July 2013 - Part 1. Remember your pelvic floor exercises!

[TotallyEggFlipped]

Time to start the post-natal thread.

And start those PELVIC FLOOR EXERCISES!

[dinkystinky]

Bloody hell Cheek - what an ordeal. Hope a chilled day at home today makes you all feel better. Does giving up the flat mean you're now in your new house? If so, congrats. Double congrats on being back to pre-preg weight - it always takes me the best part of a year to get there!

Cheese - hurrah for a big fat sleep - fab news! J just slept for nearly 4 hours in his buggy - not expecting it to ever happen again but reassuring to see he's capable of it!

Persuasion - glad you had a good night too. We do evening tummy tubs with J - not sure it makes much of a difference but he seems to like them at least.

[Cheeseandbread]

Cheek poor you! You couldn't make it up could you?!

Persuasion it was my fist try at express feeding so not sure of the pattern. My left boob also seems to produce more milk and choke J... Which can be scary. I also gave J a bath last night- not sure if I mentioned that- this also might have helped with the sleeping.

Granny J is 5 weeks today and I used an Avent manual pump.

Weighed J with the HV today and proudly told her of my sleep success and she promptly told me that was slightly too long to let her sleep... Can't win. J is putting on weight and looks healthy and I only usually get 2/3hrs at a time so I'm not going to worry- and I won't be setting alarms to wake up- I think J will let me know when she is hungry!

[dinkystinky]

The proud outies list:

