November 2012 - We're ready for Spring... any time now please!

[StuntNun]

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PR I have chuckled once or twice freakin' loads over the pr route of meds alongside your name...they do use up-bum meds loads more over there, and it's a much more efficient way of delivering a lot of drugs. We only use it here for paracetamol for kids in hospital (rarely) and anti-inflammatories post-C section. Not much else. People make this face -> or this one -> when you suggest it.

F managed 1hr 40 for her nap, v proud. Fatima will tell F to send your LO her crash course in napping. Sorry to hear you're having a tough day.

bp glad I was not the only one.

pr nowt wrong with a bum fetish, nowt at all. It is a very good method for medication. Years back I was on anti-inflammatories long term, and pr diclofenac is awesome. I agree it is a fab route for kids meds, especially if they are vomiting.

Agh all you medical people taking my perfectly innocent username and twisting it into a twisted medical in joke :o .

From now on I will only answer to Petite or YourFabulousness :o and I will defend the use of suppositories on babies til my dying breath.

It does amuse me on MN when people go all and about the post c-section one. You'll either be knocked out completely or won't be able to feel a thing, will have a catheter that someone will have looked very closely at your woo woo to insert, will possibly have been shaved by a stranger, and a whole lot of people have just opened you up and pulled a noisy little creature out and all this time you have been butt naked. If you've been in labour before the section complete strangers will have been sticking their hands in your fanjo and possibly having a good ol' rummage. And after all that people get embarassed about a pain killer?

Then again I have lived in France for a long time, and a good friend talks about bowel movements in her FB status updates so maybe I have been desensitised.

J is still asleep. He went down at 11.15. He looks so peaceful. I have had to wake him the last two days, so we may be a tad late for baby clinic. I collected the px for the milk this morning, so there is no urgency.

So, plans for Easter? I have done nothing. I have bought nothing. Easter in my home as a child was all about suffering. Watching Jesus of Nazareth, and feeling the guilt was horrid as a small child. We never had eggs. We do not make a big fuss now, but we do have an egg hunt. Need to buy some really.

I did call you petite for a while, but pr is quicker to type.

Tomorrow while DD1 is at creche for the last time we are going to the British shop to stock up on pickled onion flavoured monster munch, pataks pastes and mini eggs. Then in the afternoon a pregnant friend is coming round and I am hoping she will empty my garage of baby clothes and promise faithfully to come every few months for more.

The rest of the weekend I will sit on my arse eating pickled onion monster munch and mini eggs until I burst. DD1 will have an easter egg but I'll do something like an egg hunt next year.

I am so tired, S is asleep and I really should be getting on with the housework but I just can't be bothered. I'd love to have a nap myself but experience tells me as soon as I shut my eyes she will open hers. I may just veg in front of the telly with a mini creme egg.

Mmmm I haven't had pickled onion monster munch for years, they used to be my fave!

Why. Does. My. Baby. Not. Like. Eating??

Food or milk?

Milk PR. She shows categorically no interest in solid food yet.

She seems to have decided that she only wants 5 bottles a day. That would be fine if she took more than a few mouthfuls. She has just screamed blue murder because I had the audacity to presume that she might be hungry 4 hours after her last bottle.

She does have a cold so maybe she just doesn't feel like it.

I could live without a sodding battle every time though.

fruit do vegging. As soon as I shut my eyes P whimpers

LO was like that when she had her ear infection, which followed on from a cold. Do you think she is in pain when she screams? Does she have a temperature?

No temperature that I can tell. I did wonder yesterday if she might be in pain. I gave her calpol, waited half an hour and she downed a full 6 oz. the problem is she only takes about 22oz in a day anyway. She just seems massively disinterested. I have no idea what her hungry noise is anymore because she just doesn't do one.

The four days before LO's eardrum perforated her only real symptom was no interest in food and general fussiness. No fever. Only relieved by paracetamol and after a dose she would eat. Even took her to the doctor and there was nothing to remark. Then the next morning she was better but had gunk right round her ear and she has been fine since, though on medication til yesterday. Ear infections are common after a cold. Would it be worth having her checked out? What you are describing does sound very similar.

Izzy the plan to feed more in the day time to reduce night feeding is a good 'un, shame it isn't working. My suggestion (please feel free to ignore if you don't like it) would be to let him go hungry at night so that he will be hungry when you want him to be. Perhaps after 2 or 3 a.m. you could only offer him cooled boiled water so that by 7 a.m. he is ready for a proper feed. It would mean one bad morning but it sounds like you're having that anyway. My suggestion for naps would be to get him to nap by any means possible. Would he sleep in the car seat for half an hour while you were out? Or go for a long walk with him in the pram? Or would he nap in the sling? Basically do anything to get him to sleep during the day do that he isn't overtired at nighttime.

My new plan for sorting out my J is...

