November 2012 - We're ready for Spring... any time now please!

[StuntNun]

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I got her back to sleep by rocking not boob but then she woke up as soon as I put her in the cot. I tried again but I can't let her cry for long cos she'll wake DD1 up so I let her latch on. Straight to sleep. Basically I've given up on the second attempt.
I think we've been doing this this since the day she was born. Every so often she throws in a night or 2 of better sleep, once she did a whole week only waking up twice, but then it starts all over again.

There's no need to stagger paracetamol and ibuprofen as they are broken down by different pathways in the body. It is a good idea to stagger them so as to provide continuous pain relief. My DS1 has a very fast metabolism - rake thin and never gets cold - and I find the paracetamol wears off too quickly so that he will be hurting before he's allowed the next dose.

Lily my J was waking up hourly frequently but he's back to 3-4 hourly now at 19 weeks.

It was believed to be a cytokine storm YW in the Spanish 'flu epidemic. Cytokines are intracellular messengers in the body, there are hundreds of different ones and they can affect each other. Basically the body's immune system gets ramped up and up and up and does damage to the body. You know how shit you feel when you have the 'flu? Most of that is caused by what your immune system is doing to fight off the virus. So the reason the Spanish 'flu caused so many deaths was that the healthiest people with the best immune systems were vulnerable to the cytokine storm. But that doesn't happen with normal 'flu.

Chasing this thread has a lot of people that will be able to support you, a lot of them are making their escape plans now as well. I know you are bowed under by all the stress and worry at the moment but please trust me, the first step you take towards freedom will lift your mood no end. You will be doing something to escape this chapter of your life. If you could only walk out that door right now. But take your time, gather your information, get your resources sorted out and don't give any hint to your STBXP that you will be leaving. The best thing will be for you to make a clean and rapid break. Ideally he goes to work and when he comes home you, O and your stuff are gone. Make sure he can't get on your MM account to read any of this. Once you're free of him he will need time to come to terms with that before you will be able to make arrangements for him to see O and it will have to be somewhere that is safe for you. Please make sure your HV knows how serious the situation is so that it is recorded in her notes. Don't worry whether you feel strong or not, just keep plugging away one day at a time until you are ready to leave him for ever. But definitely have a look at -that thread as there are lots of people in a similar situation to yourself.

She was up at 9, 11,2,4 and 5.30. I am beyond tired. What I don't get is that she slept much better as a newborn so why now' i am used to sleeping, I don't want to give my sleep up. This is night 2 of frequent wakings. Not sure whether offer her milk or not, she gets enough during the day. But than she cries till the bottle goes into her mouth. How will I survive the day?

She is in my bed now, playing. I will not give her milk till 7. No. No. I said no. Sigh.

Lily I had that for the last 2 weeks. It was a kller. Last 2 nights he hasvonly woken once though. She will snap out of it. Just focus on survival till she does.

Stunt - you know so much! You're amazing . I think you should change your name to oraclenun.

Stunt I knew you'd know. Am loving my ad hoc spelling attempt!

yw I am really enjoying it. Have tried Kate Aitkinson before and not got on with her but this one is a great read.

chasing make the move. All you have to do is say to tat HV when you see her at weigh in or whatever I am looking to move to Hampshire as that s where I ave a support network and at time in my life this is what I need. It starts proverbial ball rolling.

Thanks guys for my flu support. I will try spreading the doses out today from the relief point of view, I am hoping that yesterday was the peak and things can only get better.. Poor old thing is still asleep and that is very unlike him.

Am going to creep downstairs with Little O who s about to try his first yoghurt!

Sophia I loved it but found the end a bit of a letdown.

Jacob slept through from 10 last night to now. Sadly the girls did not.

Way-hay VQ Prince!!
Sorry about the girls though

Has anyone got a guide (online) of what food to try when?
I thought yoghurt was after 6 months?
We tried sweet potato mash yesterday as his first good he seemed confused but liked it.

We're in bed ATM. Trying to mk him fall asleep. He seems alot more interested in talking tho. Ill give it 15mins then I give up n go down for breakfast.

