The posifrikentivity graduates thread - we did it!!

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Finally enough graduates (with more very imminently expected) to have our very own little thread. Yay. :)

Well, it's kinda always been runny! It's occasionally a little more, erm, seedy?! But mostly just runny. I've been reading baby centre, it got me freaked that runny means she is poorly. I need to stay away from the internet don't i!!

Oh poor Matilda. Hope she stays not too bad, or gets better even!

Does anyone have ideas what to get babies for Christmas? Are you just getting usual stuff, or something sentimental for them to keep? I thought about getting the 2013 Swarovski Christmas ornament, but DH thinks it is pointless tat. Anyone had any genius ideas of what to get?

Pink I'm sure I've read breast milk babies poo is always runnier than ff babies. So I'm sure it's ok if she seems to be feeding etc. maybe just keep a log (for want of a better word ha) of them if you're concerned and then check with hv or doc?

I wasn't sure what to do about as for Leo, originally we decided that he'd never know if we hadn't got him something but now that he's here I think I'd like to get him a nice keepsake. Something that would always remind us of our first family Christmas.

Bump sorry to hear Matilda is getting the schuffles, Leo has had the sneezes since birth and I'm hoping it doesn't develop into something more.

He got a dummy earlier. Best bloody invention ever.

That's great Janie, hope tonight is better!

I've just started little man on the infacol after a day of screaming when put down....failing to get any wind up at the mo though

Pink their pooh can also change as a result of what you are eating, for example if you have been drinking a lot of fresh orange juice it acts as a bit of an 'unblocker' for baby (a good thing to remember for if they are constipated!)

Get well soon Matilda...ooh just remembered a cold tip (full of drivel tonight), put vapour rub on the soles of their feet, I think they are too young for the Vics one but can use Boots own brand from 3mths (not quite there yet I know but something to bear in mind!). Or I used to put some baby olbas oil on a muslin at the end of the cot.

Laters! X

Oh good tips garden thanks! I was a bit congested in hospital and had peppermint oil on a tissue and it really helped me!

I confess I also bought a pump earlier. Just for emergencies. Feel better already for having it! He's on the boob now, had been for an hour. Not really sure how long tonight will last!!

Good to be prepared Janie...I've got one too (somewhere!). Mine has been on the boob most of the day, hence the infacol as it was mainly for comfort as he wouldn't settle. Luckily he's just had 3 hrs sleep and if I can just get the flippin wind out I may get another 3! Ooh infacol - that's another thing to have at home ready just in case, grab some next time you are in the supermarket if you haven't already

Great I'll get some in for sure! What would I do without you guys!? No seriously!?!?

Leo keeps getting the hiccups, I asked the mw about it and said it was more traumatic for me than for him.

He's just been on for just over an hour but let himself off there. I heard that leaving them for 20mins in bf position before putting them into the Moses basket allows them to go into a deep sleep so not as likely to waken when they're lifted. Let's see if that works!

Janie couple things - the sneezing is just something newborns do. It's because their airways are so small, it's their way of keeping all their tubes clear. Especially after they come off the boob apparently (I googled)
And the hiccups- Imogen gets them really badly too. Little bit more milk tends to fix it, or if you can't put him back on, the dummy. Helps to get them back into regular breathing- and I agree it sounds horrific!

Okay so the latest idea for Christmas present that I have cone up with - silver piggy bank? Practical yet keepsake-y?

Ah that makes sense pink, he was very mucousy when he was born sou was hoping it was still just that.

I can't believe he's a week old today. This is going way too quickly for my liking. I might take him for some cake to celebrate

Hi all. Found you again! Seemed to go missing off the list!
So ideas for keep sake presents: harrods Bear
2013, 2013 commemorative silver penny (made for Prince George) no idea what it costs though. Liking the money box idea. My mum has bought both my DC money boxes at birth. Not silver ones though.
Garden great advice on the feeding. I'm still struggling away at it and hoping my nipples will become less sensitive and I will improve in the latch as time goes on! Charlotte is 17 days old today! Janie it is going really fast isn't it! I like the idea of cake very much! It's DH birthday today and I've not actually got him anything at all yet! Even a card! A trip into town it is this morning once I've taken DS to nursery. I failed miserably at getting him there on time yesterday! Thankfully they were understanding. So time for me to start getting ready now to make sure we make a better effort today! Typically Charlotte is now snoozing after a feed and I want to go back to sleep :( boo hiss I am not good with this lack of sleep thing! DH does my head in moaning he's tired and be sleeps in another room at the moment with a full nights sleep every night! I've been getting into both out dc! Have you all registered your babies yet?

