December 2012: Everyone loves nap time.

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Started a new thread for us before we run out of room.

Wow pidj I have heard people say that babies in cloth potty train sooner. I'm dreading that stage!

We had a lovely afternoon at the fete was pretty hot. Ds seemed bothered by his teeth today but also it was really hot.

Pidjfif you're worried about a toilet but want to carry on potty training our HV suggested putting pants on and then a pull-up on top. No external mess, but the wet pants experience if it happens.

Tempting fate, but A doesn't even wee when his nappy comes off, so I don't think we'll be potty training any time soon! DD was a bit later than we could have started with her- when A was about 2 weeks old.

I'm hoping for a good night tonight. It was just the one wake up last night. And if that could be an early 18 month regression. ....

He's had a nasty bit of rash that is healing but slowly. I'd been giving him loads of nappy free time with a potty handy, then he started asking for the toilet - even when we were out. So I'd take him even though he didn't do anything. He'd then wet his nappy 5-10 minutes after he'd been sitting on the toilet. He's also sleeping through a couple of nights a week (as in 5:30pm - 6:30am) because he only wakes when he's wet (I'm still getting up to change him the other nights, just been and done one so fingers crossed no more till morning!)

Anyhow, we saw the Dr to check the rash on Thursday and she suggested pants to give it more air before medication etc as Fucibet did sod all when I tried it a few weeks ago. So I went shopping on Thursday afternoon. We've had a couple of accidents a day, still about 5 minutes after he's been sitting on the loo, and this evening he managed a few drops on the toilet. So I'm hopeful that the accident stage is going to be over fairly soon! I feel uncomfortable because it's a bit like forcing him, but actually he is asking and I'm giving him lots of praise for trying and absolutely no scolding for accidents. It's not that hard actually, although I have invested in a spray bottle from superdrug which lives in the nappy bag full of diluted Milton!

R is an odd one, even at mere days old he wouldn't feed or sleep unless his bum was clean. I've had him in paper as well as cloth and seen no difference either to the rash or his behaviour. Wet = yuck to my wee dude! So I'm not sure the nappies have that much to do with it.

It is a fact that the average age for potty training is getting later, and that's a lot to do with the disposable manufacturers wanting to sell more of their products!

Beastly dd was late too, the easter before her third birthday but she was dry in two days and then dry at night a couple of weeks later (bar the odd accidents they all seem to get!).

I'm so tired I might have to go to bed now

DD was in reusable nappies. No bloody difference!

And I don't think DH was no blame the other night when DD wet the bed...

A lot of it is down to the child. I think a lot of cloth-bum babies in ye olden dayes were forced because their mothers didn't want all the washing - I don't blame them too much; wet pailing = poo soup

Beasty tell me about it everyone around me is ill and H is constantly ill

Pidj H is always asking for a wee or poo now and is pretty consistant im getting to the toilet on time. We have her in pull ups in the day and nappies of a night. Although she spends alot of time completely out of her pull ups in the day. She is also pretty insistant i wiping her own bum with toilet paper and washing her hands afterwards.

I also agree that tonight seems to be getting hotter!

I keep waking up at 5am

Could be worse Spotty, j woke at 4:30 again!

Today's obsession is trying to drink bloody bubble mixture! He's driving me mental! Time to go out methinks.

I can't even imagine trying potty training yet. J is very consistent when it comes to poos (one when he wakes up and one at bedtime), and he loves an al fresco wee when you take his nappy off or does one straight after being changed. Still think I'll give it a while.

Was at the worlds most tiring kids party yesterday and there was much bitching among my friend's older relatives about how the baby's cousins aren't potty trained at almost 4. I suppose it may be difficult to understand though when the advice used to be to train before 18 months.

i wasn't expecting to train R for a good while yet tbh. But lots of nappy-free time to clear the rash has lead him to start asking to use the toilet, plus he's started doing massive ones a few times a day rather than small and frequently, plus he's been dry several nights now although not consistently. So my eminently kind and sensible GP suggested that pants and dealing with accidents might be a better treatment for the rash than any medication.