SuperShiv - DS, Oliver, aka the little fighter, born 13.04.13, 1 lb
Emblosion - DS, Oisin Michael, born 27.5.13, 6 lb 1 oz
Beginningofthejourney - DS, Theodore, born 28.05.13, 6 lb 11 oz
Elliejitny - DS, Ezekiel, born 3.6.13, 7 lb 2 oz
Paolocee/Donna - DDs, Leila Poppy and Caitlin Liv
Princessllama - DS, Humphrey, born 11.06.13, 7lb 4oz
Devilforasideboard - DS, Will
Schrosawmargerydaw - DS, born 21.6.13, Caspar Neil Ruaridh, 4 lb 8 oz
BB01 - DD Rosie, born 22.06.13, 4 lb 9 oz
Differentnow - DD Posy, born 22.06.13 8lb 4oz
OhGood - DS, Thomas
NotprincessKate - Amy Rose, born 26.6.13, 8 lb 14 oz
Shelley72 - DD2, Florence, born 27.6.13
Twinklestarstwinklestars - DS, Max, born 27.6.13, 5lbs 3 oz
Gingerpanther27 - DS, Callum, born 27.6.13, 8 lb 4 oz
McKTastic - DS, Murray, born 29.6.13
Bigbelly4 - DD2, Constance Rose, born 30.6.13, 7 lb 4 oz
Chinainthegarden - DD, Clara Elizabeth, born 30.6.13, 7 lb 7 oz
TotallyEggFlipped - DD2, Naomi, born 1.7.13, 5 lb 8 oz
Vinegardrinker - DD, Bethan, born 2.7.13 (bang on her due date!), 7 lb 13 oz
Abz - DS, Joseph Robert, born 2.7.13, 8 lb 4 oz
Wifey6 - DS, Kyle, born 2.7.13
Cheeseandbread- DD, Juno Olivia, born 3.7.13, 7lb 2 oz
Tryitonforsize - DS, Gray Everett, born 5.7.13, 8 lb 6 oz
MarieKL - DS, Alexander, born 5.7.13, 8 lb 2 oz
MysteryMeg - DD, Edith, born 6.7.13, 8 lb 4.5oz
Pinkballetshoes - DD, Rachel Amelia, born 6.7.13
SundaySunshine - DS, Luca, born 6.7.13
CitizenOscar - DS2 (name to follow), born 7.7.13
Calmisthemantra - DS, Abraham John Anthony, born 7.7.13, 8 lb 5 oz
Dinkystinky - DS3, Jackson Rivan, born 7.7.13, 8 lb 7 oz
Marmitemad - DD2, Evelyn Grace, born 7.7.13, 7 lb 2 oz
Silverbirdie - DD, Edith Alice, born 8.7.13, 9 lb 1 oz
MrsMillions - DD, Abigail, born 8.7.13, 7 lb 1 oz
RunswithSquirrels - DD, Eden Rose, born 10.7.13, 9 lb 3 oz
BadmissM - Caspian Albert Sebastian Alexander, born 10.7.13, 7lbs or so (3.4kg)
Quinnandthem - DD, Sophia Isabella, born 10.7.13, 7 lb 14 oz
Tashtastic - DD, Georgia born 10.7.13
? - DD, Lara Erin Ivory, 7 lbs 13 oz
Esme80 - DD, Abigail Marie, born 12.7.13, 11 lb 2 oz
Cheekbyjowl - DS, Joseph, born 12.7.13, 7 lb 13 oz
Andrea75 - DS, Joshua Timothy, born 14.7.13
Minipenguinmaker - DD, Maya Grace, born 14.7.13, 8 lb 14 oz
Persuasion - DD, Felicity, born 14.7.3, 6 lb 12 oz
GeorgieWilson - DS, Oliver George, born 14.7.13, 8 lb
Thinkingof4 - DD, Morven, born 15.7.13, 9 lb 5 oz
EvelynJ - DD, Florence Heather Rose, born 15.7.13, 8 lb 12 oz
MummyKanny - DD, Alice, born 15.7.13, 6 lb 6 oz
OrangeBubbles - DS, born 15.7.13
Hai1988 - DD, Madison Alice, born 17.7.13, 9 lb 1 oz
lancslass - DD, Annabelle Grace, born 18.7.13, 6.lbs 14oz
Reikimummy - DD, born 20.7.13, 6 lb 11 oz
Slouchingpanda - DS, Feliz , born 21.7.13, 9 lbs 6 oz
MrsD77 - DD, Libby Hope Daisy, born 24.7.13
Cantreachmytoes - DD, born 24.7.13 (on due date!)
iclaudius - DS (no 7!), born 24.7.13, 8 lb 6 oz
PhieEl06 - DD, Macy June, born 25.7.13 (born in her caul!), 7 lb 6 oz
Shockingundercrackers - DS2, born 25.7.13, 8 lb 1 oz
Photographerlady - DD,Matilda Sofia, born 25.7.13, 8 lb 15 oz
Pocopearl - DS, born 25.7.13, 8 lb 11 oz (after epic induction)
MrsRoss26 - DD, Charlotte Sophia, born 25.7.13, 7 lb 4 oz
Icingthecake - DD, born 26.7.13, 8 lb 10 oz
Mightbemad - DS, born 27.7.13, 9lb 8 oz
MrsWilderMac -DD, Amelie Grace, born 27.5.13, 6 lb 15 oz
Wavesandsmiles - DS, born 27.7.13, 7 lb 3 oz
Twirliedobbit - DS, Oscar Edward, born 27.7.13, 6 lb 14 oz
Sashabella0 - DD, Alice, born 28.7.13, 7 lb 14 oz
Guavasforbreakfast - DS, Sebastian Charles, born 29.7.13, 7 lb 8 oz
GrannyApple - DD, Amelia Catherine, born 30.7.13, 6 lb 14 oz
Amadablam - DD, Elspeth Anna, born 31.7.13, 7 lb 4 oz
LizinCornwall - DD, Emma Eloise, born 1.8.13
TomDaleysTrunks - DD, Harriet Eleri, born 2.8.13, 8 lb 11 oz
Silver15 - DS, Jotham, born 4.8.13, 9lbs (or thereabouts)
Sugarkane - DD, Freya Amelia, born 4.8.13, 10 lbs
Waitingforwombat - DD, born 5.8.13, 7lb 8 oz

Thinks thats every one from the antenatal thread and FB who updated on their births. Cant remember who Lara's mum is on here so if she pops on and would like her name added in, please let me know. Any other former posters who are now lurkers wanting adding in please let me know.

So, awards time.