DH registered her yesterday. So cute seeing the birth certificate!
My DH has also been moaning about lack if sleep. We had got into a routine where he did the last feed of the day - at about 11ish so that I could go to bed at 10 and get an extra couple hours. Yesterday- he was too tired. And 'the cat was sat on him and he didn't want to disturb him as he's been really unsettled recently'. Wtf?! I was still am fuming, and now, as a result, tired. Boo his.
I've done all my chrimbo shopping for DH over the last 2 nights of feeds. Amazing.

Oh the poor dh's! Mine would come to hospital and moan about being too tired. Once he actually asked could he have a sleep In the bed ffs! Eh no?!? But on 2 days he fell asleep on the big chair leaving me just sitting there (in a prison cell for 5 days with a broken tv and no one to talk to equals angry Janie). He's at it again now we're home ffs! Don't think men we're built for this and don't seem willing to adapt very well. I make dh get up in the night to do the nappies so I don't have to get out of bed, think that's working ok now.

Ah wee Leo and I are having a nice lie in this morning, he was surprisingly good last night, definitely celebrating with cake today!

Lucky, happy birthday to your dh, I'm sure he'll understand if you haven't got something for him! Order a nice takeaway or something ;)

Laughing out loud at out DH's! Think we need to laugh or we may cry! What is with them! At least your DH gets up to do something in the night Janie! Think my DH has only changed about 8 nappies altogether. He makes such a mess up of it and calls me to help that I just may as well do it myself in the first place!
I was late getting DS to school for 2nd day in a row! Bubba keeps deciding she needs a feed at the time I need to go! Nearly school holidays now though which means il have DS to entertain too. Bring on the coffee!
We registered Charlotte last week. Must sort the Drs registration now too. Anyone here have that wonder weeks book? I was wandering when the first growth spurt is. Charlotte has been feeding all morning! Am waiting for her to sleep so I can grab an hour! Good to hear Leo was a good boy last night Janie. What did he sleep?

Lucky we all went to bed at about11 last night then he woke up at 2.30am then 6am and 10am for feeds. When I put him down I set my alarm for 3.5 or 4hrs time so I can wake him if he doesn't wake himself. It worked 2 out if the 3 nights we've been home, with the exception of witching hour night in between! I'm hoping it's not a good night/ bad night game he's playing or else I'm screwed tonight!!

Wow Janie that's great. Especially good for a baby on breast milk. I'm very jealous! Charlotte seems to be up evey hour and a half and then stays up feeding for about an hour! In shattered! Touch wood she doesn't really cry much though and is a much easier baby than DS was.

He goes on each boob for half an hour each roughly then he usually falls asleep. I let him lie there for about another half hour to ensure he's in a deep sleep before putting him in his Moses basket. Seems to have worked except for demon night. Going to try to keep him awake this evening so hopefully he won't do crazy night again.

MW is coming out again tmro morning and I'm so hoping he's put on weight, he hadn't gained when they checked him on Monday. Anyone know what happens if he hasn't gained?

We never made it out for cake today :( had 2 separate unexpected visitors, one friend brought her 2 kids who we're pawing all over Leo and poking his face. I was getting really pissed off with their grubby school hands. Luckily dh was here and he lifted Leo and just stood up with him so they weren't poking his eyes out! Grr!

janie if they're worried they'll watch you feeding and check the latch etc and get you to do a feeding diary. They may also refer you to a bf counsellor.

