Graduated Elderberries

[HazleNutt]

It's time to move to Post-Natal clubs.

alex I wouldn't worry about the routine, H has days like that too, I would just celebrate the 7.5 hours! I like that H still keeps me on my toes, like today he was up at 7.30 wanting to chat and play when usually he will sleep till 9. Its just lovely to see him so happy and smiling away at us.

H seems to be a little better on the sleep front at the moment, we are regularly getting 5 and a half hour stretches or more, of course now I've said that it will all go to shit and I feel so much better for it. Oddly it has coincided with me bathing him in the morning, I wonder if the bath was waking him up too much. Strange.

It's one night Alex, I wouldn't stress. I'd keep with it, hopefully most days it will work and if yesterday counts as a day that didn't 'work' you still got amazing sleep!

Alex I would just be over the moon with the 7.5 hours coinciding with when you want to sleep! It's still very early days on the routine front yet, plenty of time to slowly develop one.

After over a week of pretty shitty sleeping the razor-sharp edge of E's 1st tooth finally made an appearance yesterday which she immediately put to good use and bit me on the nipple. For those babies with teeth already, how long after breaking through did sleeping improve? There was zero improvement in sleeping last night.

M had two teeth come through within a week... I'd say that within a week of them both making an appearance he started with the 11-12 hour nights -not every night mind you! Hopefully within the next week or so you'll see an improvement...

Ooh sounds like teeth coming through is good for sleep.

I know I'm being a bit obsessive about the routine, will try and relax especially as it's gone to shit again tonight

Spent the day with all the in laws. Been told I should be letting S cry it out, making a mistake running to her even though we're all eating a meal (S would not help me out by not crying for a while!), been told about babies sleeping 14 hours at 5 weeks in, been asked if I don't think planning to bf for 6 months is a long time...oh well I've survived judgment and S crying lots to see another day haha!

alexandra we have a similar situation with our dog barking at the fox who comes through out garden. 3 am guarding of the garden does your head in when you're desperate for baby to sleep.

Oh Janey I really hope so, but I won't get my hopes up. If she just went back to only waking once a night I would be happy. The most she has ever slept consecutively since birth is 9 hours so if that stretched out another few hours I would be amazed!

I've lost hope of any sleep for the next 18 years to be honest!!! L has been waking up pretty much every hour for the last 2 weeks. I'm beyond knackered. If a tooth can make any difference at all I'll be happy!!!

S has been asleep for 8.5 hours so far, 10pm-6.30am!!!

If my boobs weren't literally about to explode (ouch!), I'd do a little celebration dance!

Sorry if that sounded smug after your post lol I know we've got regressions and teething to come but so happy as just a few days ago I couldn't imagine her sleeping through this well!

Nice work S, we had a couple of weeks where H slept through and they were amazing! Enjoy

lol I hope you're ok! Sleep deprivation sucks!

H managed 12 - 4.45 last night, I'm just grateful for anything more than 2 hours after the shit times we were having! He's back down now after drinking 6oz.....fx I get another few hours.

p.s my oh just got up for work which is why I'm awake while H isnt

S is still asleep - 9 hours! I'd love to still be asleep making the most of it but as she had mostly expressed milk yesterday, my boobs are literally throbbing with pain but I'm not letting that spoil my great mood!

The problem with being a second wave grad on here is you can't pretend she'll now sleep through forever When does the sleeping through peak - when were your 9 hour sleep-throughs cav?

night was reasonable here, 2 wakings, but at 3 and 4. Was fed at 3, should not have been hungry, so I waited quite a bit for him to fall asleep by himself, but no. Went down after a feed though.

10 hours in the end!!! Up for a quick feed and she's passed out on me again! Shame I need to wake her to get her ready for her first trip into central London today. We've also booked her first holiday too so she has that to look forward to

alex that's nice, where are you going?
We have booked the trip to St Petersburg with PILs for summer - promised to take them ages ago, they always wanted to see it, but would not travel alone. And going to Estonia then as well, so V will have all his grandparents together for his 1st birthday.

