The 6th Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus - this way ladies.

[FrussoHathor]

Welcome aboard our 6th bus ladies.

Hey :) Just wanted to say thanks for the other night. Still don't know what the problem was, no epic poo or anything followed the evening's drama, but she's back to her smiley self.

Yay to having a happy baby again places

Phew, glad it's sorted itself out places Poor little gal. It's hard when they're feeling cranky and we're equally feeling the stress!

Yes, 4x to feed over night. I'm thinking it's a growth spurt and I really hope not teeth too . We went to the Ren Fest today and she wanted to feed constantly and was grumbling the rest of the time. Praying for sleep tonight!

Poor frus hard when it's against the law to hit someone for being a dumb ass person and not helping out, isn't it? I feel for you.

Better night bring?
Kitten keeps tricking me with the odd night, she's had 2 good nights, one til 8 and yesterday til 6:15. I start to think maybe she's ok sleeping through again then last night 4:45 again she was like a hungry lion last night aswell

Frus jnr had a feeding frenzy last night too. And dd2 woke. Then DH alarm went off. Then mine. Anyone have any match sticks? There was clearly too much sleep and not enough night.

This is day 3 of no poo for kitten, she's trumping quite alot, I'm a little afraid

Haha oh dear kitty a poosplosion is brewing at your house!

Technically she didn't sleep through last night. She went down at 7 and then woke up at 9:30 for a feed and then slept until 6 this morning. Since I wasn't in bed yet, I count it as sleeping-through

frus I hope you can get in a nap today!

9.30 until 6 is amazing.

If DS goes down after bath at 8.30 then he'll probably wake twice, around 1 and again around 3.30/4. If he goes down later around 10/10.30 then he'll probably only wake once, around 4. He gender wakes for the day around 7.30.

Yeah bring I'd still be pretty happy with that as its not woken you up, easier to handle then 3,4,5 times, still no poo, boy I'm not looking forward to what's to come, I bet it's because we have given her some formula felt I'd try to give 1 top up of milk to see if hungr is our culprit that can be eased with milk but she doesn't like it, today chocked coughed spat it out and practically whimpered for boob, poor mite, made me feel worse as I hated giving it to her but often my boobs just don't feel there's enough in them, she's still woken anyway and is now bunged up aswell

Hmm, yep, that definitely sounds like it would be the culprit, kitty A whole different type of digestion process for formula. Hope she passes it soon and that it's not a giant mess! Even thought they (boobs) don't feel like they've got enough, they do. Cluster feeding sucks and it's not fun being tied to a couch to feed a little person, but keep offering the breast and you shall keep making milk. A beer with hops in it in the evenings can help keep you going, as can milk-enhancing herbal teas. Or even just making sure you're getting enough water in the afternoons (like a litre) can ensure that you have enough fluids in you to keep up with the demands in the evenings/nights.

That's a nice schedule Lor Sounds like he's pretty predictable, which is nice!

How is everyone today?

So excited! Off to talk with a new midwife about prospect long-term apprenticeship.

It's quiet on the bus!

That sounds exciting bring! How did it go?

I'm still having feeding issues. He was weighed yesterday & is still tailing off, exactly as DS1 did. HV said to just keep monitoring it for now. MBL can't help me now he's older than 12 weeks & said she doesn't think it'll be a TT issue because "it really was very mild". I'm giving up on hoping to donate to the milkbank now. Maybe next time! I'll be barricading myself in my house & going back to constant skin-to-skin might need to put the heating on & trying to get him to feed more often. That's if DS1 will let me. My carpet is currently covered in multicoloured rice because he decided to sprinkle his "powder" around. He's been ever so good at keeping it in the giant cardboard box while DH has been around. I think he thinks he'll get away with it while I'm feeding DS2. Once I'm done I shall make him pick every piece up individually... It'll be good for his fine motor skills. I won't really, I'll terrify him with the hoover instead... That'll teach him!

Lol! I vote for scaring him into never doing it again with the hoover.