My sis is off to harrods today. I wana go but car has a flat, n to scared to carry LO up escalators at Knightsbridge ! So a day of sorting laundry instead. I guess I better unpack!

So I'm 13 weeks prego. MS was better in India. But got letter in post saying my booking in bloods show I'm slightly anaemic. Which will explain my extreme tieredness . So need to figure out what to do about that.

Will get pics on FB ASAP. Although will try to do unpacking first lol.

On the reading front I've been reading the same book since September I used to be a real book worm. Think I need a good easy book to get started again. Like a shopaholic type book.

OMG LO is asleep! I'm going to sneak down for breakfast.

Will share more about holiday later.

Ps. Massive hugs to those having troubles of any kind xxx

vq Brilliant boy :) What happened with the girls?

Is pr about? How is LO this morning?

stunt I second the oraclenun suggestion

gt I have always resisted the mw trying to give me iron tablets cos they (tmi) bung me up like no one's business. I asked her to give me until the next appointment to sort it out and then troughed tonnes of lentils and spinach, washed down with orange juice. My iron count was through the ceiling at my next appointment

yw I am SO impressed that you have just got back into running. I tried running after one of my kids in the park a few weeks ago. The feeling of enormo-boobs and other general flab swinging from side to side was enough to put me off the idea for a while

cat the girls have a nasty cough. They often puke with the coughing so I tend to be quite tuned in to it. At about 2am the little one climbed into bed with us so I had to return her. She sleeps like a starfish so had she stayed I would have not got any more rest, and sadly I am too big for her pink toddler bed. DD1 has sleep apnoea anyway due to tonsils the size of small planets.

Jacob woke gurgling. He is snotty too, but quite happy with it.

Don't forget it is April Fools Day today.

vq Poor things. Worst thing is not really being able to do anything for them, when it is just a cough, and they can hang around for weeks. While my kids don't tend to throw up with a cough, DH does and that is bad enough On the bright side, at least J managed to sleep through it all. He does seem to be getting the hang of it now, doesn't he? :)

The coughs hang around for weeks. Hopefully the children will hang around longer

Morning. LO has no temperature, ate 9-10oz overnight, and another 3 so far this morning. Crying loads. I guess we just have to wait for the ear drum to go again -this is exactly the same pattern as last time. We are considing taking her in but unsure what anyone would do.

DH is going to take her in. Something is wrong, and we may as well eliminate stuff today. Hope they don't keep her in.

I am just using the GF weaning guide which i used for the other three. As a guide. The first breakfasts were yogurt with fruit. Seeing as L O has formula which has cow dairy in it it's not really introducing anything new and he will have it for three days and the rest of his stuff will be stuff he has had so if he has a reaction I know it is the yoghurt.

As an anecdote, someone I know on facebook, who had a baby the day after me, started giving baby food jars at about 13 weeks. And said baby jar food was the roast chicken dinner or something. I was a bit scared to say anything as I am meak and she is a bit mouthy. I was surprised none of her good friends or maily said anything. I doubt she was told by HVs to do that.

pr poor Little one. Keep us posted, in a way I hope it is just the other ear and nothing new. Then you know it can be sorted. Thinking of you.

Just noticed a slight rash covering her torso as I was changing her. Looks like heat rash. Anyway, they've just left, I'll update later. My poor baby.

Hope your LO is ok PR

sophia 13 weeks?! Crikey. I was a little fearful at starting mine when they were almost 20 weeks. Some women in the opticians were telling me that I should get mine on baby rice when they were 14 weeks old "My son started on baby rice when he was 12 weeks and it didn't do him any harm". Ah well, I should totally do it then!

pr Sorry to hear it is all ramping up again. I had recurrent glue ear as a little child and have experienced perforated eardrums as a teenager. Have to say, after childbirth, the build up to my ear drum perforating was the most painful thing I have ever experienced (although I am inclined to think it is probably less agonising in infants as the ear drum gives a little easier). There was an audible bang when it finally split (to me, not anyone else!) and the relief was unbelievable. I don't think there is anything you can do until it splits except administer pain relief, although I would be pushing the doctors to investigate the underlying cause of the fluid build-up?

catbag long term has your hearing suffered for it?

Hugs pr

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