Oh and about boobs, when V still slept before his regression, I sometimes expressed at night, otherwise yes, boobs get painful.

We've got a sleeping-through one here at the moment too. The last two nights she's gone 11-7ish. I am amazed as we had our first trip away this weekend and I thought that being in a travel cot would mean bad nights sleep, but actually I think all the excitement wore her out.

It's quite sporadic to be honest Alex. She has always done longer stretches of sleep but they unfortunately only generally last a few days and you can't pinpoint any reason for it so you can carry on with it. Less than 2 weeks ago she was regularly waking for the first time after 5am (from 8pm) and now she barely goes 2 hours. BUT they are all different and S may well turn into a good sleeper for you. My friend's baby was absolutely horrendous until he was 3 months and then almost overnight started sleeping through for 13 hours and apart from the odd small blip has continued to do so.

So I am faced with a bit of a dilemma now. It's only happened 3 times, but it would seem that when we bring E into our bed she doesn't do her usual 2 hour wake up. She still wakes a few times but settles straight off again. We obviously don't want her in our bed, but it's going to be soooo tempting when the alternative is getting up for 1.5 hours. The downside is because she hasn't been up for 1.5 hours in the night she gets up 1.5 hours earlier so no overall gain in sleep, just a situation which is more socially acceptable.

On the holiday front, we have decided to be sensible and avoid an expensive holiday as we want to save to move house, so we're probably going to book a week AI in Egypt at the end of March and then we might go to Spain with my family in the Summer. I need to get my ass into gear and book Egypt but I never seem to find the time to look properly.

We're going to Spain and it's perfect for her first holiday as it's a friends lovely villa so we get a great deal, gorgeous sea view, private pool, quiet, nice restaurant in walking distance...I can't wait!

hazle I really wanted to get up and express when my boobs were hurting but was scared of waking her! I'm going to sterilise it and bring it to bed from now on just in case so it's all ready for a sneaky late night pump

Good friends of mine are going to Egypt at the end of March and asked us to join - one of them is V's un-official godparent, as he's also called V. I'd love to go, as big V and his partner are both totally gorgeous and I have told them that if they ever change their minds about being gay.. but my parents are coming here for Easter and St Petersburg in the summer is amazingly expensive. And I'd like to leave some holidays for autumn as well.

I'll probably go to Spain for a long weekend though, any of you planning to be around Alicante?

cavort it is tempting, isn't it. But maybe she'll start sleeping better now that tooth is out? I still bring V to our bed every morning, but that's only after he's awake, so we can cuddle and chat a little before I have to go to work.

Jealous of all your holiday plans!!!
alex my sides are splitting at "sneaky late night pump"
Once upon a time we would all have thought nothing of watching telly / listening to music in bed and here we all are creeping about after the witching hour.

Kind of quiet here, how's everybody doing?

Hazle I've just been in a daze recently. Sleeping when I can!!
Alex celebrate away. Hopefully it will last for you!! L was pretty good till about 18-20 weeks but I know for cav it was earlier.
Cav I've been in the same dilemma for 3 weeks. My bed equals peace and sleep. Cot equals hell.
Having said that last night was a bit better. L went down at 9-1 without a moan. Then 1:30-3 then 4-8!!! All in her cot. No tooth yet though.
Took her to get weighed and she's gone up from 50 to 60th centile. HV said to offer water at night. Let's see!
Question. What u all doing for stair gates?!

Will get bog standard baby dan ones I suppose. We already have dog gates- may just use those.
Saw this AMAZING product on the baby dan website- like an accordion so they go flat against the wall when not latched. One handed closure. Was pretty amazing!!

We had 7 hours straight last night so celebrations again here - she didn't go to sleep until 11, so not her routine BUT we are doing the bath/sleeping bag/feed/cuddle at 7pm regardless so she gets used to the evening being a different time.

Such a dilemma about whether to have them in with you cav and lol. Sometimes I wonder if technically S is sharing a bed with us as we have a babybay cosleeper, and I think maybe it'll get her used to wanting to be in bed with us, but oh well, works really well for now. How did last night go cav?