Feeding Feed him on a schedule of 7 am, 11, 2 pm, 5 (EBM), 7.30, 10.30 and 2.30 am or as near to those times as manageable. After his 10.30 dream feed I will not feed him until after 1.30 am so any other wakenings I will offer cooled boiled water then dummy and cuddle back to sleep. After that I will not feed him before 6 am. Hopefully this will lead to him taking enough at each feed to last him a longer time but I will burp him or change his nappy to get him to feed for longer if I think he hasn't taken enough.

Sleeping Nap times are 9 to 9.30 am and noon to 2 pm. If he falls asleep in the afternoon I won't let him sleep any later than 5 pm. Naps will preferably be in his cot in a darkened room but I will do anything to make sure he gets a good sleep, i.e. dummy, cuddling or sleeping on me.

Once the above plan is established I will start sleep training to get him to go to sleep by himself in his cot. I will try different methods such as shush-pat or pick up-put down but I think it will be easier to sleep train him once he is used to going to sleep at those times of day as he will be primed to sleep. After this I will decide whether to try and get him to drop the night feed. I will continue the dream feed until either he won't take it or he is getting substantial quantities of solids during the day.

Sometimes ear infections make it hurt to swallow pass so they refuse milk.

Hmm. chunky and pr you chaps might be on to something. I wondered yesterday if she had a sore throat as it seemed like it was sore to swallow.

Right. I shall calpol her when she wakes from her nap and see if she takes anything. She never seems to get a temperature and actually always sits on the cool side temp wise.

Stunt I am printing off your schedule as we speak. I need to start getting strict with M during the day as she is taking the piss come bedtime. She is also going into her own room tonight with a mattress on the floor for neurotic mummy as her room is much darker and quiter than ours. She is better when dp is on nights or in the spare room so I have decided he is unsettling her.

meals SIL worships her big brother fuck knows why, he cant stand her so doubt anything I say will change her opinion. She needs to see it for herself.

Crikey. Just read 414 messages. L is napping as is DH and ILs have gone for a walk with L's cousin (22mo).

Shelley v sorry to hear about your dad. Wishing you and your family all the best. It is hard to give formula when you are bf but it is absolutely fine and you are just doing your best at a stressful time.

Eliza well done on the weight gain. So glad things are improving. I had L weighed on Tues and he has hit the 2nd centile! So exciting.

VQ what a rude woman at the school. Your baby is gorgeous and bouncing. I can only dream of 98th centiles. I get sick of the 'isn't he tiny' comments too.

I have always thought it unfair that lady parts don't have a low-key, child-friendly alternative. I suppose 'bits' is an easy way to talk about male or female genitals in terms of bathtimes or illness? But other than that I agree we need a catch-all term. Fou fou (or frou frou?) reminds me of the Ben Elton sketch if anyone recalls that. I love the MN preference 'fanjo' but DH does not.

So the plane journey was feckin' awful. Big delays due to freak weather in Dublin, baby wide awake as soon as we boarded, scratchy during flight and then screamed like a banshee as soon as we started descent until after we landed. Continuously and unstoppably, despite dummy, breast etc, he must have been in pain poor thing. We got a lot of stares (some sympathetic) when everyone was getting off. Then discovered they'd left our case in London. Luckily we had the one with formula, meds etc but all his clothes etc were there. Anyway to be fair they had it delivered to our door last night so we are all ok now. Sleeping was not much different from usual, feeds at 9pm, 12m and 4.30am with a few wakings in between. We brought Ewan etc but L is very confused I think at all the new stuff he is having to process.

stunt that routine looks great. I really hope J falls into line.

Ladies, I have just looked at the NHS website for ear infections and she has every symptom apart from a temperature. She had diarrhoea yesterday and is certainly out of sorts.

Obviously this would happen on a holiday weekend! I will treat with calpol and cross my fingers. I know I can dose twice in 24 hours but what about nurofen? I don't think she is in that much discomfort but just in case I need to tide her over until we can see a doc.

Typical that we have a massively busy weekend

pass I would ring gp today and try to get seen as an emergency today - better than to leave things to chance. If she needs antibiotics, then thee sooner the better x

Hope everyone is well.

I have a question for the more experienced mummies out there. The girls are are 6 months old tomorrow - eek!

I weaned them for a week on one meal of veg, then the second week has been two meals of veg & fruit, I plan to do three meals a day from next week with porridge oats, fruit & veg. My question is, can I introduce plain Greek yoghurt from 6 months ie: tomorrow? Also toast/bread, we make our own bread, when can they have that from? I am presuming the can have everything but honey and nuts from 6 months old but want to double check.

garden according to the NHS weaning booklet the HV gave me for DD says wheat & gluten is ok after 6mths, as is egg, fish, shellfish, soft cheese. Obviously whole nuts, honey & unpasteurised foods are to be avoided. I should think a full-fat plain yog is fine.

If she eats after calpol pass that would indicate that she is somehow in pain so good to get her seen before the long weekend.