November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

Did I miss Swimming Gate pig?

Clarella hugs You and lo are really going through it. How are you doing? Do you have lots of support?

MM did you make up the beds in the end? Thinking of you and your unwanted guests.

In a nutshell chasing - dh said "go swimming, I'll be fine", then rang 7 minutes later saying "I can't do it, come home". Words were exchanged. Many, heated words.

BP Sorry but I had to laugh. I'd of been fuming though... on the plus side I suppose DP can manage when I am not here - but it is just pretty basic 'manage'. More like scraping by. Sometimes he surprises me. Not often though.

What has he said following swimming gate?! Has he tried again since?

Do you ever have one of those lightbulb moments that you feel like a total, utter dickwad for never having thought of before??!

Well, that's me.

I've just realised a solution to the white noise thing (as in battery always running out on phone in the middle of the night, or earlier. Having to have the phone next to his ear - which I hate. I don't want it in the cot with him. And it not being loud enough to soothe sometimes.

I've got a fucking ipod docking station. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUH.

It's now all set up, in the door way of O's room, so phone can be accessed as necessary, not too close to O, and it's nice and loud for him. And the battery will always be fully charged, and never die!

I suppose it will irritate me come bed time. Might have to close our door over.

But. YAY!!

With that, and his new swaddle arriving tomorrow, I remain optimistic! His swaddle is fucked. The velcro just won't stick. I've a good mind to complain. It shouldn't have worn out after 3 months. GRRR!

J ate a conchiglie pasta shell! He also had a bit of toast. I know he's not really supposed to have wheat until Tuesday but I'm glad I tried it now. It was unbelievable and terrifying watching him eat the pasta but he chewed it up and swallowed most of it. He also ate a little bit of the toast but made an appalled face! Hooray, maybe he won't have to live on milk forever after all.

Det his mission is to learn how to get F to nap in the day, this weekend. He has said he will do what I do thank god and not try any funny tricks. It's so frustrating though, because whereas I will rock her for 20+ minutes sometimes, he doesn't have the patience - and then I have to pick up the pieces.

I'm excited - 13 more days for us Stunt I can't wait to try these things milk fucking free of course!.

I'm going to be doing an awful lot of home made things. Waaaah!

YW I meant to reply to you last night - just remembered!! I think the supermarkets do do a list - I figured it would be a good starting point, and then I could just check at each purchase!

Day time sounds like a good place to start. DP has a lot of patience in the day. I think he just can't deal with bad nights.

I know I struggle, but I know my limits and when to ask for help. I also don't keep him pissing awake through it unless I absolutely have to, which is rare. Not that he'd wake anyway, but that's not the point!!

Pissing bastarding useless men (not saying all men are useless, just moaning at those who are!!).

Yes to the no patience thing. It can take a fucking long time while to get O to sleep and when he doesn't manage it within 5 minutes he declares that he isn't tired. I know that baby inside out. He is tired.

Bon soir dudes,

I have read every lovely word you have written and can barely remember a chuffing word. I will see what comes back to me.

Took pooping Penelope to the docs today - he thinks she has rotovirus. We have poo sample bottles to use and return on Monday. Poor P. she seems absolutely fine in herself and has her usual appetite but is pooing much more often than usual with a consistency between paint and water.

I made roasted sweet potato purée and Pear purée. Actually - here is a question. . . I just chopped te pear up and stewed it all. When it was done I whizzed it then strained it through a mesh sieve. Will that be ok? I didn't peel or core them. Tasted delicious.

We are going to start in earnest this weekend. I know to start with one ice cube and to stick with one thing fr 3 days (I will do this due to P's intolerance). I know this sounds stupid but can someone lead me by the hand here please? When do I move up from one cube? When do I introduce proteins?

Every purée I have made so far is completely smooth having been sieved after whizzing. Is that too much?

Oh! clarella! Poor wee soul. Bladder reflux? Sounds awful. Get stuck into those profiteroles.

Pass sounds a bit like what I've done. And the one lump in the pear puree that got through, she found. And spat it out with a look of great disdain. No clue when to increase the amount of stuff though.

Chasing yes to that! Re: SG incident, part of the discussion row after was that she was apparently in pain, and screamed like dh had never heard before. I must have repeated until I was blue in the face, that yes - that scream is when she is overtired!

Oh aye and MM. Fucking arse biscuits having the relies to stay. I hope little M spews on the 8 year old.

How is LO BP? I had a face at your description of her earlier

Thanks for info about banana quiche.
big sorry to read about swimming gate,
detective- I also second that men are a waste of space, the only way I got P to wash the dishes, is I didn't do them. Yes, I have eaten out of sauspans, but it was the only way.
pass what I have done is started off with one cube for a week, then next week increased to two cubes. As for protein, I introduced them when he was still having a whole bottle after feeding.

Evil

Pass the snot is abating, thank goodness. But still feeling sorry for herself. Funny the GP thought it was rotavirus, you would think P would be vomiting as well, or at least feel unwell. Still, whatever it is, I hope it goes soon.

Glad little pig is feeling a little bit better BP

I did ask about vomiting and he sort of did a 'meh' face. I think he plays a better safe than sorry card with babies. He is the one who sent us to paediatrics with P when her reflux kicked off. He knew what it was but didn't want to risk missing anything. He always makes me wonder if he has missed something and if forever atoning

My brain is frazzled. I keep reading stuff wrong like banana quiche and wondering why evil is giving her baby that.

I should probably be in bed!

Det that is shit.

Pass I hope P is better soon

Errr brain died.

We went to a pottery this afternoon and did lots of hand and foot painting was ace!

