November 2012 - GTbaby is back! Hooray hooray!

[StuntNun]

And she only missed 10,000 posts!

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1717592-November-2012-Were-ready-for-Spring-any-time-now-please

Also (final question) - does teething ever make them cough? She keeps coughing and it's not clear if it's acid, dribble, or a viral-type of cough. Or something else

Just popped in. N has been like Velcro today. If you want to sock it to Ian Duncan smith sign this. The bastard!

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Evil

Lily - get the consultant to try great ormond st if she gets nowhere with st Thomas. They have a very good reputation for hips.

I have a theory re the dhs. I think to them our needs seem caught up with the babies' needs sometimes and they feel bottom of the pile too.

Fingers crossed for you pig. In fact fingers crossed for all of us. I get the feeling the whole quiche could do with a spot of shut eye tonight in preparation for thankful Thursday.

Pig could the excessive drool production make them cough? Trigger some kind of reflex? LO is also coughing at the moment. But then again so am I. And DD1, but she is also teething and has been coughing for months anyway. DH is also coughing but has been for months.

your dh theory is probably very true bry

melt down in hammock. back with me feeding. feel relieved as don't like that thing too much except for naps. god knows what tonight will bring but might just cosleep (if baby will bloody allow it!!)

Wishing everyone lovely long nights of uninterupted sleep and sweet dreams.

Ok wise quiche, anyone know what the hell this is? C has been down for 2 hours. I'd just come to bed. She starts straining, grunting and crying, and when I look in the crib she is arching her back madly. (She is swaddled so putting in a fair effort). She doesn't seem to be awake (or fully awake) but is making a hell of a noise. No sign of wind/poo/farting.

I've just given her calpol and trying to cuddle her back to sleep. What on earth is that about? Pain or something else? Teeth? Am baffled.

mama we have loads of that and it's wind/ tummy cramps/ heart burn stuff. you could try cycling her legs and rubbing tummy in clockwise direction or up over shoulder?

lo in cot. 2 hours later than usual. but at least it's a cot.

Fuck shit wanking crap. That's all I can manage today. Night night

Good luck clarella!

Sounds like wind mama

BP from my experience every ducking symptom is the same for every ducking thing! But yes, drool from teething makes then cough.

Yes please stunt :)

Thats great Fatima - when are you going back?

lily I'd be pushing for a referral here, safe in the knowledge that you can get an appointment in Hungary if you need to.

N has been proper Velcro today, I haven't been able to do anything. She goes from beaming smiles in my arms to proper heart rending sobs when put down in about a second. DP does seem to finally be getting why I've found it stressful - I think he has been writing me off as just moaning! This evenings run was his idea, and it felt good even if I was gloriously pathetic

Good luck bplp and every one else for a good night's sleep.

Thanks all - wind? Weird, she's never had an issue with that and I would have assumed she'd be growing out of it.

Anyway, attempt to settle failed miserably; husband tried to give bottle of ebm and she got quite hysterical; she's now feeding with me like a mad thing, like she's never eaten before.

Well. All this bodes for a jolly night.

babies are weird.

only other thing mama is if it continues for a few nights get her checked for uti.

night night all hope it's a gud un....

bplp E has been really dribbly today and coughing lots too. She is teething so could be excess dribble causes a cough. I think she's been generally very mucusy all round though so might not be just because of the dribble.

E slept for 12 hours last night I did do 2 tube feeds during this time but I have discovered one benefit to them. I can feed her without waking her up resulting in her sleeping longer. Whilst I'm loving the long sleeps I am worried that this is interfering with her natural pattern. If it carries on my supply will be non existent during the night. So should I:
A) leave her asleep and if I wake up do a tube feed
B) wake her up to breast feed
C) just leave her to sleep and not do a tube or bf unless she wakes
Does this make sense?
She's supposed to have a tube feed every 4 hours but if she misses one in the night I really don't think it would matter.

I realise this is a lovely dilemma to have and apologies if my post seems insensitive to those struggling with sleep issues.

