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StuntNun · 13/03/2013 22:29

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1703340-November-2012-Four-months-Oh-no-the-dreaded-sleep-regression

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Pikz · 17/03/2013 06:58

7.30-3.30-6.15. That's my boy!

I fucking loves the fact F1 is back. DP more than happy to get up.

PurplePidjin · 17/03/2013 06:59

Lily, for dn's 20th recently we wrote "Happy Birthday DN" in big felt tip letters on cereal box card and sat him in his bumbo with it propped up in his lap. Photo went on his Facebook (he's an enthusiastic Big Cousin) Something like that?

ChasingDaisy · 17/03/2013 07:12

I was reading in night but too tired to post. Two night feeds then O in with me from 5:45. He's still asleep on me now and I'm enjoying the cuddles.

Need to get us both up soon though if we have any chance of being ready for our SIL visiting today.

ValiumQueen · 17/03/2013 07:14

Sorry you had a rotten night 311

If people are up in night do post even if nothing to say. It helps to know you are not the only one awake

PetiteRaleuse · 17/03/2013 07:22

Morning all. Shite night here. I went to bed early with DD1 and DH was going to do the dream feed. Except he yet again decided to not do the dream feed, so LO was up at 1. Told him he had to deal with as it was his fault and he fed her in the cot, so didn't change her nappy. So she was up again at 3 until 5.30, furious and hungry and uncomfortable in her nappy. DH stayed up with her, but I was awake the whole time, listening and cursing the ability that men have in that situation to just drop off. Angry i didn't come on here or FB though.

How many times do I have to say, don't drop the fucking dream feed. We get 8-10 hours solid if we do the dream feed. And no she has eaten so puch during the night there is no way she'll be back on routine by tonight. For a start she hasn't got up for her 7am feed. Am going to go and wake her in a while.

Agreed willies are embarassing and dangly. To be kept away at all times other than useful moments.

Luis loads of women are twats too. But there are a lot of men who are twats.

Sandwiches and toast taste much better as triangles.

kirrinIsland · 17/03/2013 07:24

That's great pikz Hopefully we'll all be having nights like that soon!

pp that's interesting. It's the self settling part I'm getting nowhere struggling with. I've tried white noise, quiet music and the Hoover but with no success. Actually, the Hoover was the most promising but also the least practical! And my Hoover noise app just didn't cut it apparently....

N did 21.45 - 02.40 which is awesome, but then every hour after that. Still, we do appear to be getting somewhere hope I haven't spoken too soon

PetiteRaleuse · 17/03/2013 07:27

And welcome meals don't be shy.

kirrinIsland · 17/03/2013 07:27

Sandwiches are rectangular. I don't cut toast at all and eat round the edges first

PurplePidjin · 17/03/2013 07:36

It's a bit hit and miss but it's working more frequently. He feeds to sleep, then cuddles my favourite bit for 5-10 minutes while i finish what I'm reading on mn then he goes down. When he stirs i get up and start Ewan, if he keeps on i know he's hungry. Sometimes he goes back to sleep for a bit. Not perfect but i got 7:15 to 5:45 last night with two wakings.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/03/2013 07:44

Morning all. Welcome meals

I am in the triangle sandwich camp. Although I don't mind a finger shaped sandwich on occasion with my afternoon tea. Grin

Feel a bit dishevelled this morning and fat.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/03/2013 07:45

None of my tights fit me. Even though they fit me at this weight before.

Does that justify binning them and a trip to Marks and Spencer's?

Pikz · 17/03/2013 07:52

Yes Sophia it does.

Kirrin it was lovely and I feel very lucky. He's slowly been stretching his feeds. We are massive Ewan users. I'm frightened not to as he self settles so well with it.

Pikz · 17/03/2013 07:53

Welcome meals!

Daddy knackered baby out playing... He's just been delivered back to me asleep! Bonus!

fruitpastilles · 17/03/2013 08:30

Morning all!
Welcome meals
S has been up for the day since 5:30 and is now knackered and screaming! I hope she falls asleep soon I need a shower fucking stink dp snoring in bed and has been all night, I felt like twatting him too!
Hugs to those who had shit nights, although reading back, last night seemed quite quiet which is good! Hope that was due to sleeping babies.