My favourite keepsake presents are from www.lovekeepcreate.co.uk - they make blankets and soft toys out of baby clothes. I've been putting to one side the clothes that mean something to me - first babygro, clothes for going home in, first proper clothes etc and then you send them off and they send you the finished item back. Won't be back in time for Christmas now, but they won't know it wasn't there on the day in years to come. I'm getting blankets as I figure they'll get more use over the years than a toy that gets discarded or loved to pieces. I've also kept outfits that we've got photos of them in so they can match them up when they're older.

Thanks anda. He is pooing and peeing lots which is a positive for me, I think I'll cry if they tell he I'm doing it all wrong, I'd feel really bad as if I wasn't looking after him properly :( but we'll see.

Anda I was thinking of you earlier and I have to tell you I think you're a complete star. Having two little munchkins must make you Wonder Woman! I salute you

Thank you janie. I'm not Wonder Woman though. I'm knackered, and teary and feel very alone and 'not good enough'.

I'm not sure if I said but my second period made the Laura Ashley period pale into insignificance. I'd really hoped it was a one off but period 3 is going the same way. Just another thing to cope with.

15 weeks of not sleeping for more than three consecutive hours and I've had enough. It was getting better but now all I want to do is stamp my feet and cry because I can't cope and feeling like a failure all the time is exhausting.

Sorry, for the rant. Bad day/night/week/month

Aw anda sweetie you are doing a bloody amazing job, i feel like I need to be an octopus just with one baby. You deserve a medal. Have you anyone who would babysit them both for you so you could have a night off or is it too soon?

I am preempting another demon night tonight with me Leo. He won't stop yelping and my tits are empty, he will only latch on the right. He's been feeding since 9.15 except for my 3 minute shallow tea tree bath (to try in a vague attempt to heal my nethers). He's also had 4 dirty nappies since 9!

He was just crying so much I ended up stripping him down to his nappy as he was getting so hot and flustered. If he ever does drift off then there's no chance I can try to dress him again as he'll be awake in no time. Aaaarrrggghhhh is it a full moon tonight perhaps?!

Can i just wrap him in an extra blanket instead of dressing him again?!

Oh he's now decided the left one isn't do awful after all. It's gonna be a loooong night

Oh diet. You poor thing. I think we all have good days and bad days where we feel like that. Usually directly related to how much sleep has been had. And you must get it twice as bad! You ARE doing amazingly. All this stuff that we are all moaning about and struggling with- you are doing it with two! I am in awe of how you manage. I keep repeating to myself, hard times won't last forever. There will be a point (somewhere) in the future where it gets easier. I don't know where! But there will. Keep going. We all think you are a legend x

Janie. Hope your demon night got better!

Ou how annoying. I posted a massive post around 3.00 and it's gone! Oh well. It kind if said Anda I'm sure you are doing a fantastic job. I can't imagine having 2 small babies to cope with. Do you have practical support from family / friends. If not there are agencies which maybe of interest such as home start. TAMBA may also be able to offer support and advice from parents with twins and multiple babies. As Pink said it will get easier.
Janie - I'm sure if Leo was hungry he would not go so long between feeds. Hopefully when he next get weighed he will have put weight on. It's normal for them to loose at first.
Been a long night for feeds here. So very tired. Must think about getting up and sorted for the school run now !

Phew he's put on 6oz!! Not surprised after the abuse he's been giving my tits! Woop!

Ooh Janie that's fab. Remind me, how old is he now?

oh anda I really feel for you, there is a reason that sleep deprivation is used as torture. Everything is so much worse without sleep, I have no experience of twins and can't imagine how hard it is with two but you are doing all you can for them so please never feel like a failure. Babies are bloody hard work and you are doing double the work of most. If you have people you can ask for help then do. I know how hard it is to do this as I'm a control freak and I insisted on doing everything for DD1, I can give good advice though!

janie sounds like you are doing it right after all we put so much pressure on ourselves and expect all these new skills to just come to us naturally through instinct and then blame ourselves if they don't. Imagine if we approached driving or learning to read like this! I'm not just directing this at you janie I'm just thinking aloud really as I'm very much guilty of doing this.

Just sat watching Love Actually with Matilda asleep on my knee and my very nearly 3 year old lovely toddler asleep next to me on the sofa, dog asleep on the floor and DH on the other sofa! If only I could freeze frame and keep the house like this for a bit