Thanks to those who commented re my other post about DD1's horrific behaviour. She's been better today but still trying. We'll get there. She's a strong willed little thing. God help me when she hits the teenage years is all I can say

Right after that self indulgent post I forgot what else I was going to reply too so I'll revisit the thread now.....

mamapo E does this when she has reflux. She arches her back and puts her head to one side. So could it be some form of pain? Hope the calpol helps.

chasing have you tried putting oilatum in o's bath. The gp can give it to you on prescription. DD1 had it for her's (which has gone now). It helped sooth her skin.

lily sorry to hear of your struggles. I hope you get it sorted.

Forgot to say way to go Fatima, and good luck for tomorrow mr pidj and mr pr.

Eliza I think in your shoes I would do the tube feed without waking her, and express to keep supply going. Then talk to consultant re dropping a feed / changing timings to give a longer spell.

Head to one side is what penny does with reflux too.

eliza p started sleeping through after 3 days of tube feeding. It's like she just learned how to sleep. I had no supply worries though so you issue is not just sleep. I reckon she would sleep as long as you let her.

Thanks guys. pass I know what you mean about them learning how to sleep. E always needed boob to fall asleep but now it seems she just knows how to do it. It's amazing what a full tummy can do. bry you're right. I should express. I've been very crap and neglectful at doing it at any time let alone night time. I'll take my pump up with me tonight. I spoke to the dietician today but I need to call them back tomorrow after E's weekly weight check so I'll discuss dropping a night feed with them. I think tonight I will do a tube feed before I go to sleep and then just let her sleep and I will express in the night.

On that note, good night all. Hope everyone has a good one.

Oh and yes stunt please post your update on sleep training. I always find your posts very informative, helpful and interesting.

Bedtime in the buzzy household :) I'm so tired. Had a crap night last night so hoping for a good one tonight!

BigPig to do breast compressions cup your hand in a c shape around the breast about an inch away from baby's mouth then squeeze firmly, but not painfully so, pressing down on the glandular tissue. This should squirt a bit of milk into baby's mouth and start them sucking again. It's used to 'empty the breast' when feeding and also let's the baby get a last chug of hindmilk before you change sides or finish the feed. It's great for non-nutritive sucking because you can tell whether their sucking for food or for comfort. If they're just sucking for comfort then they'll take the squirt of milk but won't keep swallowing afterwards. If they're sucking for food then the squirt of milk will stimulate them to keep feeding. There's a good article here: breast compression and there are videos on YouTube.

Fuck shit wank piss. And my new favourite. Cock juggling thunder cunts.

Holy moly my legs are fucked. Been getting ready for Switzerland... ironing. Fucking ironing. All I can say is, thank fuck I got that new iron. It's fucking awesome. I almost enjoyed it. Note, almost. I'm not that nuts.

I've skim read. Sorry. It took me 30 fucking minutes to do that!

My little bit of today was because I have been so busy, I have been around O, but not done much with him. I took him with me when I went out to pick last minute bits up, but I suppose that doesn't count in his mind, as he is in the pram! So about 7.30pm, I finally sat down with him. He had been shouting on his changing mat, that not quite crying, but quite pissed off. Well as soon as I picked him up, it was like an explosion of excitedness! I stood him on my knee and did nothing but look at him, and he shouted, squealed, and had fits of giggles, over and over, shouting at me in excited tones! Was so funny!! I've never felt quite as appreciated .

Other news - O cried for the window down in the car. Please tell me, how the fuck have I managed to read this childs mind. It appears I have done... odd. Most odd.

Other news - O cried for the window down in the car. Please tell me, how the fuck have I managed to read this childs mind. It appears I have done... odd. Most odd

J is unbelievable at this. I've mentioned before he has no words, (but he has yes and no now). Even so, there is a certain phrase that adults use to us around him, almost word for word the same every time. "No, he does talk, he said something to me a few minutes ago. I can't remember what it was, but he said something".

Even when we were there the whole time.

As his grandad says, "If he doesn't talk, how is it I know exactly what he just said?"

i.e. I think actual words are less necessary than we tend to think, so I totally get the mind reading thing