The 6th Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus - this way ladies.

[FrussoHathor]

Welcome aboard our 6th bus ladies.

2nd lot of injections went a lot better then the first lot...thank The Lord!

kitty I wrote you a reply this morning. And must have forgotten to press post.

I'll try again.
Not a rod, a bargaining tool. Just do what all manipulative parents do and move the goal posts.
1 potty poo = poo rabbit.
1 week of potty poo = poo rabbit.
2 weeks of potty poo = poo rabbit.
Or use chocolate buttons. (Singular, so 1 poo=1 button, you could sell it as bunny food for the bunny in her tummy, unless of course she would freak out a bunny in tummy or demand the bunny is fed)
And a sticker reward chart in bathroom to mark progress. 5 stickers = reward. And then when it is achieved extend the number of stickers needed for the reward.

We used to use chocolate as a bribe for various things for dd2, until she decided that she didn't like chocolate. And refused to be bribed with it.

I really want chocolate buttons now after reading your post Frus I've not had chocolate for a while because I'm watching what I eat when breastfeeding. I miss it!

We did switch to buttons frus but when I went to one she looked at me like I was mad, then said more! Lol
It did look measly so I gave her 4 but obviously if she does a few she's ingesting quite abit of chocolate, the bunny was a Thornton one and was big!! She ate it in one go and refused to save any, she loves chocolate, ill add a pic to show you it is very funny
Pear you are putting us all to shame, I've gorged on chocolate every day

I got given a box of chocs today. It would have been rude to refuse.

This chocolate talk is torture Damn reflux!!!!! I'm having a chocolate/wine/cheese party in approx 3 months time! Which nicely coincides with Xmas

Mmmmmmmmmm. CHOCOLATE. Why must you taunt me so?

I feel like a mad scientist on my computer in the past 24 hrs. I've been selling off some of M's cloth nappies (so tons of emails, pictures, and paypal schtuff) and I'm the organizer of a birth worker-related workshop coming up in Nov (why, oh why did I agree to do this!?) so I've been on fb pretty much non-stop. I need a technology break. My kids are being neglected. ooops.

Ds is being a whingy baby. He's tired and won't go to sleep. Aahhh. I feel a bit of Tim Minchen coming on.

I had to google this Tim M bloke as I had no idea who you're talking about...still don't

tim minchen just for pear
was seriously the song of my evening last night. Why ds can't just go to sleep when he's tired. probably because he was struggling to nap yesterday
I have a £10 Argos voucher, I wonder if they have any cot mobiles at my local Argos.

Psst... kitty, my phone is telling me that Megan's jabs are tomorrow!

Poor Megan. I wonder if Megan has actually had any of her jabs?
Or if her mum is sitting at home thinking "who on earth is kitten?"

I'm on strike. I am not doing a thing for DH or DDs until they all buck up their attitudes, take responsibility for their owb things and their own mess, and stop treating me like a doormat and talking to me like shit.
And in other news I h e a headache, again,
and I think jnrs grumbling is teething like baby pear pear so I'm armed with nelsons and calgel. and am hiding sulking in my room with ds, whilst DH is making dd tidying up downstairs.

Frus you are being treated like shit while I am cleaning it out of dd1s pants, nice!
I'm not sure if Megan has had any jabs but kitten has had one set and I'm determined to get her there tomorrow, determined I tell you!!!

Hi ladies, thanks for your kind replies, Trumpets, weirdly, I'm almost better when I go to a group, it gives me a reason t get up and dressed and I'm much happier when I'm out and about, it's when I'm stuck at home that I panic and feel inadequate and anxious.

I went t the Docs again today for my follow up and explained how the Anti-d's had made me feel, so we are trying a non drug approach. I'm taking Pregnacare Breastfeeding Vitamins to make sure I have enough Iron and B12 in me, that comes with a fish oil supplement too. Trumpets if you have any good info about using vitamins and suplements ti support mood id be interested in it. i was considering consulting a medical herbalist I know to enquire abt St Johns Wort or ither herbs ti make sure they are breastfeeding safe but im sticking with the Oregnacare for now as i know that it is.

I'm also making sure I get outside every day and see trees and eating/drinking enough...simple things but important for feeling better. If I can squeeze in a postnatal yoga then that's good too.

Finally the Doc has told me about MoodGym which is a free online CBT course which is can do at home so I'm going to give that a go.

I actually feel better for just admitting that I felt bad if that makes any sense. My Terrible Secret isn't that terrible, isn't really a secret and is comfortingly common.

Ps, I love Poo Bunny!

Also, how is it that our babies are teething already. N only got to sleep this rounding when I rubbed her lower gums with my thumb!

I don't know lib it seems far too early. Especially when you think at this time last year we weren't even pregnant.
Ds is 15weeks already hush don't tell DH and DH is already commenting about "giving him flavoured water" and "different tastes" I'm not having any of it. We started weaning dd1 at 16wks because DH wanted to b/c that was what he did with his dd. and I had bad PND and couldn't even tell him it was a crap idea I refuse to let it happen again with ds. b/c dd1 has so many food issues so I'm not telling him how old ds is he's too lazy to work it out himself

I started dd1 at 17wks too frus although I still think it was right for her at the time, only a few spoonfuls of baby rice with milk once a day but still, dd2 is 15this wkend, I want to drag it out as long as possible and will definatly not do it unless she really seems to need more but I can't see us getting to 6 months, for me I think 5 is about perfect to start, what have the other mums on here done?

kitty dd2 was 6.5mths. And I much preferred not blitzing food into mush. or faffing about sterilising things all the time
Have you seen the spoon attachment things that go on the baby food packs. here I'm not sure about how hygienic they are, unless baby eats the whole pouch.

