Dec 11: Not tonight dear, I've got a haddock.

[PerilousStiletto]

I liked this one. :)

Kat what a lovely name

Xiao your bump isn't too big all nice and neat.

All these lovely babies are making me broody.

My girls are driving me insane at night...feel like a yoyo :(

Seven, cakes are going well thank you..will be making some more cuppys today, chocolate & mint and going to try apple & cinnamon too.

Re decoration YouTube are great and the local cake supply shop run workshops. I'm going to one on 21st August to learn the art of vintage cupcake decoration. Have my business cards on there way to me and have been asked to attend a friends craft fair in Nov so all good thanks.

Aethel sleep is clearly not for us...:(

Minimopsy woke at 4.45 but-total miracle-fell asleep again at 5.20 and slept until nearly half seven! woohoo! have been getting up at 5.45 for weeks!

Ooh congrats mopsy for the "lie-in"!

It's ok when I'm not working and don't have too much scheduled. I'm more about when I return to work though, I absolutely must be on the ball when working, and so I will make compromises in my own quality of life to ensure I can be fully fit (eg if nights are bad go to bed v early at the expense of leisure time for me/time with DH)

I think I may trawl the web for some advice re DD2, I'm fairly sure this is simple bedwetting and not illness, and she's still not yet six so it's considered "normal" but I really don't want her going back into night nappies at this stage (she's agreed to pull-up Dri-nights for our holiday, but she's refused night nappies since she was aged two....we're both tired of 3am sheet changes and the sleep disturbance can't be helping her either....

Oh dear aethel. Hope you find a solution. I've just been and had my bloods done. Been soooo exhausted for past six weeks or so. Like way more than normal interrupted sleep/running around after toddler exhaustion. So I thought I'd just get checked. Is probably nothing. Hope not. But would like not to feel like a zombie again!

I'm joining the no sleep crew with aethel and Queenie! DS is having a couple of off days, I'm going to blame teething as I don't have a clue what's up. He's been waking all through the night screaming, takes ages to settle then repeat after about 20 mins of sleep. Not eaten anything today or yesterday, just wants milk. He's usually so chilled out so its been a shock to the system.

He had his last day in baby room at nursery this week. From next week he will be in wobbler room

Hope you manage to find some ideas to help with DD2 Aethel, must be very tiring for her if its disturbing her sleep alot.

Hope you're feeling better soon Mopsy, btw your weekend away sounded amazing!

Feel better soon Mopsy.

Hope you find a solution for DD2 Aethel.

Hoping the girls go to bed and sleep well tonight, although I will have a couple of hrs child free tomorrow to make cupcakes sleep!

You know when you eating your lunch in the car on the way home at 5pm youve had a busy day!!

Ds has a girlfriend at CMs shes 5 months younger than him the little strumpet they walk around holding hands apparently. We have a new word today .......tractor they've been to local adventure farms twice this week so hes picked it up.

Another evening dh free he is off to a committee meeting for his bird watching group (yes I mean of the feathered variety) so tonight in gonna watch sharknado with a glass of wine

Figgy....sharknado?? How sweet that Figgyboy has a girlfriend :)

Darcie is staying at Nanny's tonight and Sky is already in bed, so am hoping I may actually get some sleep tonight.

will post proper when not covered in ds2 but my profile should be clicky now,,think mn had a wobble last night.

A beautiful name for a beautiful girl kat

xiao we had this afternoon tea We went for the honey one, which was lovely, although we were a bit honeyed out by the end of it and would probably go for the other one if we went again.

I hope the bloods come back OK mopsy, and that you're feeling much better soon. I had a spell like that last year. Bloods all came back fine and I eventually started feeling more human again!

Wishing everyone a better night tonight

Ah, Gary the pics were worth the wait, he's gorgeous

Thank you GBT and Kat, they are of course beautiful, and the wonderful hair! Imogen is a beautiful name; my friend had already got it for her daughter but I also like Isobel.