I wonder what the deal is, Agnu? Sounds so odd that your milk production has declined so severely and that he's not gaining. Is the latch still feeling totally off?

It is really quiet on the bus.... wonder where everyone is?

It went fantastic! New apprenticeship! Starting in a few weeks. With one of my dream midwives to work with as well. Very very happy

Yeay bring, that sounds fantastic!
Agnu dd is afraid of the "who der" aswell lol it would put her off doing it again, she keeps using the feeds or time alone to draw on anything she can, first walls, now herself
Aside from that, we are all good
Kitten still waking grr, I've not even had her weighed yet bad mummy but will definatly she lies go next week! She's starting to properly chunk out though

I'm lurking. Things are not good in the frussohold. [stressed] [cant cope any more]

Oh frus. Hope everything is ok. Do vent if you need to.

Frus, hope your ok x

Is it DD2 Frus? Have they sorted her school transport yet? You'd think they could at least try to give her what she needs! Oh, & you can do it. You are exactly what your children need. This phase won't last forever. We're always here when you need to mentally escape for a bit! Maybe it's time the bus had a makeover. I'm thinking we need a TV corner playing daft rom-coms with beanbags, cushions, blankets, popcorn & ice cream. & lockable doors to keep reality out!

Frus, sweetheart, I've been lurking for weeks now, and it does make me feel better to know that there is friendship and people out there in a similar, if not the same, boat.

Sorry things are tough, you've been a good friend to all of us these months. We can be friends back, if not actual practical help then you can always vent your frustrations and worries here.... Or if you prefer just rock and peep and we will gently rub your back and then put the kettle on .

Thanks ladies. . agnu Yes. And no. In that order.
I can't vent on a public forum. learnt that before it's a really simple problem that should be really simple to fix. But its not my job to fix it. my anxiety can't deal with it anymore. I feel like I'm teetering on the brink.

But what upsets me the most is that ds is being so good and putting up with so much. And I just want to spend what's left of my maternity leave trying to rebond with him after the uber stressful holidays.

Have you considered going to the GP about the stress/anxiety? I wish there was something I could do to help... Maybe you could PM us all their phone number & we could take turns harassing them on an hourly basis until they sort it out for you?!

I have agnu. Also been having panic attacks But she doesn't want to give me beta-blockers whilst Breastfeeding.

Ooh now there's an idea. Then we can all get through to an automated hang-up speech message. if one you actually gets through to an actual person to be able to harass them, I will buy them a bottle of champers.

Watching Bugsy Malone. That's educational right? more so than hello kitty

Oh my goodness ds will not go to sleep. He's tired and whinging and won't sleep.

There's lots of PS&E learning to be done from Bugsy! & music which helps with mathematical learning or you could count the number of people who get splurged or discuss the history of speak-easies & the American culture or the race issues or role of women just as entertainment.... There's learning opportunities to be found everywhere if you look hard enough!

I'm utterly flabbergasted that people who know next to nothing about us have decided we're 'cotton wool' parents! We're also inexperienced because we're "So young". We're 27/28 which is a lot older than his 19yo daughter with a child a similar age to DS1. That's if you ignore my much younger sister who I looked after a lot, my nannying jobs, my level 5 in childhood development, my research project of the benefits of forest schools... Yes, we're cotton wool parents because we want to be able to leave the toddlers unattended on the patio, rather than letting them potter around digging up our vegetables. Let's just gloss over the bit where I'm planning to homeschool so they can do all their learning from the top of a tree. Or the fact that I actively encourage my nearly 2yo to help peel carrots. My entire parenting philosophy is to teach them to take risks safely, not to stop them doing anything! DS1 has been climbing up & down stairs since he could walk. We make sure someone's with him but we want him to be safe to do it himself! I've always been concerned that people might think we're not careful enough with them. It horrifies me that people who are just judging us on our garden have decided that means we're over-protective! I'll get over it & remember I don't care what other people think...!

It's because Bugsy has got him too excited Frus. He just doesn't want to miss any of it! I might have to go watch it too! I love Bugsy!