This morning he asked for the toilet at sunday school, dampened his pants 3 minutes later so I took him back and changed him, then he asked for the toilet again 10 minutes later and dampened my only set of spares 5 minutes after that! Argh, daft mummy needs two things: More Spares and More Strategies for keeping him on the loo till he's wee'd! He sits for a good 5 minutes having cuddles, playing and being sung to but still doesn't actually go till a couple of minutes later

Oh and Roll on bedtime!

Ds just fell in the bath head first. Luckily I half caught him with my legs and then dp came in...

I'm back from a super relaxing weekend away with 3 of my oldest bestest buds. 'Twas amazing! DH did pretty well, seems that T didn't give him too much grief about his lack of boobs. He's knackered now though! I need to do some planning and prep for my interview as soon as dds are all in bed.
Poor little pidj nappy rash must be awful for them. Hope the potty training is going well. I found that a book was the only way to keep dd1&2 on the loo for more than a nano second.
Hope ds is ok spotty

And fx for the job willyou

Books sounds like a good idea wl. Still mighty impressed with the early potty training. My mother claims being in cloth persuaded my brother and me to choose to be trained early but no signs of O giving a stuff yet! Sort of thinking if we force the issue he might just regress after the new Small is born in November, so not pushing it til after that - is that very late, at 2?

other news - lots more signs but STILL no words; he's very good with please and thank you and likes to high five people... He seems fine but I still worry. Physically good - we have mastery of forks, spoons mostly, and open cups.

Also the flat is almost finished and snagged! Just the front door to finish, a couple of plinths in the kitchen and the floors to resand and seal. The latter will be a real bugger though - wish they'd got that one right before the furniture arrived...

This morning I woke up at 4:30 stupid birds

Utopian I'd say 2-2.5 is pretty average.

Ds still has no words either apart from mum. Bir is possibly bird but just as likely not!

Thanks, that's reassuring spotty. I had a vile dream about zombies so was awake 1 30-2.30, everyone else fast asleep! O woke up at 6 so brought him for a cuddle - now he and dh are both asleep on my left arm which isttotally dead but they look so cute I don't want to disturb...

Oh no! Do you think it was the heat? I'm susceptible to bad dreams, used to get sleep paralysis and night terrors etc, horrible.

AFAIK 2.5 is around average. I would consider a 2yo to be an early potty trainer my friend's dd was 2 1/4 and was the first of her little buddies. R is just a little oddball in that respect, even at under a week old he'd refuse to feed if his nappy was dirty or too wet!

I've put him down for his nap in a babygrow with a cotton blanket. Took him 10 minutes to settle where I'd expect him to go off instantly in his bag but it's far too hot up there even for a 1 tog with the window wide open

I'm in the nasty dreams club too, think it's the humidity

Ok ladies, wish me luck, just about to set off for the interview. Feels v weird to be wearing a suit.

I'd say 2-3 is average for potty training but I know a couple of boys that weren't ready til almost 4. I honestly think if at all possible you should wait until you feel that they (rather than you/relatives/nursery) are ready. Pushing it before will only lead to upset. What pidj said about one big wee rather than lots of littles is a good point - both dd1&2 did this for quite a while before being out if nappies - I guess its a sign that the bladder muscles are developed and strong enough.
T is getting new words every day now and quite a bit of emphatic 'no' with shaking head if she's fed up and doesn't want the things I'm trying to distract her with. Again, IMO talking will come when it comes. My friends very bright and sociable dd said almost nothing until after 2.

Good luck WL

The dr was definitely listening to what I said for physical signs of readiness - the few big wees is one, also asking to or indicating that they're going. If they're not doing those, they're not going to "get it" and will just be upset at being forced. I've heard that walking up and down stairs on their feet is another one, which R has done for a while now albeit holding my hand or a nearby railing. Or he goes up with his hands on the next step for balance but on his feet. Something to do with pelvic floor strength?

A's legs are too short to walk up the stairs properly!

Good luck WL hope the interview goes/ went well.

Good luck WL!

Good Luck WL

I watched a news item the other day about the increasing amount of 5 year olds still in nappies when they go to Primary School. I think thats too old.