May 2004 babies - new thread

[helsy]

Well, d'you think anyone will bother?
I feel like I'm having a party and waiting for people to turn up. Dorito, anyone?

I hope things get easier. I am dreading DH going back to work on Wednesday. DD is still having massive tantrums over everything, although still only with me! she turns into a whinging DD when im around but is good for everyone else.
The hv came and did her 2 yr check and said her speech is v advanced as she should only now be putting 2 words together but shes using adjectives etc and string sentences together.

She very loving towards DS at the moment, a bit too loving and insists on kissing cuddling him all the time. The poor thing doesnt get any peace. I have caught her giving him a bit of a poke in the eye though! oh and shes now obsessed with willies and tells me how grandad and daddy have got willies at the most inappropriate places.

See kbaby we are now on role reversal because it is DD injuring her big brother. Although DS has never been too rough with DD - occasionally lashed out when she has been too rough/in your face with him.

Well I took them swimming and it was really quiet. Got DS to the point of jumping in holding one hand. DS was also swimming on his back and DD decided to have a go but wouldn't lay back. She looked so funny trying to swim upright. They are now practicing putting noses in the water in the bath with DH. We will get DS confident!

Congratulations Kbaby! Love the name James - my girls have "classical" names with lots of short versions if they decide they want to change them when they're older.

Got back from France yesterday (Southern Normandy, nowhere near any beaches, staying at a friend's holiday home). We were away for nine days in all and had a lovely time. The girls spent most of their time in the outdoor swimming pools or running about in parks and got on really well together.
I'm thinking of starting dd2's potty training in the next week or so. She seems ready, it's just a case of finding the right time.
She was hitting a bit in France - we all got it - slaps, headbutting (very unpleasant), poking with sharp objects ("mummy, dd2's just stabbed me with the chicken's beak!"). She has a naughty space (we don't call it that) but seems to enjoy going there! I don't smack, and I don't really shout at her because it has no effect other than to upset me. She is usually very loving but she has been known to slap immediately after saying sorry, too. Any suggestions? We are all very affectionate with one another - if a bit shouty at times - so I find the hitting a bit hard to deal with.

hi all. lovely name kbaby. hope you are doing well.

afraid i dont have any tips on curing bad behaviour. although dd is an only one i dont spose i really need to do much atm, she is really very good. i tend to just think 'it will pass, it's their age' when she goes through a phase but thats prob just brushing it aside rather than dealing with it.

feeling ROUGH at the mo. def didnt have sickness like this with dd. felt hungry and tired but not sick. its awful. only 7.5wks so ages to go b4 i feel better. hmph. should be grateful i guess. just worrying now when people say that symptoms are worse when its twins. no no nooo

did any of you second time mums have worse sickness with one pregnancy? and do you think it was related to sex of baby?

No egypt you feel worse when you are pregnant and have a toddler. I was sooo incredibly tired and probably equally sick with both. Actually vomited only once with each but spent quite a lot of time hovering over the toilet at work thinking I was going to be. And definitely hungry, eating for energy really. Also I had a tendency right through both pregnancies (think it was related to low blood pressure) to feel dizzy and faint. In fact with DS I did manage to faint in the canteen at work whilst queueing behind a senior manager in a rather embarassing fashion. So I needed to keep my blood sugars up. Anyway after all that waffle just wanted to say that it really is hard work those first few weeks and you have big sympathies from me.

helsy where did you in Normandy? We are going on Saturday to an inland place. It is in the middle of nowhere near a tiny village called Amigny north of St Lo. Followed by a week in northern Brittany. What was the weather like? It is freezing in Yorkshire. Took the kids to a transport fair in a park with my friend and then they went on the playground and we were both frozen.

egypt, i felt far more tired with ds and also had to eat all the time to stop me feeling so sick.
cant offer any advice helsey on the hitting as we have the same problem. dd is just too assertive and bossy

Hi Egypt,

I had hypermesis with both mine but with dd2 it was much much worse, and yes it is even harder when you have a toddler already because you feel bad saying you're ill and don't want to pick them up all the time. It does pass though, just keep reminding yourself of that and get all the help you can while you're feeling rough - one Dr I saw was adamant that feeling stressed made the sickness worse.
Bozza we went to a village near Mayenne in Southern Normandy. I must have put on a stone eating cheese! I do love Brittany, too.

DH has been up half the night with v+d - think it was picked up from what the kids had last week. DS was up on the Saturday night feeling sick etc, and then DD was sick in her sleep on the Monday night. Nice that one. Then they have both had a funny sort of diarhea for over a week. Only once a day or so but pretty grim. DH reckons that going out for a Chinese set meal yesterday lunchtime has poisoned him. Whereas I am more of the opinion that you don't do that if you have been having stomach gripes for a couple of days.