We all know who wins BFMB (Big Fat Monster Baby) award - Esme and her lovely not so little lady (closely followed by Sugarkane and her not so little lady as runner up), and who wins most impatient to arrive baby (Supershiv and the delightful Oliver). We have 4 All England future champions - my J, Citizen's ds2, Calm's Abraham and Marmitemad's Evelyn. We have two prompt due date ladies who get the award for timeliness - Vinegar's Bethan and Phie's Macy. We have one lucky lady in her caul - Phie's Macy - and a seventh son who is bound to be a future sorceror (or a father of one)- Iclaudius' ds no 7! Award for last baby on the thread goes to Waitingforwombat's DD - she certainly kept you waiting but was worth the wait. Amazingly no one got a special coin for having a birth on the same date as the royal baby - but as all our babies are royalty to us, who cares?

[VinegarDrinker]

Thanks dinky! Fab list.

Can I enter B for speediest entrance award? Established labour 18 minutes. That must put her in the running for a podium place?

[dinkystinky]

Definitely Vinegar! Though think there were some other v fast established labours too - Totally I think and one other induction that took all 0f 25 mins (cant remember who) so a couple of runners up out there too.

I thinkOhGood, Citizen and I are also in the running for fastest arrivals following arrival at birth centre/hospital too.

[Beginningofthejourney]

Oliver is a whopping 5lbs 8 now according to Shivs update on the other thread, he seems to be getting there slowly, having some time off his c-pap but has has some nasty desats so keeping Shiv on her toes. Fingers crossed he will be back at their local hospital soon!

[cheekbyjowl]

yes dinky were in a house. horray. it's fun having stairs and a bath tub.

we were signed off by midwives on day 10. have registered joseph at nearest drs but they don't.want to see him for 2 more months. so no hv visits or clinics planned. is that normal? everyone else seems to be getting their los weighed.

hope juno and jackson sleep plenty tonight!

[dinkystinky]

Fingers (and in Jacksons case eyes) crossed for Oliver to get back on the road to their local hospital - and to stop giving Shiv and MrShiv grey hairs!!

Correction on earlier awards - Cantreachmytoes was the other due date baby, not Phies (blaming sleep deprivation for my mistake there).

Hurrah for your house Cheek. I found out when we moved with ds1 we had to register the move seperately with hvs (only found out q years and a half later when I had ds2 and was told off by them) so worth finding out local HV details and giving them a call to say you've moved to the area - they are the ones who do all the weighing. That said, I didn't bother getting ds2 weighed more than 6 times and suspect will be even more rubbish with j as dont really rate the hvs around here (loved the hvs where I lived when we had ds1 - saw them on a weekly basis with him!)

[dinkystinky]

PS you need your 6 week check up for you and Josephb with gp and to give Joseph jabs at 2 months if he's well - normally sorted via your gp so worth checking re booking both the above in with them now you're all registered.

[IcingTheCake]

Oops only just caught up my bad! Congratulations everybody! We're on the other side now
Day 12 here and feeling soooo much more settled already, i cannot believe how down i felt last week! Switching to ff was probably the best decision i could've made! Slightly dreading my OH going back to work on Saturday though! Luckily my parents will be around at the weekend if i need them
Alice is back up and past her birth weight now a little chunk on the 75th centile at 9lb exactly! But my lovely chunk

Keep clenching ladies!

[TotallyEggFlipped]

cheek - what a nightmare!

Anyone in the south west (or anywhere if you want to travel) want to join us for a mini meet-up on the 27th, probably somewhere near Exeter?

[Persuasion]

Cheek that sounds awful. Glad you're all home safe and sound.

Dinky Thanks for doing the list, I don't know how you find time!

Thanks for the update Beginning. I'm glad Oliver is doing well. I try to lurk on the other thread and keep up to date but haven't managed lately.

I'm glad you're feeling better icing. Sounds like ff was the right decision fire you which is all that matters. Those hormones do play havoc in the first week.

[MightBeMad]

Eek cheek! That does not sound fun!

Icing so glad you're feeling so much better. Good luck flying solo!

Re sleeping, we are currently setting alarms here to wake DS but I discussed it with the mw at the 10 day check and she was happy that when he's back to his birthweight we can stop doing that and let him sleep as long as he wants overnight as long as he's fed well during the day. It seems, as with all things baby/ related, advice differs on this issue too!

