November 2012 - Summertime, and the babies are sleeping (mostly with a few notable exceptions)

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1800961-November-2012-Is-is-too-early-for-birthday-plans

Just caught up with thread. Lily and Det how are your O's now after their screamathons today?

stunt rubbish news about the back. Fingers crossed about the house all going smoothly.

PR I have days like that too. Nursery is so good,am sure it will help.

evil how annoying.

Am fucking manic at work this week. Barely have time to draw breath at the moment. BP I will respond to you soon.

Wishing you all a good asleep, especially iZzy if you are lurking at all.

Can I ask what you are all doing with bathing now? How often, do you use any bath products/shampoo etc?

I bath O every 2/3 days and only use water for it and washing his hair. Is this still ok? Or will it not be getting him clean enough?

Also, his hair is quite dry and fluffy, most babies I see have lovely silky hair. Am I doing something wrong? It just gets washed with plain water every bath time.

Feeling a bit blue tonight. Royal birth made me feel emotional and lonely. And broody

Evening all,

god today has been a shitty one!

that's great news stunt about the house. Can't remember if I already said that or not!

I do think we need another sweary day. Today has been one!

hope all the upset babies are ok tomorrow, mine is asleep and i'm praying he stays that way the miserable so and so

vq hope j settles ok

pass glad p has gone asleep

izzy if you're lurking, some hugs and i hope you're alright lovely

jealous of the thunderstorms, nothing here tonight and i LOVE them, even though the thunder kept me up last night

hope everyone gets a decent sleep tonight. Sorry for the lack of posting, though i bet you're all glad to not have to read my epic posts! It's just a little house martin fell out of a friends nest and i've raised a house sparrow from hatching age before, so this little guy is left in my too busy hands. He is eating, drinking and pooing well but they take up alot of time, this little fella needs feeding every 20 mins or so. He will be released back in the garden when he is fledged. Not my garden, my friends. Anyway, between that and e and the usual, i just haven't had the time. Sorry quiche.

BTW he is called ernest whilst he's here

night xx

no rain or storms here!
Have good nites

Evil

chasing E has a bath everynight but that's really only as I bath DD1 everynight as part of her bed time routine cos she's always filthy. I don't use any products on E apart from Dentinox shampoo for her cradle cap and I don't do that every day. Probably about every other day or every 3. I don't think there is any need for any soap etc this age.

kyz Blimey is there annything you can't do. Not content with raising E, helping your mum with Elyza you are now rearing baby birds. No wonder you don't have time to post much Loving the name ernest.

J has just settled poor wee boy. He sat on the front step with daddy watching the rain and lightening and he thought it was the best thing ever.

Sweet dreams all.

I thought the royal baby was called Ernest when I saw the last post.

kirrin I turned the telly off at 7am and it hasn't been on since

kyz! If I do come back as a fruit fly I hope I come back in your wine! You will have me under heat lamps in no time. You are a lovely, lovely person.

chasing p a bathed every night in oilatum bath stuff. Mostly just playing rather than washing. With the heat recently and p being covered in sun block e did use a splash of bubble bath. I just rub her head with the flannel. Does his scalp need moisturised?

Bathing is a rare occurrence here to be honest. Proper bath once a week I'd say. I stick some baby bath bubbles in as his skin seems fine with it.

Been using the shower more. It's fascinating for him . He had a quick shower tonight after spaghetti gate. But that is mostly because he was covered in starchy dog hair .

I mostly wash him with a flannel.

O improved when DS1 came home from school. Then deteriorated again when DP got home at bedtime. I don't know why he has decided he must steal food from my plate now. Just mine. No one elses. .

Have started having to think about meals to make sure there is something he can have! Even though he already has his dinner....!

He did eat dinner tonight. After food refusing all day. So that's good.

Pass What time do you do bedtime? And what time is her last nap? I'm starting to think about putting O down before 7. Just to see... his bed is closer to 8 now as trying to fit all feeds etc in is making things rushed. But will give it a go.

He hardly slept today. Not like him at all. I hope to fuck he sleeps tonight. He went down very easily, and has only woke because knobhead woke him fixing a fan outside his room.

DP agreed to doing overtime tomorrow and thursday wonder why , so now I have 4 days ahead to look forward to with 2 children on my own. Fabulous. O better stop whinging!!

I'm a little lot emotional tonight. Tomorrow is DS1's last day at primary school.

I have written my mum a card, trying to tell her how grateful I am for everything she has done for DS, and me. But words don't really cut it sometimes! Have bought her a big bouquet of flowers for DS to give her.

But when do I give them? She will be at the leavers assembly obvs, but do I give her them after the assembly is over, or do I get DS to give them during the assembly. Not sure how other people would react, so thinking of giving them when it is over.

End of an era here. Start of new things for us. But the realisation I won't see my mum like I do now, and won't have her to remind me of everythings. She won't see O all the time like she does now, or DS1. I won't have the constant reliable childcare she has given me all these years. It's making me feel very sad. :(

Mum has been on the phone crying tonight! God help us tomorrow. I'm not bothering wearing make up!

Det sounds like you have a lovely relationship with your mum.

kyz you really are lovely.

pass I used to use Aveeno on his scalp as it was dry but it is fine now so no need. I think it is because he has thick Chinese hair and I don't know how to handle it. XP was going to be in charge of hair.