Sympathies aethel, that sounds trying, and I know exactly what you mean about the work/sleep/quality of life/being on the ball thing. It's grim, but the sleep must come first to ensure that there are no foul ups at work as they just can't happen. So has DD2 just started up again for some as-yet-unidentified reason? I'm sure you'll have ruled out UTI, etc. Hope it sorts.

Hope you get the results through soon mopsy and it's 'just' tiredness and/or something easy like needing iron tablets. Really sorry to hear about your DH too figgy; they're all auto-immune inflammatory thingys in the same 'family' of ailments, including gout. What treatment is your DH currently on? There are lots of things out there that can be used to suppress it, but fingers crossed he gets a formal diagnosis and treatment soon. So sorry, I know how tough those illness are

Your first trip sounds utterly glam as ever Peril, enjoy the champers!

How're you getting on BRJ? I take it DS is still in the same nursery, so you got the problems with the nappies, etc sorted? You're certainly sounding more cheerful so I hope that's the case

Ah, Friday tomorrow, deep, deep joy.............

On phone, must do proper catch up tomorrow. Loving all the new babies, and the lovely bump! Imogen is a beautiful name.

Peril, am also dying of period for annoying uteri.

Having babies messes with your nogin. Re reading a book atm (jilly Cooper, polo. Stop judging me!!) And a small child is all adorable and then dies and I'm totally choking up reading it. I used to be cynical and hard as nails. Now I am reduced to a snivelling wreck at the John Lewis Christmas ads. I'm getting old.

back to Hop, ditto on the weeping at children/sad things/adverts. The awful thing is I used to take the piss out of my Mum for this, and remember doing so, and I'm now the saaaaaaaaame!

also secret Jilly Cooper fan for holidays, high quality trash

I have just finished work for the week that is not cool!! I never did get round to sharknado.

Hiya.... We know what set dD2 off northern, she'd been fully dry for six months and then we needed to move house. It started the day the for-sale sign went up outside our house :( six months in and she's better, but we still have 30-40% wet beds and that's with a lift/wakeup to wee at 10.30pm. She has some weeks where she's dry for three pr four days in a row, but never dry for the whole week. Days are fine, she just doesn't wake up. I googled the NICE guidelines and they say the best thing after simple checking re fluids/constipation is a bed alarm, so when we get back from hols I'll look into getting one of those. We were just hoping to wait it out and not medicalise it (her wee is fine, I've had that checked more than once) but I think it's making her tired now and that's not fair.

On a family sleepover: dDs upstairs with cousins, DS has settled nicely in his travel cot tonight and we're watching dubious 1980s horror with my DBro (evil dead 3:army of darkness. It's hysterically awful!)

aethel no advice but hope you get it resolved soon.

queen hope you had a better night, and the cupcakes go well not jealous at all that you have time to make cakes.

I'm thinking about looking into a holiday not that we could likely afford it, our last one was 6 years ago pre-children. Possibly Edinburgh as DS wants to see the pandas at Edinburgh zoo. figgy if we venture that far what else is worth seeing up there? We'll probably take DS up to Kinguissie to see Ruthven barracks as its the home of DHs ancestors, but that's still only 2 days worth of stuff.

Thanks Seven had a great nights sleep as Darcie stayed at Nanny's which meant Sky slept the whole night.

I have time to make cuppys when the girls are at school & nursery or when one is at nursery and the other is playing nicely...it's harder when I have Sky clinging onto my legs.

How does apple & cinnamon cuppys sound?

Are cuppys something different to cupcakes? If they are cupcakes, apple and cinnamon sounds yum!

Amazing, as long as they have brown sugar

on top

Mopsy, cuppys are cupcakes.

Seven - Brown sugar on top??!

DH has a charity place in next years marathon, he found out today. I guess the holiday plans will have to wait until I've seen what the cost if hotel rooms and train tickets will be.