LuisGarcia · 17/03/2013 08:36

Morning everyone. zzzzz

MissMummy1 · 17/03/2013 08:40

Contra we are touchwood coming out of 3/4 weeks of sleepdodging. Think no naps in the day, awake on long car journeys and 10 mins max in cot at night. Most of that whinging.

I have taken this week out while he is at sea to cosleep and start a strict routine. Lats night she did an hour with me then 5 hours straight in her cot! Grin . Back in with me at 6 and she is still asleep. I am hoping by Thursday she will be almost sleeping through again and I can move her into her own room as I think DP and her disturb each other at night.

I feel like shit this morning. I've lost my voice, my head is spinning and I have to go to work for 2 hours this afternoon Sad

StuntNun · 17/03/2013 08:53

I really like our playnest Pikz as when babies start to sit unaided then they tend to fall suddenly and completely miss the cushions you have around them whereas the playnest surrounds them. It is also quite difficult for them to get out of when they're starting to crawl so you can stash them in there when you need to jump up and answer the door or something and it will take them a while to escape!

Move bedtime slowly Glenda, 15 minutes a day, and don't forget the clocks go forward at the end of the month so your 11 o'clock bedtime will suddenly be a 12 o'clock bedtime. Confused It's good news for the early risers though. Grin

I wouldn't fret too much about tummy time if your LOs hate it. They didn't have tummy time when my first two were babies and they still managed to learn to crawl etc. Also they don' have to be lying prone, you can have them lying on your chest or over a pillow.

I'm completely out of maternity clothes I just had to buy clothes in a bigger size . I wouldn't fit in Sophia's vest tops as I am an L. Hmm The extra weight will just magically disappear though won't it? Ignores Chinese meal on Friday and steak dinner followed by ice cream yesterday.

DH got up at 4:30 to watch the Grand Prix. Silly boy, now he's tired! It was great for me though as he took J with him to initiate the F1 brainwashing. Also as we had wine with dinner last night (steak, homemade chips, onion rings and fried mushrooms - nom) DH had to give J his dream feed so I got to slope off to bed. I have had seven hours sleep! With just one feed in the wee hours.

You're getting the best of both worlds VQ with mixed feeding, a break for you during the day but lots of lovely antibodies for J.

MM you didn't hear it from me but you can buy antibiotic eye drops over the counter if you tell the pharmacist they're for an adult.

Welcome Meals, get comfy and if you see a fish heading your way then duck. There's no escape from the quiche now. Get thee on Facebook as well, there are cute baby photos there! Is cranial osteopathy a bit woo? I thought it was good for some physiological problems but is also being sold as a magic cure for some crazy things like ADHD.

I second Rooty's thought about infected eczema, Dermol is very good for that as it is anti microbial. Also you can use it as a soap substitute in the bath and also apply it as a lotion. I use it on J's forehead eczema because he keeps scratching at it no matter how much I cut his nails.

Don't be mean Detective, those embarrassing dangly things have come in useful once or twice, three times in my case. Pun intended.

Contra look at the Troublesome Tots website for sleep advice. If she is awake for three hours then she is definitely overtired. J doesn't yawn but he does start rubbing his eyes when he's tired. I have started putting him in his sleeping bag for daytime naps in the hope that he associates it with night sleeping. You could try having a wind down time after she has been awake for an hour so cuddle her with the curtains closed, maybe singing quietly or read her a story. It could be too fast a transition from awake time to nap time without a chance to unwind. You may be better to concentrate on getting her to nap anywhere, e.g. sling, swing or pram at first as sleeping in the cot can be tricky. I sometimes boob J to sleep in my bed but he will often wake after 10 minutes when I try putting the dummy in, and needs to be re-boobed at 45 minutes to one hour whereupon he goes back to sleep. She needs to get into a sound sleep for her nap. I like Luis's idea of walking her in the pram 80 minutes after she wakes up. Make sure she is toasty warm and keep walking for at least ten minutes after she falls asleep so that she goes into a deeper sleep. Can you park the pram in the house somewhere so that if she starts to stir you can rock it back and forwards to get her back to sleep (lock the front wheels for this if they swivel). I cannot get J to nap in his cot at all, he will scream blue murder if you go near it. But he sleeps there at night! I have removed all the toys and the mobile from the cot now to make sure it isn't too stimulating. Also I pull the curtains for day naps so it's darker in the room but not very dark so there's a difference between day and night sleeps.

