December 2012: 1st birthdays and 1st/2nd Christmasses

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Hi Tedder, welcome to the gang have you tried reinstating day feeds so you can night wean?

Also dp lost his train ticket yesterday and had to pay £30 to get home (after the £35 parking ticket) after moaning we had no money surely he shouldn't be going out?!

I barely manage to get myself on the loo let alone ds I think I've read (on here) that for the time and effort it takes it's really not worth it. That's doing full on ec though not just what Nutella is doing which sounds impressive!

Evening all
Welcome Tedder DS nearly slept through the other night but since then it's been a bit colourful again because he has a virus.
We give him a bottle of milk when he wakes (not always, just when he won't settle) and we have been slowly watering it down; so same volume of drink but less and less powder. I gave up BF when he was 9/10 months old and honestly I don't think he even noticed.
Sorry you're having so many problems, but I promise you're not alone!

spotty yeah, LTB! Or better yet double lock the door when he tries to come home and tell him to think about all the evenings out and "me" time that you get. He does sound a bit of a plonka honestly.

We started putting DS on the toilet was because he would fill the first morning nappy so quickly it seemed to make sense to try it out. My mum was really sceptical when she came and visited in September. But one morning when I handed her her grandson so that DH and I could have a lie in she followed our routine and put him on the toilet and he did a poo as usual. She was really but thought its fab. I'm secretly hoping that when he gets bigger he will want to do more poos on the toilet and I won't have to spend so much time with pooey nappies

DS's fever is better. He seems much much brighter today but still a bit extra fussy. We took him to the dr anyway and she said he has probably been fighting this virus for a while. She was really nice. But also suggested that paracetamol should only be given when a fever hits 39.5 ... I'm sure DH and I will disagree about that in the middle of the night sometime soon.

But DS has shared his virus with me thank goodness DH is working from home. I went back to bed this afternoon while DS slept and didn't get up again until about 16:30. I feel queasy and a bit generally rubbish.

I'm at bit about that Nutella. My temp has only been 38.9 at it's highest and, tbh, I felt like shit until the paracetamol kicked in. Seems a bit mean to me. Hope he's on the mend soon. I'm going to put ds on the toilet on Saturday and see what he does hope I don't drop him in it...

Dp has always been so good I don't know what's up with him recently

Oh and I hope you feel better soon too

spotty thanks, i hope i feel better too. I think DH will be next though . For the toilet it took a few days for DS to get the message and mostly he still is much more interested in getting hold of the toilet roll!
With your DP, what about mega water works? I used to have to cry to get my brothers to help out (my mum spent most of my a level years on holiday with her then husband) otherwise they were blind to the fact that things like washing/cooking/cleaning needed doing.

Oh Tedder that sounds so hard. Have you tried popping over to sleep? I did see a thread about cc vs sitting by the cot until they settle the other day and there were loads if good ideas over there.

We both have sore ears. My temp is 39 and DS' is 39.6. He's engaging in a screamathon right now. Mil had him and didn't realise he was hot so it was hours before he got any calpol and it's taking forever to get his temp back down.

WillYou I remember when dd was younger she came back from mil's wrapped up in coat and hat etc and as soon as I touched her I knew she had a fever it was over 39 how could she not tell?! You must feel awful I hope you both get a good nights sleep

Welcome Tedder. I'm also the proud owner of a sleep-refusing baby. Our situation doesn't sound quite as difficult, as barring teething issues, he's generally a happy little soul during the day. The problems start at bedtime. I'll do the routine with both DC and whereas DS(4) will dutifully go to bed following bath and book, N still thinks it's time to play. The only way he will sleep is via bf and then he won't stay in his cot long. There will be multiple wakeups until I give in and co-sleep. I really think it could be time for me to think about night-weaning, but I reckon he'll self wean altogether soon after and I'd wanted him to have the antibody hit from the bm to get him through his first winter at nursery.

Willyou - hope you and J are ok.

Spotty - following WorksChristmasDoGate last week, you certainly have my sympathy. What frustrates me about DH is not so much him going out, but the way he just makes 'plans' (although that implies a degree of notice) as if he has no commitments whatsoever. If I just decided I fancied a night out at 11.30 pm, all manner of panic and chaos would ensue so I don't do it. Instead, when I do venture out after dark it feels like a military degree of planning is required. When DH goes out it's just business a usual for me. Maybe l should just bugger off and leave him to it for the night - I know nothing truly terrible would happen.

Nut - the GP recently told me to calpol at 38 to stop a fever taking hold but I know there's a school of thought that a mild fever can actually help the body fight the infection itself (really don't know how it's meant to work, something I read on mnet once I think though).

I think A has almost outdone himself. I'd left him in the lounge for a minute and when I came back he had something in his mouth.

A battery. Which he'd managed to get out of a remote control.

At nursery today the pre school room were discussing what they'd like to be when they grow up. DD would like to be a real Mona the Vampire.

And welcome Tedder.