[cheekbyjowl]

that mw sounds sensible but its def confusing to hear so much differing advice. I'm setting an alarm still in fear I won't wake up...but I've not needed it once, these newborns definitely let us know when they want something

I met a lady yesterday whose child slept through the night from 7 weeks. she should give us all hope that that day will soon come (I also met a pc whose 5yr old still hasnt but I'm trying to block that one out )

has anyone won the first smile yet? I can't wait for that day. I'm finding that j is starting to focus on dhs face but never looks higher than my cleavage when I hold him, typical male always thinking of boobs and where his tucker comes from

[Cheeseandbread]

Well done Dinky thanks for the list.

Not such a good night here... Back to my 2 and a half hour stints. J rejected the bottle twice from DH... He got annoyed wondering why we were giving it to her with boob on tap... She got annoyed and I got annoyed... I also stayed up until 10 waiting for DH to attempt the second try of the bottle but she was too asleep to take it- we then put her down and she slept for another 2 and a half hrs- so I missed out on a 4 and a half hr stretch! Plus DH was annoyed with me- not a fun night. She is asleep on my chest now as she doesn't want to settle... And I wasted my expressed milk as it now has to be thrown... And my boobs feel full ish even after feeding probably because this time yesterday I was expressing and I only have one bottle to express into at the moment and it's got my old milk in it!!!

Sorry for the moan...

[princessllama]

Cheek someone else up too!
Both my sils' babies were sleeping through by about 7 weeks and so was one of my fab friends. Have a feeling that if humphrey didnt wake himself up with his farts ( honestly) or his reflux he might be sleeping through. He varies from 3 hrs btwn feeds to very rare 6 hrs 50.( done twice)
Finally an award we migt be in running for- h smiled in hospital week 2 and the nurses said was real and not just wind
Think he has finally gone into deep sleep and safe to put him doen again

[evelynj]

Hi all

Just caught up on thread during pretty rare nightime feed.

Cheek-that is awful & what a trauma for you-everything slighty bad is multiplied tenfold with a newborn.

Congrats wombat on the last instalment & good to hear how all the little ones are doing. Also reassuring that others have similar woes about venturing out-we're planning a trip to town today as dh off-excited & nervous-will have to take at least one cushion for bf attempt!

At 17 days now F has gone a few times from 11.30-7am without waking. Mw said this was too much but on several occasions I woke her after 5 hours & she wasn't interested in feeding & ended up taking 2hrs+ to get her to start & latch on anyway so now I'm letting her do it her way, any other is too stressful-not expecting a routine as yet but she generally cluster feeds in evening & sleeps well tho last night she was sleepy all eve & didn't feed much.

Also we still seem to have trouble latching on, it's totally hit & miss, looking forward to getting to bf support next week.

Dinky-thanks for the cranial osteopath rec-worked wonders for us with colic.

Latest trauma here is oral thrush & I'm sure the nystatin prescribed is not agreeing with baby at all so stopped using it & not sure if it will clear with just the infant probiotic I've ordered. It's hard to know what to do with medicine when your instincts tell you the opposite of the Hvs etc.

Well hope everyone is having chilled nights, fx or getting some more sleep now :)

[princessllama]

Ooh evelyn you've hit the jackpot with the sleep. Fantastic, cant pretend im not jealous.
Dont envy you thrush we had that with ds1. Nightmare to get rid of, ihad it too. I was advised to boil all stuff that came into contact with bmilk- ie sheets, pjs, bra, muslins, babygros- had me demented and as far as i can remember only finally cleared when i stopped feeding. I never thought much of nystatin, stained all ds2's clothes and sheets. I think probiotics is great idea to tackle it esp if you get good make like biocare.

[princessllama]

Cheek cant believe your bad luck- what are the chances of that. ' of all the goddamn cul de sacs in all the towns in all the world'

[TotallyEggFlipped]

evelyn at your sleeping!

We're planning a trip to the zoo today

I think I need to prepare for a poonami - N hasn't produced anything more than a tiny shmear of poop in her nappy for 24 hours and she's been a several times a day girl up to now.......

