don't you dare worry about not being at your fitness peak, I think I know of a little reason why not. But as long as you keep yourself and the worselet and babax healthy, then all is well.

eco your yurts sound amazing. I want to stay in a yurt!! We've booked our mini breakaway in February in a cottage in Whitby, us 3 and the dog. So excited!

betty are you feeling more chipper today? I know the days you're talking about, where everything makes you feel crappy and you've just had enough. I sense a day like that coming up for me because I have a relentless sniffle. Not a cold, or flu, but an annoying, pointless sniffle that does nothing but bother me. The cuddles in bed sound lovely, I wish we could do that but DS doesn't like calm time, he makes it climb time.

We had new words here today, despite me only seeing him for an hour this morning. "Watch" when trying on my mum's watch and "ready, steady, goooo" when he pushed his cars down the ramp.

Right, suppose I'd better go now since I only have 20 minutes to finish all my work of printing and filing