But I still think the best thing in the world is the look on ds's face when I get my boobs out ready to feed him. It just seems to say, yippee you're going to feed me, oh I love you mum.

Eek! Yeah, no food for the littles yet. I think it used to be that they could start eating at 4 months? Oh those Dhs always get so excited for solids (mine was just commenting on not being able to wait to start giving foods too).

Glad to hear that you're able to find things that do help Lib Excellent news. (don't mind me, I'm a total introvert, so groups things aren't my cup of tea). Yeah a herbalist or a naturopath would be great resources for figuring out your body composition so as to know which herbs and supplements would work best for you. Traditional Chinese Medicine could be really beneficial as well.

Sorry to hear frus F'n frustrating when they seem to "forget" that you don't exist to cater to others. I'm also waiting for Dh to start saying "mum" b/c even he's asking me stupid q's like: where is my xyz? should I put nappy rash cream on this rash? how do you turn on the washing machine? ffs, figure it out old man!

Will someone please turn off the flippin heat outside? The allergies are killing me and 95 degrees with 1232132% humidity plus mega winds DO NOT HELP. I sneeze 2343 times every 10 minutes and my eyes are practically swollen shut. Somebody please give me some sympathy. I'm dying over here even in my air conditioned house

Ds1 was about 5 months old, Ds2 was about 7 months old (he was a boob man for as long as possible), and I'm going to just wait until at least 6 months to introduce anything for M. I just feel like it makes things so much more complicated when food starts getting involved. You actually have to pack things for the day when you go out (food, bib, spoon, change of clothes, etc) right now it's just boobs (yep, got those) and a spit up rag (yep, my shirt).

Gris I never steralized any food things?? What did you do?
I gave dd alot of finger foods as baby led weening is all the rage now so didn't have to purée everything although I did alot and made alot, infact the first things she loved were bread sticks and orange segments lol
Bring > dh's are bloody useless, mine always asks where something is while saying its not until I come over and get it from yes the place I told him

We started DS1 on baby rice at 17 weeks because he wasn't gaining weight being breastfed because he has a PTT. Just before that we were invited to take part in a study looking at introducing common allergens before 6m after there was a study done in another country Norway? Sweden? which suggested that babies were more likely to develop allergies if certain foods were introduced later. I'd have loved to participate mad scientist but they wouldn't have accepted us with his weight issues.
Not sure what we'll do this time. I doubt it'll be 17w but we'll probably let him play with the occasional carrot stick before 6m! I'm actually kinda looking forward to being able to introduce food for fun. Last time the HVs told me exactly how I should be shoving rice into him. One told me to offer it between feeds, another said to give it as a top-up & the third made me feel stupid by insisting that DS1 wouldn't want the rice if we gave it after he always did so we must give it first.

I can't stop obsessing about DS1's tongue now. Sometimes when he pokes it out in a certain way it definitely has a heart-shape to it. I've managed to have a little look & can see that there's a more obvious tie than DS2's. No idea if we should do anything about it now though. He mispronounces some sounds like 'f' instead of 'sm' but not all the time & I don't know at what point it'll be considered a delay. He has a wide vocabulary for his age & generally speaks clearly enough to be understood by others. I'm investigating whether there's any insurance we could get that would enable us to have it lasered if it does develop into an issue! Also looking into getting insurance with a view to getting his lip-tie done before his adult teeth come in since it is causing gapping. No idea if they'd class it as a 'pre-existing condition'. Will be making DH make some phone calls to find out!

RIGHT!? Kitty It's ridiculous. MEN

I never sanitized anything. Fingers foods for both boys. Just a little of whatever we were eating (within reason of course). I remember that I pureed a few things for ds2 b/c he didn't seem to get very much of his fingers foods into his mouth just to help him along and get full. I just skipped the baby rice for #2 and I think we'll do the same again for M.

With dd1 we sterilised everything spoons, bowls, the little cubes I froze the stuff in. Started her on baby porridge just typo-d that at pissage, oops and baby rice, sweet potatoe, fruit purées, banana.
Dd2 started on cocktail sausages and apples (BLW, and that's what she chose to shove in her mouth eat.) was always a worry as she couldn't hold her head without support or have any teeth. Skipped all the mushy stuff (except mash potatoes) as she just wasn't interested.

agnu DH has TT (not Submucosal) and has the forked tongue. But it's not a bad one like some of the pictures you see. And oddly has straighter teeth than I do (and I had a brace).
Dd2 has massive teeth, and was (is) a wobbly walker. She cut and recut her own Lip tie blood everywhere when she started walking. I think I'm going to wait and see if ds cuts his. down to timing of learning to walk with having only 2 bottom teeth or if it affects his teeth.
I'm not sure if dd2s LT has caused any gaping in her adult teeth, (she has yet to loose the baby ones) and has bumped her teeth/face so many times it hard to tell whether their positioning is due to LT or knocks. and i dont think gaping baby teeth necessarily means gaping adult teeth. although that would also depend on gum shape