O woke just as I fell asleep. FFS. I am hot and pissed off. Why won't he sleep for longer than 3 hours? I thought I was really getting somewhere with his sleep when he started sleeping through until 5. Now we are back to square fucking one again.

Oh bless you det. Must be a weird time.

Right.

P's 'routine this week for sleep is

6:30 up (usually before. Anytime after 6am)
9am nap for approx 1hr 15. She bizarrely wakes at pretty much 1hr 17 every time!
1pm-1:30 nap for approx 1hr-1:30
Bath 6:15
Bed and asleep aim for 7pm

Today she woke from her afternoon nap too early which made h rest of the day shit. She was like a coiled spring by bedtime and massively overtired. She was twitching.

Pretty delicate balancing act really.

No chasing! Just a wee blip, that's all! All your hard work will pay off.

In hair chat, could you scope out a local hairdresser with expertise in Chinese hair? I'll bet if you wandered into a few salons with the beautiful o they would be charmed into giving you some advice - maybe even some samples of things to save for when he is bigger

And det the rule used to be no naps after 5. I think now it is after 4. She has slept until 5 a couple of times recently and both times were nightmare bedtimes

We bath every night and only use a touch of oilatum. Don't use any baby shampoo - and he has lots of curly hair. Aren't they just a needless expense at this age?

Ernest is one of Jonas' middle names - after our lovely Ghanaian obstetrician on the island who got him the fuck out Jonas was the first boy he'd delivered on the island. He was such a wicked guy.

So sorry about your arthritis stunt. Time to put yourself at the top of the list for looking after. House is very exciting, fingers crossed.

Here is to wishing ernest a fast recovery kyz

G hasn't managed more than 1 half ht nap today and has been very unsettled. Has been very refluxy this evening and has a high temp so have given him calpol and stripped him down. Can a bug make reflux worse? He and I both need more sleep. So far he has managed to sleep on and off this evening but only upright and on me. Have now given up hope of a cot transfer - will be happy if I can get him to sleep next to me.

And we keep being dive bombed by a massive moth.

J is bathed every other night ish with Oilatum bath oil Chasing and I give his hair a wipe over with a flannel.

O woke at 11 screaming. She was fine as long as I put my hand on her back but cried when I left. It was a 30min battle. I wonder what is wrong with her.

She has a bath every night. I use tesco baby head to toe wash, she is very sweaty and sticky, water is not enough. She is a funny little one, hates her ducks in the water, as soon as they are out she splashes about happily.

N woke up screaming at 12, just like when he was a new born. He had a very arched back, and his cry was a high pitched, and he was very difficult to settle. He only settled when I gave him is milk, and I could see it was on account of a sore throat. He took ages to get back to sleep, and I had to give paracetamol. I've not had a nightlike that since he was a newborn.

No rain or storm here!

N Was having a bath once a week, but since it was so hot he had one every single day.

Evil

S is bathed every night, sometimes with bubble bath, sometimes not. Hair washed twice a week ish. DD was having a bath every night so S slotted into her routine. They both love the water and its a good wind down to bed. Aim for them both go be in bed by 1830, asleep by 1900. Doesn't always go to plan huge understatement as I am often doing bedtime just me.

Was it kirrin also having bedtime problems when doing bedtime solo? When my routine works, it is great. This is what we do. Stop playing and upstairs by 1800. Both into bath, washed, dried and into pjs and back downstairs for milk and cartoons (DD) while I feed S his last bottle. S into cot preferably having fallen asleep on bottle, then DD to bed for a story and sleep. If S doesn't fall asleep on the bottle then he rarely is happy to self settle, so I usually have to dart between the two rooms. Sometimes DD falls asleep while waiting for me to finish settling DS, and she doesn't get a story but by and large it works for us.

O just broke his cot mobile. The bit that the mobile itself attaches to has snapped off so you can no longer hook the music box plus toy part on. So completely useless and more importantly, dangerous still can't find the piece that snapped off!!.

I didn't realise they weren't to be used after 6 months.

Going to take it back anyway as I'm pretty sure an 8 month old shouldn't be able to snap it though.

Chasing we have to have a dunk in the bath every evening after tea, as she is so grubby (think food in ears, hair, fat folds) that it is easier to run an inch of water in the bath and let her splash. No products though. Maybe once a week I use a little bit of baby shampoo on her hair, usually if her hair smells a bit funny, or has got suncream in it.

Det hope today goes ok. I bet you're reeeeally looking forward to 6 weeks with them both

Luckily bedtimes here, when dsd is here, aren't too bad. She is quite content to read her books in her room and wait for me to finish - but she is nearly 6 so that much older.

I hope izzy is ok, if she's lurking.

F was up at 4.55 today. I made her a bottle but she only had 2oz, so she's clearly not waking hungry. Ended up dragging the spare mattress back into her room, and she settled on that next to me. She's still there now. I've been awake ever since . Think I shall attempt one final bit of sleep training, to crack the 5am wake-ups.

Have just clocked a "royal baby in car seat incorrectly" thread. FFS leave the poor things alone!

I saw that. They have more coppers than a shiny black shoe convention and will be travelling in convoy.

I imagine their instructions were to get into the car quickly and go.