November 2012 - Summertime, and the babies are sleeping (mostly with a few notable exceptions)

[StuntNun]

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MM O isn't crawling yet either and M is one of the youngest quiche babies. If I recall correcty, she is a champion chatter though

I think

Food is hit and miss here still, but getting better. He eats what I eat as he refuses a spoon. We have a lot of wastage and mess but the amount he is eating does seem to be increasing.

Going to start looking for a nice, gentle, non-chemically shampoo for Oscar's crazy hair.

mm M is one of the most alert babies I know. She is all there with her cough drops no doubt about it. Many babies never crawl so she might just skip that stage. Who knows but she is certainly bright as a button.

PR what would the impact be on her if it had perforated? I had her at the doc last week and he checked but there was nothing. She was pretty whingy yesterday and did claw at her ear all day. Hmm.

The impact would be risk of further infection and, erm, water in ears would not be good either. I took LO in on a Tuesday as she had been whiny and grumpy and needed paracetamol a lot. The doctor checked her temp and ears. That night she screamed for about ten minutes and then calmed down and the next morning she was covered in gunk.
The paed put her on antibiotics and drops as a precaution to prevent further infection. No long term issues afaik.

The perforation helped her as gunk had been building up from inside and putting painful pressure on her eardrum. Once it was perforated the pressure and pain was released and she was like a new baby. It happened a week or so after a mild cold.

Right. Appointment made for this afternoon. Receptionist was lovely and said that with it being an ear just to bring her in. The joys of having a doc on uni campus - weeks and weeks of the year they have at least 2000 fewer patients!

Oh, and I just lugged an armchair up the stairs including over the stair gate. Why? So I have somewhere to sit in P's room because my back is sore. Dumbass.

PP I have been pontificating your dilemma while pairing socks. I think much depends on exactly how it was said. I presume she is offended because the implication is that her children fight like cat and dog. Do they? People get daftly offended when your lifestyle choices don't match theirs because that implies that theirs is not The Best One.

I found this before getting married, before having p, I find it now with going back to work, whether we have another and so on.

Is she a really good pal? I would be inclined to apologise for causing offence as that hadn't been your intention and leave it at that.

lily bet they're loving being around o, kids that age seem to love babies I've found!

Aww pr there was an injured something or other that I tried to care for as a child but he only lasted a couple of hours, I don't know what he was but I called him George. He was just little and brown.

stunt I try to do a mix of spoon feeding and finger foods. Eric manages lumpy purée just fine and can feed himself. I think the reason I insist on trying to spoon feed him something each meal is because I like to know he's eating something. Problem now is because he's only having 3 bottles when he is then fussy with his food and barely eats I have found myself sobbing through his naps because I am worried he isn't getting enough. It boils down to the overbearing worry I have that if he doesn't get enough he will stop sleeping at night and I do not do well on no sleep. I don't want to be a miserable moody mum who can't deal with e in the day because he doesn't sleep at night. I am petrified he'll stop sleeping through and I won't be able to cope. I already feel shitty enough that usually one meal is a pouch of something and that I can't work out how to leave the house very often without it messing with his routine. Mum keeps saying if he is eating, and then stops, he clearly is/thinks he is full. If so, leave him till the next meal/bottle and if not enough was taken he will take more at his next offering. She said I can't stress he won't sleep until he stops sleeping and then I do something about it but for now I need to trust him etc. I just don't trust him to feed himself enough when offered just finger foods for a meal. I guess I could do finger food lunch as he still has a bottle after lunch, so he'll drink that if he doesn't eat enough. I know, I'm rubbish, still. Plus as pass says my diet just isn't suitable, wish it was, I just don't have time to make 'proper' dinners sometimes and I don't want him weaning onto stuff and chips, stuff on toast or eating as late as we do when I do do a 'proper' dinner.

I am trying to make stuff less puréed but it always seems to end up like purée unless I put mini pasta in it. I'm just wank all round and very woe is me right now, please ignore

I don't think I would be offended pp not if you worded it carefully. Well, I'd like to think I wouldn't but like mm I usually take things to be a criticism and end up feeling rubbish even if people didn't intend to make me feel that way.

E is rubbish at this crawling malarkey. Elyza seems to do a lot more than he did at this age and I'm trying to not be bothered, tbh I think he's just a lazy so and so, he'll get there with everything just perhaps a bit later than others do :) see, am trying to be positive I'm just rubbish

pass I'd get it checked out personally but it's cos I'd rather know nothing is wrong than assume it and have them be upset/in discomfort when I could prevent it

Don't worry ditsy will keep you updated

Ugh. Woe is fucking me today. Probably best I fuck off till tomorrow lol!

Hmm. I had her in last week with what the doc thought was a sore throat. Off her food, whingy, a bit unsettled at night, snotty nose and so on. Yesterday I could hear her nose rattle as she breathed.

She has no temperate though and seems largely alright. I wouldn't say she was covered in junk but her sheet has two patches of orange yuck with red spots in. And her ear canal looks messy.

Thanks for the info - I get so concerned about being seen as a PFB parent. It won't be my usual GP this afternoon as he isn't in. Weirdly thankful of that actually!

Sounds like it is infected then. Might not have perforated but that would explain why she's feeling better. They don't always give antibiotics but LO got them as she was very small back then. I think it was March.