Yep J's partial to a battery or 2 Beasty. Eyes in the back of your head doesn't even come close!

My work are being dicks yet again. Can't wait to go back to work next month

Just a quick one as don't have time to do a full reply....but thanks everybody for your interest and suggestions :)

Welcome to the gang tedder! I'm afraid I'm still rather in the sleepless category but I have had success as spotty describes by reducing the length of each night feed over the course of a few days and then cuddling/rocking to sleep. She always makes her feelings known but I dig my heels in and eventually she gives in. Unfortunately each time we are on the cusp of total success something ruins it - travel/whooping cough/teeth/cold. After some dreadful nights more recently (whooping cough) I'm starting to gently push back a little and as soon as she's over this tooth and cold ill be pushing a bit harder. Talk to your neighbours and explain that it might be noisy for a few nights but it won't last for long. We live in a terraced house and when I spoke to our neighbours they said they hadn't heard (although I suspect they were just being kind!).

I've just finished an epic present wrapping/sorting session. Still got all 3 dds to wrap and about 6 more people to buy for. And need to finish the kangaroos I've knitted. Anyone know where I can find any extra hours?!!

Sorry to hear that willyou.

Word of warning though - batteries can be lethal if they make it to the stomach and mix with the acid. Remotes up high ladies!

Yep, a fever is the bodies way of killing of some germs but does make you feel like shit. I'm always quick with the calpol as I am for paracetamol for me though.

Hope your feeling better soon Willyou and Nut

Tedder H has a bath at 7pm every night. And then she is allowed to play until i start noticing her sleep cues which are that her pupils go tiny and she loses her temper abit. As soon as i see them i make her bottle and take her to bed i read her a story whilst giving her a bottle, and then she normally decides to climb on my lap to finish the bottle and i end up rocking her to sleep whilst she listens to music. If she starts fidgeting in the night it normally means her nappies wet. If i time it right she doesn't wake up whilst i change her bum, but if i don't shes awake for a while. Could your DS be the same and be waking due to a wet nappy?

Spotty has your DP gone a little bit crazy because christmas is coming up? Most of my friends are men i grew up with them and at christmas all they want to so is go on nights out. Despite the fact that alot of them have children. Usually the wives/girlfriends are left to sort out the children. Btw they all play football every weekend in the same team and alot of pressure is put on them to be one of the boys and not be under the thumb despite most of them being either 30 odd or close to it.

Beasty, your DD has made a good career choice.

This us the longest night EVER! We've slept for under an hour do far and he's spent the rest of the time wailing. He's had everything else he can have, his temps come down for now but he's got into a rhythm of screaming and doesn't seem able to stop. We're watching ugly Betty before I go out if my tiny little mind. which reminds me - he keeps biting my sternum as I rock him, not cool!

Hales I think they'd get on well

WillYou is a trip to the drs needed today? If you can put something warm on his ear (hot water bottle) it will help with the pain.

Morning all. Have been reading but not posting for a while.

Happy birthday to all those celebrating recently.

Welcome Tedder, you've come to the right place o share tales of random sleep patterns.

spotty you have my sympathies. I also have a DP who seems to live in his own world sometimes. I usually lose him to golf or rugby. This week though he decided he was going o the cinema one afternoon/evening. He eventually understood why I was pissed off & agreed that if he coukd afford to take 3 hours off work he coukd o it so I could have a break (& get Christmas wrapping done!). He ended up taking 45 mins off

I get 'well x,yandz have children and their partners don't moan at them for playing football and going out' blah blah blah

Oh, and we've been up since 4am. Her early wakings have become utterly ridiculous and I don't know what to do about it. Her daytime sleep has also gone to crap. But she hasn't been particularly grumpy about it. I on the other hand....I am fed up. Hate being short tempered with dd1 but every day is so long. It majestic everything such a hard task.

Sorry, have barged back in with an all about me post

willyou I'm sorry you've had a rough night. Think I'd be tempted to get him checked at dr's after a night like that.

^^ Majestic?! Nothing majestic about it.....'it makes...'!

I'm hoping the worst is over. He's much more responsive than yesterday. Has eaten breakfast and isn't crying. He's also beating the crap out if the telly whenever he gets chance.

A full day of cbeebies on the cards I think. I hope to god he naps, we only slept 6-9 in the end. We've missed our nursery settling in visit

willyou I know too many people here who would first suggest a cut up onion wrapped in a cloth to help with earache. After all antibiotics are evil, dontchakno (weird Germans)

spotty I occasionally get that from DH but on the whole he is great and we work as a team. He has been fantastic helping to look after DP the last few days while I lounged recovered by staying in bed longer. This morning I let him go back to bed for an hour (the joy of working from home).

DS still has a bit of diarrhoea, but he seems to be eating and drinking relatively normally for him (lots of bread and carbs). The dr suggested some rehydration salt type things. They come in apple and banana flavour for small people.

lazza I don't have any advice really but I find bad naps and bad nighttime sleep seem to just make everything worse. The better DS naps during the day the better he sleeps at night.