Tomorrow I leave him overnight for the first time. Am in bits.

Evening all, been reading throughout the day but e is poorly and has been really Velcro esque so I've not been able to post. He had a temperature last night and was up most of the night coughing. He's refused any solids today but I didn't really try to get him to eat them tbh, I just had them available and put the spoon toward him once, turning his head let me know he wasn't up for it and whilst he's poorly I want milk in him. Doctor said his throat is very sore so keep calpoling him and ride it out, take him to urgent care unit if he's worse over the weekend.

I have all the way from page 3 to catch up on, I'll be brief though because I'm tired bolloxed after a couple of shitty nights and a big family to sort. Dunno how some of you do this shit sleep thing regularly!

That's brill news bryz re the dc's hips!

katie my lo is called bean too! Has been his nickname since we found out we were expecting!

Glad weaning is going well sophia I love to hear about success with weaning, gives me hope that we'll get there eventually! I don't pray but good luck with things at work, hope it works out ok!

I also like cleaning and just can't settle if it's not done. I have been known to give in and get up in the small hours of the morning to clean up after collapsing in bed not having done it beforehand. I'll wake up and not be able to go back off because I'm thinking of how messy things are!

Sorry your trip to Canada has been cancelled gt :(

horsey that's a good idea, could do with getting e a money box and getting round to setting up his bank account

Sorry to read lo has bladder reflux clarella :(

Sounds like your dp is testing your patience det, wonder if he wants you to think it would be easier if you just sorted o? Am just thinking he might be trying to pull that one, my sister used to clean really badly in the hope mum would stop asking her to do chores! Tbh men can sometimes be so bloody difficult not you luis it IS easier to do it yourself!

Fucking hell dixie that Is brilliant! Well done!

Oh stunt that's awesome! I am too terrified shit to let e try such things but sounds like j did brilliantly!

pass I would maybe increase the amount to two cubes once she clears one for a couple of days. Haven't gotten there yet and probably won't for years a while but I am just thinking that's what I did re: upping oz's in bottles, so it makes sense to me. If e drained almost every bottle for 3 days and seemed hungry earlier I would add an oz per feed.

I am wondering most about timing of solids. I wonder if milk first then solids means e has very little interest in solids. But then if milk is most important it must stay this way? I can only assume he will eat more solids when he is ready, even if it's offered after a milk feed and not before. I have tried to aim for smack bang in the middle but this is hard as I don't always know when he will nap. Hope p enjoys her solids when you offer them :)

Since e is poorly I am sure I am once again taking a little break but no matter. It is fine. After he is better I think I need to get back into it with some structure maybe. This week I've just offered them at random and not pushed him to take any. Not sure that Is much of a long term plan though.

Glad little pig feels a bit better bplp hope she's fully recovered soon

35 mins ish till df. Not sure i can stay awake that long!

Oh kyz it sounds like E is very poorly. Poor thing. Poor you! As if you don't have enough to get done. How is your mum and the baby? You advice on the cubes makes sense. That's what I will do.

I hope you have a good night.

Hope E feels better soon kyz you are doing he right thing just offering and not pushing, I know that if I had a sore throat I'd not feel much like eating either. He will let you know when he is ready again.

9lb Dixie That's fab - well done.

Sorry about the bladder reflux clarella :(

kyzordz and bplp hope E and F are feeling better soon.

Where are you off to tomorrow night pikz ? (apologies if you've already said and I've missed it).

Thanks both, whilst I'm keen to get on with weaning I want him to be back to being my lovely bouncing e, and when he's like he has been today it breaks my heart :( he's not known what to do with himself, barely a smile all day and that is so unlike him

pass they're doing well :) mum is starting to get back into things but only gradually, she folds the odd basket of washing safely from the confines of the couch much to her dismay. I let her peel some potatoes yesterday too, made her feel useful again she said. I took a swift step to the side after saying 'useful, mum?' :p she knows I said it in jest

I thought the same fruit, e hasn't been so keen on weaning anyway but I can definitely understand his reluctance when he isn't well. He has taken about 4oz at a feed okay which is half of his usual amount. If I leave him a good 20 mins he will take another oz or two, but generally does not seem hungry. He seems to want water, and I worried he may fill up on it but he isn't drinking any more or any less when having water in between so I have let him have it, to keep his fluid intake up.

I'm sure he'll be bouncing me crazy again in a few days :)

Thanks kirrin sorry cross posted

Hello my friends...dd had weetabix for the first time today mixed with formula...eek just waiting to see how the poo is bites nails she didn't have a whole one so should be fine.

I am now even more cross .

I've just spent over an hour upstairs after O woke up 4 times. DP kept going back up, but I wanted to go to him myself to see what on earth was wrong.

So, he had wrapped his arms in a blanket, and tied it in a fucking knot for one. That is not fucking swaddling.

11 times I tried to transfer him. Each time he woke up the second he was put down. I tried cushioning him in so he still felt held. Nope. Tried without it. Nope. In despairation, I made dickhead bring the pram upstairs. Plonked him awake, unceremoniously in it, and he went straight to sleep. And I mean instantaneously. I didn't even get to rocking him, I moved from the end of the pushchair, took 2 steps to the handle, and he was asleep.

After feeling very fucking confused, I turned the vshape pillow around, so that his feet are now propped up, just as they are in the pushchair. He stayed asleep - or rather, went back to sleep, as he woke when I picked him back up.

So he is on his back, with his legs in the air.

What the actual fuck.

Note, I won't leave him like that, it is just til he is in a deeper sleep.

I'm so confused.