Oh and for others with sleep-dodgers like mine, it gets much easier when they're mobile because you can tire them out. I remember building block stacks just out of reach of DS1 before he could crawl and he would squirm over on his belly to knock then down. Wore him out in no time! Fresh air and baths (not at the same time) are also good for sleepiness.

Sophia I'd say a trip to M&S is practically mandatory. Grin

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PetiteRaleuse · 17/03/2013 08:58

OMFG DH has just told me about when he cameto bed last night he lay down and was tickled by a huge fuck off spider. In my bed. He killed it. My hero.

Agggggghhhhhhhhhh today that room is getting blitzed. Agh. I fucking hate spiders.

fruitpastilles · 17/03/2013 09:25

Mmmm dp just made me a big fat bacon and egg sarnie! Last nights snoring is forgiven.

Happy St Patrick's day to all

Evilwater · 17/03/2013 09:26

Another crap night here. N woke at 6, I think he wanted to play. He was just very unhappy, no crying just very whingy.

Evil

TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor · 17/03/2013 09:32

Morning all! Welcome meals, I can't believe how long you have lurked. I've become a lurker this week as I've been having feeding issues and have been too stressed to post.

Big hugs to wellies and chasingdaisy, you are both in my thoughts.

contra, it's a good day to be Welsh Grin. With naps, I second what luis said about the 90 min rule. B is like clockwork, 90 mins after waking she rubs her face into my shoulder. I Swaddle for all naps, dummy in, curtains closed and place her in her cot. I walk away and close the door and usually potter around upstairs until she is settled. B won't boob to sleep, won't be rocked and won't sleep with any distractions. Hope you get in cracked soon.

Catbag · 17/03/2013 09:35

Morning all, and welcome meals. You totally get some kind of lurker's award Grin

Right. I have been trying to get to Ikea since Wednesday. Each day something has happened to stop me. I decided on Friday that I would go on Saturday. MIL volunteered to come with to assist with the small people .

8am Saturday I go to start the bus car so as to go fill up before MIL arrives. No. Car will not start, and instead offers me a loud 'tacktacktack' noise from the left hand side of the car. Ffs. Not impressed. Make executive decision to steal DH's car for the day (only youngest three kids coming so will fit in the back) as he is currently nocturnal and will not need it. Hoik the two babies' frikkin enormous car seats out of the Chrysler, along with the booster for M, and spend twenty minutes getting them strapped into the Passat. Also had to clean out said Passat as was full of empty Red Bull cans and other crap.

MIL arrives, we strap the three kids into the back, put half a tank of diesel in at the local garage and we are on our way. I drive 4 miles before I notice that there is some sort of smoke/ steam coiling out of the space right next to the windscreen, and also from the aperture that the stereo goes in. Cue slight mental panic (wtaf is that? Omg, my babies are in the back and poss breathing in noxious fumes. Is the car about to burst into flames? etc, etc). I pull over and turn off car. Clearly, for what ever reason, the universe is quite set on my not making the hour's journey up the A1 to Ikea. I decide to stop fighting universe, turn round and drive 4 miles home, with the windows wound right down. I don't mind not going to Ikea. I mind the universe breaking two cars to do it Angry

MIL offered to try and fit the babies' carseats into the back of her Kia Picanto(!) so we could go anyway. I decline, on the basis that I do not want to break her car also.

I spent the rest of the day being sat in the living room at the mercy of M's dvd choices. Barbie and the Three Musketeers (twice), Clash of the Titans (she wandered off half way through), Enchanted (just awful). I came close to losing will to live.

I suspect whatever I was going to spend at Ikea is now going to be going on car repairs

Catbag · 17/03/2013 09:38

dicks You ok? Brew

mm Flowers Sorry to hear about ex bf x

Catbag · 17/03/2013 09:43

PR Your DH is a hero, although if it were me, I am not sure that I wouldn't prefer not to know that said incident occurred. Ignorance is bliss and all that!

Passmethecrisps · 17/03/2013 09:44

Fuck shit fuck catbag. I hate cars. Well, I like cars but I hate them when they go wrong.

Well, p is having another day of nap avoidance. She is in her basket as she asked to be. However, if I walk away she cries. If I sit on the sofa she whines then cries. So. I am currently sitting on the floor watching dexter.