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November 2012 - Bring on the summer fun

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StuntNun · 17/06/2014 22:51

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2096331-November-2012-All-our-babies-are-18-months-where-has-the-time-gone

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GTbaby · 29/06/2014 14:07

Finally. TWW has been driving me crazy all day!

YellowWellies · 29/06/2014 16:41

My DH identifies as a feminist and I hope I raise J to be one too. Not meaning I'll force him into a tutu but meaning I'll teach him that women are his equals.

PetiteRaleuse · 29/06/2014 16:54

Have to admit that parents encouraging / actively hoping theor little boys cross dress for fun kind of annoy me. It cries out trying too hard and sets them up for ridicule. That said cross dressers don't bother me at all as adults. Each to their own and they are old enough to do what they like.

PetiteRaleuse · 29/06/2014 16:55

Boris Johnson said he was a feminist on one of his MN webchats. Have to say I was a little disbelieving. :o

MsJupiter · 29/06/2014 18:15

Ooh I missed v interesting chat! I am with YW completely and can't put things better than she has.

I won't force L into a tutu but if he wants a pink handbag he can have one. I was secretly pleased at the park today when he kidnapped a small girl's baby dolly in its pushchair Smile.

Interesting to see Dolly Parton's popularity, she has drawn a bigger Sunday crowd than many others have and is clearly a talented performer but physically she has the Barbie look. I wonder if she identifies as a feminist.

horseylady · 29/06/2014 18:41

To join in.

I'm a scientist.

I'm far too tired and on holiday to be anything else lol

Everything is good in moderation. Extremes are bad :)

ValiumQueen · 29/06/2014 18:54

J has been to the park in a floral rain jacket, and is one wearing a pink Princess Peppa dressing gown. Clearly he has been reading FB.

YellowWellies · 29/06/2014 18:55

See I'm a feminist who loves a bit of Dolly Parton! Confused

ValiumQueen · 29/06/2014 18:59

I thought a feminist had to be female. Clearly I need to read up on this.

I need to buy a swim suit. I should go to a shop and try one on shouldn't I? I tried mine on and it would be ok if I were a couple of inches shorter as it is having to go around my tum Blush so just going up one size would be a bit silly without trying it on wouldn't it? I don't have the funds to order a few and return those I don't like.

ValiumQueen · 29/06/2014 19:00

Or I could just stop eating lard.

PetiteRaleuse · 29/06/2014 19:06

I love Dolly Parton!

MsJupiter · 29/06/2014 19:13

Being a feminist doesn't mean you have to tick lots of boxes about stuff you like or don't like, wear or don't wear. I think there is a lot of confusion and argument in feminism at the moment about whether you have to subscribe to a particular set of ideals in order to call yourself a feminist but for me you can say you are one at any stage of your thinking, so it could be that you live in what could be considered a very 'unfeminist' way but you start to think, yes I believe in equality and therefore I'm a feminist, then later on you start to examine what this means and how it relates to your life or the lives of those around you. It can be a stepping stone or something that comes later.

I don't think you have to write a thesis before you can get the badge and I don't think you have to be 100% above reproach in every aspect of your life once you have the badge.

PetiteRaleuse · 29/06/2014 19:34

I agree Jupiter but on MN for example you can get ripped apart on the FWR boards for being what they consider unfeminist. It's a shame as it puts people off.

BigPigLittlePig · 29/06/2014 19:35

I guess by YWs description I would be a feminist. Have never really givmen it any thought. I am fortunate to work in a career where women outnumber men now Grin although owing to our propensity to have babies, it does take longer to get to the top of the food chain. All I can hope for F is that she is given choice in life, and is equipped with the skills to make informed choices. And if she wants a buzz cut heh so be it although dh might have different views haha

F isn't right. Again Hmm . She's barely eaten for 2 days, drinking masses (think, downing glass of water then asking for more), stinky runny poos (including epic poonami for daddy this morning). No obvious temps. Am on high alert for spots Confused Confused

Last night shift tonight, phew.

Glad you had a nice evening Lily. How was Chasings date?

Passmethecrisps · 29/06/2014 20:02

Evening all.

End of term celebrations last night have meant a quiet day here. Nice though.

P is still streaming with the blinking cold - well over a week now and still rivers of green snot.It seems to come and go so I keep thinking it is past then on it comes again.

Off for lunch to a friend's tomorrow which I am looking forward to but given p's mood until her nap today I am not holding out much hope.

PetiteRaleuse · 29/06/2014 20:04

Happy holidays pass

Passmethecrisps · 29/06/2014 20:11

Thank you!

Sorry little pig isn't right again. Poor wee soul.

YellowWellies · 29/06/2014 20:35

Get well soon mini Pig and crisps. Sad

We had a lovely day at Loch Leven walking through the nature reserve and scoffing finery at a local farm shop. Jonas' favourite part of the day was a huge field that he could just run and run in. The dog nearly gave herself a cardio chasing low swooping swallows. My favourite part of the day was buying Stilton crackers and a big jar of harissa in the deli. This baby wants spice!

ChasingDaisy · 29/06/2014 20:57

Very interesting chat. Far too hungover and tired to make any sort of contribution though.

Date went well. Or so I thought. He doesn't want to see me again Hmm

StuntNun · 29/06/2014 21:07

VQ I have a fab swimsuit from Debenhams with a control panel to hold in my tum. It looks vair nice compared to my old one which was only nice until I turned sideways.