DD1 brought in dandelion clocks without me noticing and is blowing them all over the house. Oh well, it's a shit tip anyway.

kyz you sound so down on yourself - when all I can see is that you are a caring mum trying to get the right food and nutrition into your baby. I am exactly the same about lack of sleep at night, F is not sleeping through at the moment even though he used to, so although I think I should be dropping a bottle at the moment as havn't dropped any yet and he is getting less interested in 2 of them, I havn't done it as I don't want to give him another reason to wake in the night!
I get really irrational about night wakings and feel like its the end of the world - but then each day you carry on and realise your not as tired as you expected to be.
If he doesn't have enough one day and doesn't sleep through, then you will know. But I guess until that day comes just go with it and let him take what he wants too. It's obviously enough for him at the moment!

mm1 H is one of the oldest too, he's just over 9.5 months and he's not crawling, not puling himself up, still falls over when sitting. But he'll get there

Mm do not stress I really didn't expect L to crawl so early. My close friends baby crawled on his first birthday and walked at 14 months. I expected him to be closer to this.

DD1? The pets?

Work.

Ds1 got antibiotics for a gunky ear as our new family dr said he always gives them as the ear drum has perforated. This was after i'd walked in saying I didn't think he needed them as he was reasonably cheery which was the advice I'd had from several other doctors!

We bath both every night as part of the routine. Hard workwhen ihave both to put to bed on myown though.

pr sorry yourwprk are being complete twats

Thank you all, I know I am being ridiculous, but reading it here makes me feel much better!

Baths: M has a shower every morning with DP. She sometimes has a bath with me, but we've had to put a bit of a stop to bathtime as she thinks it is hilarious to throw herself forwards under the water. Weirdo. Sodding swimming lessons!

WAAAAAAAAH!!!!

I think I have cried a thousands tears today. My mum cried more .

Thanks for thinking of me :)

DS1 is home and covered in fecking pen from head to toe. His shirt was signed, but so was the rest of him... . Going to be so very strange. I think mum might have relented on having O on saturdays, as she knows this is the only time she will see DS1, and him too really. So fingers crossed on that one .

Having a bad afternoon here. O woke at 5.45 this morning, and was up for the day. But he seemed generally cheery enough. I went off to school with DS1, leaving him here with DP.

The arrangement was for MIL to watch him for 15 minutes for us while I traveled back from school this morning. (DP was due in work and I knew I wouldn't quite make it in time). When I got there at 11.15 she had given him food . Brown seeded bread. Now, I have no idea if that had milk products in, but given his grumpiness, and the terrible time I've had getting him to sleep, plus the increase in vomiting, I will assume it did.

I told DP. Who told her. And she messaged me. So I had to be all polite about it, when all I really wanted to say is DON'T FUCKING FEED HIM ANYTHING UNLESS YOU KNOW 100% IT IS DAIRY FUCKING FREE!! I'm going to get DP to have an in depth discussion about it with her. Just so I can be reassured. Feel like it isn't my place as she isn't my mum, but she is going to be looking after him, so I need to know she won't feed him anything unless I've sent it, or she understands what to look for on packaging etc. I'll give her a 'safe' list of products, so it is easier for her. Just don't want to offend, but don't want O being in pain, and having a scream fest!

Oh, and similar reasons why we aren't doing BLW here, most of our foods contain dairy and soya. Plus salt. It is easier (although not when I am bloody making them!) to make foods for him.

He will now often all the time steal food off my plates. So I make sure I keep some veg to the side so he can have something suitable to nom on while we are eating. I give him his dinner earlier than us because I don't want to feed him while trying to eat my own. It's a PITA.

So really, it goes like this - breakfast is puree pretty much as it is porridge/weetabix with fruit. Occasionally just fruit. Lunch is hit and miss - if he has it it is usually a puree. Dinner will be puree plus finger foods when we have our dinner, ie. veg, rice cakes, chicken, fruit, etc. He only has a pudding after his evening meal in an effort to tank him up to sleep through the fecking night!. Pudding is fruit. Once I have given him jelly, sometimes he has organix sweetcorn rings as a pudding . He loves those, jams as many in his mouth as he can!

I've tried to make it a bit lumpier, but he doesn't seem to approve! He will eat finger foods, but lumps can fuck off??!

O has been turning the taps on in the bath . I'm just glad that our hot water runs fucking cold constantly. Would be near enough impossible to burn yourself! There is a technique that takes 30 fucking minutes to running our bath.

Need to get a plumber out really, but seems it might not be a good idea just yet!!

pidj I wouldn't have been offended. :)

Pass are you back from docs yet??

MM I think quite a few of the quiche babies aren't crawling at the moment. I think it is the minority crawling to be honest. Like someone I've forgotten said I have a friend who's little one was really active, but just didn't crawl til 12 mths, then walked pretty much straight after! They all do things their own sweet way!

And M is one of the youngest too.

O is not a talker. I try and encourage sounds. But he just screams at me.

MM L is 2 days shy of 9 months and has just started moving around, through a combination of rolling, backwards crawling and general flinging about. No proper crawling yet. He only learnt to roll back to front last week. I forget how old M is but at least a few weeks younger iirc?

Stunt we are fully BLW. Well sometimes I help L hold stuff if it's slippery but it's still his choice. He has same food as us with some adaptations for CMPI and salt levels, plus my famous quiches!

MM Jonas is 8 months adjusted 9 months actual and is only just starting to crawl (backwards at present!) - he's been focussing on chatting and fine motor skills until this point and as a prem and from a long line of dyspraxics I didn't expect him to crawl early (my sisters two were 10 and 11 months - and her wee prem crawled before her big fat brother!) . Its only the last fortnight he's been interested in floor time remote controls.The speed with which they do things is nothing to worry about at this stage.

Just back in. Apparently her ears are gunky but not infected. No temperature and seems generally fine.