[shelley72]

Just catching up, v envious of your full nights sleep Evelyn . F does seem to sleep a lot at least compared to my other two who still refuse sleep even now so shouldn't complain, but she likes to sleep on me. Can't get her in Moses at all, and I don't do letting them cry. Has anyone heard of those sleepyhead beats? Was wondering what they were like?

Well done to all of you expressing so much. I found pumping difficult when I was working, and could/can never be bothered when I'm at home. Another cautionary tale for today - I'm sure you know this but don't rely on BF for contraception (esp if you're expressing) as someone I met once at a baby group was pregnant by their six week check. We were all that she even had the energy!

Right need to get going, we are having a trip to the coast

[MightBeMad]

Evelyn wow what great sleep! I can only hope that we get something like that when we stop setting an alarm!

Argh - name memory fail again! To the poster who mentioned not being able to get baby to settle in their basket: one trick I'm case you have't tried it - when they come off the boob all sleepy, keep still, don't move or burp them, just cuddle them and wait. They may stir a bit but usually relax again and after about 30min you will notice their breathing gets a lot quieter and more gentle as they drop into deep sleep. Once in deep sleep you can carefully transfer them into the moses basket. Hope that works for you! Once they are used to going down in deep sleep you can gradually put them down in lighter sleep and then sleepy but awake, but waiting for deep sleep is the first step.

[PhieEl06]

Morning ladies, well we've had a few hellish days here, M doesn't want to settle at night now & yesterday had constant screaming with an hour & a half sleeping in car break from 4pm when the midwife woke her up to weigh her till she finally settled at midnight. Felt at the end of my tether yesterday but after a goodish nights sleep I feel much better, she only woke once at 4.30 had a feed & went straight back down before waking at 8.30 she had a big feed & we've come downstairs where's she's asleep again! In the light of a new day I feel a lot better but I'm struggling to cope with the nights & dreading this afternoon, she's two weeks today & I have thought about starting to introduce a bit of a routine but is it too soon?

Ladies pumping - I am so impressed! I had a go yesterday with my pump & managed just over 1oz which is now sitting in the bottle in the back of the fridge but probably going to dump it. I don't want to use bottles just yet & I want to give pumping another go today to see if I can get more.

I can't remember much else, sorry but I do hope everyone else is well! Whilst M is settled I'm going to try to hang the washing out, have a shower, pump more & paint my nails. Wow that's ambitious!

[Beginningofthejourney]

evelyn very jealous of you nights especially after our worse night ever! Theo seemed very tired and kept nodding off but then woke crying (sad cry not I don't want to be in basket cry) ended up giving him some paracetamol in case he had pain, eventually fell asleep at gone 1! Then fed at 3 and 6. Think an afternoon nap will be in order today!
Glad everyone is starting to venture out, I find most people don't even notice when I feed theo when we are out.

[notprincesskate]

I've found you! Can't believe you're on page 4 already. Congratulations to the latest editions, since my last visit.

Had my 6 week check yesterday, GP said she was happy for me to start jogging despite SPD still hanging around, her words were "nothing is going to fall out"! Hmmmm still might visit the oesteopath first as it's still sore and popping when turning in bed, after initial disappearance of symptoms.
Sorry for lack of personals, I've just caught up with the thread and all has gone in one side of brain and out the other.
Am in awe of those not eating, had my first day of WW yesterday and failed, just seemed so hungry and don't even have bf to blame so it was just greed , also those out and about, esp with older children, we took both girls to the zoo at the beginning of the week, I hated it, DD1 kept trying to escape, A had a screaming fit, some rude women pushed in front of us getting on the tram ride, and so we had to wait again- not a biggy but was for DD1 at 2.5 who was then v upset, so at next turn we got a bit bolshy- not like us, and my mum who was with us then got yelled at by some women as she went to help her small child off the train, about mum "grabbing her child", cue almost tears from me and decision to head home, and NEVER to visit anywhere in the school holidays again, I can be a bit firery, but usually avoid confrontation, but I find a lot of people seem to be very aggressive and confrontational, and tbh I just can't deal with it.
Hey ho don't suppose I can really stay at home for the rest of my life, maybe I should just toughen up a little.