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Kyz · 29/06/2014 22:15

Evening all :) You've all been very chatty over the weekend! I didn't make it on yesterday as we had a busy day, and today has been the same. Yesterday I made some butterfly biscuits, i've shared a picture on facebook because pr made me and i'm actually a little bit chuffed with them to be fair, i think they look alright! aaaand I got a bargain (vq springs to mind but I know there are other bargain hunters) on a facebook sale site, well I think it's a bagrain, a nice solid table and four nice solid chairs in near perfect condition, I can't find any marks etc and t'was £150. Pretty sure it'd be considerably more but i'm really pleased with it :) Anyway...

Thankyou all again for being so supportive of me, it's so nice of you all to be so understanding, and once again i'm very thankful for the quiche Flowers, I wouldn't have had anyone else to tell and so it's nice to be able to tell you all something like this and have it taken seriously and understood :)

It's been raining today here too and I spent a good couple of hours out in it blocking up holes in the hedge and fence to stop my bloody bastarding dogs from taking themselves out for a wander every sodding time I open the back door

msjj I am another write-a-post-then-delete person. Though not so much now, I used to do it ALL the time, but i'm much better now :) Please do post when you can, love hearing from you :) Sounds like a lovely holiday that you had

I've not forgotten chick I'll be seeing my mum tomorrow so I'll make sure I ask her for you x

mmm yesterdays dinner sounds lovely zamboni

I am fancying lamb for next sunday now pr haven't had lamb for ages

I love the x-files, tis one of my favourites

I also thought the tww when I flicked through the fred Blush

Glad you all enjoyed your haggis meet :) E would've been running around too, mind you so would my baby sister!

I'm finding the gender discussions very interesting. I try not to stereotype and I like to think i treat e the same as i'd treat a dd if i were to have one. I think it's not just girls that need to be taught they can say no, but boys too. I think what i'm trying to say is that I just aim for equality and choice, and I agree with what vq said.

E has always had access to dolls/pink things if he wants them as my little sister has them and he has some of his own. E and my sister (also an e, which is why i say my sister) are very close in age and since we've only moved out about 2 months ago they shared and still do share everything, both are allowed to play freely with each others toys, she sometimes borrows his cars and he usually wears her slides for example. Always out of choice. Is it bad that to be honest I hadn't really ever thought twice about it? Interestingly I have never steered him towards any of the things he loves, I have always tried to make sure I let him express himself as he wishes. As it is he is obsessed with vehicles, literally obsessed, particularly at the minute with trains. He also loves dinosaurs (dindindoors). He adores animals, and babies. If we are out and we see a baby, he wants to go and give it a cuddle. He has a squigglet teddy that he puts in his pink pushchair (when the wooden train is not in it) and takes it for a ride. He also brum brums cars around. So does my sister. I think what i'm trying to say here is that I find it intersting that given all the choices he is given e still likes 'boys toys' usually.
Very much with you on the nursery situation pr I can't understand why dd1 should have to give/accept cuddles? My younger siblings are constantly picking E up or kissing him and I think it's lovely that they're so sweet with him BUT when he's pushing them away and squealing I tell them quite firmly that he doesn't want the attention. He is a very loving little boy and is perfectly capable of giving kisses and cuddles when he sees fit. Anyway I find that the hugs and kisses e chooses to give me are worth ten times more than those I ask for. It makes me go all wibbly and warm (ha, i am always wibbly) when he comes and puts his head on my knee, or wraps his pudgy little arms around me and taps the back of my neck lightly with his little fingers.

I had barbies. Quite liked them too. Rather barbies than bratz that's for sure!

glad the cat came back pr

awww bless ageing pussy pass So glad she's on the mend now though :)

Glad you enjoyed your date lily

LOVE the spice racks yw

All the feminist talk has had me reading up on feminism. I have to admit I thought only females could be feminists. The rest of it I got, though. I haven't given it much thought really, but I definitely do believe in equality, I know that much.

Also quite like dolly parton

vq I would go and try some on, and see which one you feel most comfortable in?

oh no bp sorry to hear F isn't right again, hope she's on the mend soon!

sounds like a fab day yw

His loss chasing most definitely!

phew, long post! sorrryyyyyy

YellowWellies · 29/06/2014 22:29

If anyone wants a funny intro to feminism I have two copies of Caitlin Moran's 'How to be a woman' and will happily pop one in the post. PM me if interested. I loved it despite it proving on several occasions how shit my pelvic floor is. She is a proper feminist lady crush of mine! I love her line about not caring about sagging boobs because only her hungry babies or post kids sex starved husband saw them, and they are all eminently grateful Grin

itsnotyouitsMeals · 30/06/2014 00:50

DH and I are both feminists. He is very clear that he is one and that men can be.

And re vegetables my top tip is frozen peas and frozen sweet corn straight from the freezer. The DDs gobble them as if they were sweets. And 'dippy lunch' of houmous with strips of pitta toasted, carrot batons and cherry toms. Yum.

GTbaby · 30/06/2014 01:01

A seems to be sleeping a lot better since he started rolling onto his tummy at night Grin. Still a 6am wake up. But we dropped the 3am cuddle which was killing me as I'm usually just falling asleep.

Went to a tea party today. Mistake waking boys from their naps early. Should have just gone to the party later. Darn my need to be on time. No one would have minded. H ended up being clingy/whinny all afternoon.

Every time I've tried cucumber sticks he bites it into tiny bits then spits it out. I don't like humous (one of those things I want to like but don't). I know my limited range of food is going to mess up his habits. But I'd end up wasting / throwing everything. Frustrating. As fh is very picky. I'm less picky. But don't want to pass that on.

LuisCarol · 30/06/2014 02:08

afaik Dolly Parton is popular again because of this internet meme .

Am I allowed to call myself a feminist?