So now I am getting stressed about a) getting everything sorted for the holiday and b) getting poorly just in time for the holiday.

oh dear bozza, i do hope your brood recovers soon. i dread the time when we all get the same dose of illness. been good so far - touch wood.

as for the morning sickness, my friend gave me some seabands (wrist bands) that we put on your pressure points and are supposed to stop nausea. since putting them on yesterday i have felt loads better. hardly any sickness at all. not sure if its because of those or not but darent take them off to find out! thing is they are so tight my wrists are beginning to look a bit puffy so think i should tongiht!

been to have our hair cut at mils tonight. its a way to travel but her hairdresser is great with dd and dd is a nightmare to cut so its worth it. she stood at the kitchen sink washing up whilst she had her haircut tonight and didnt batter and eyelid so that was a real winner. i still have flshbacks of the first time i took her to the haridressers and this '12' year old cut her hair whilst i held in a head lock. brrrr

LOL at the headlock egypt. I have a friend who is a mobile hairdresser and has a DS who is the same age as mine. And she does mine and a few friends and all the kids at the same time. So DD has seen DS get his hair cut (while whinging because he has had to stop playing) and also more importantly my friend's 4yo DD who is a big girl and DD's role model. "DD wee on the toilet like X, DD big girl like X". "DD sleep in a big girl bed like X" etc.

The kids really haven't been so bad TBH. DD was sick in her sleep and then had a bit of the runs which is slightly worrying in a just potty trained 2yo - but has managed OK with no accidents. Just a couple of dirty nappies in the morning. Her appetite has been down a bit but she has been running around happily enough. DS was a bit off the weekend before last. But DH has, of course, got it in man-sized proportions IYKWIM.

I am feeling a bit better now though because I managed to cook enough food for the rest of the week, stew a load of excess apples with some cinammon and raisins to freeze for the kids, clean all downstairs, wash and iron last night after the children went to bed so I feel as though I am a bit more on top of things.

Oh forgot about the wrist bands you mentioned! Have wondered about them for DS's travel sickness but am not sure I would risk not giving him a pill. And if I did how would I know they made any difference? Quandry.....

You know if your lo's are sick in the night, do you clean them up and put them back to bed or what?
I cant sleep if DDs been ill and so always bring her to sleep on the settee where I can doze and watch her but maybe im over reacting.

Kbaby I clean them and their beds up and put them back on their sides with a bucket near, and usually DH or I stay in the room - that's for both dds, and dd1 is 6.

Glad the wristbands are working Egypt. I think they hurt though! Ginger tea made with fresh ginger worked for me.

I've cut dd2's hair once as she has some sticky-out curly bits at the back, but other than that she has no hair to speak of.

Oh dear Bozza, that sounds rough. Hope you all get better soon.

Hope you are O.K. Egypt. Are you eating Ginger biscuits?

Hitting is a hard one isn't it, Helsy? I'm not really sure that I've got any ideas. DS does the same thing occasionally and we just put him straight back on the naughty spot. Perhaps it's just a phase and if you keep up calmly telling her no and using the naughty space/not rewarding her with shouting or attention for it, she'll get the message. I'm really not sure about these things though.

We are all going mad here being stuck in the house. DS1 has recovered from the chicken pox and has now returned to his (mostly) sweet and normal self rather than a tantruming monster but now DS2 has just got it. He's fine with it and only has 1 spot but is still contagious so this week we've cancelled a trip to a farm, 2 play dates and a day looking after my friends toddler before she gets married on Friday. I feel soooo guilty about that but her DD hasn't had chicken pox. We did go out to a big park today and kept away from everyone and that was lovely and DH and I went out Monday night for a meal on our anniversary (7 years!).

A question about speech. For those of you whose los are speaking sentances, do they get them completely the wrong way round e.g:

"Mummy, Please can I come in the lounge?" = "Mummy, please can you come in the lounge?"

"You want your sippy cup, please?" = "I want my sippy cup, please"

"Are you going downstairs?" = "I'm going downstairs"

It's so confussing but I completely understand how it came about because he just copies the way I speak and it's quite cute really. Just wondering if it's a common thing.

Ponka, dd2 says "mummy come and sit by you" when she wants me to sit by her in the car, so I guess it might just be something they do when it's all developing.

Totally recognize this sentence thing! DD always says what she wants to hear (if this is the same thing) so she'll go 'Do you want some apple juice?' when she wants apple juice, or 'what am I putting on my nose?' when she wants you to laugh at her putting Sudocrem on her nose.

Hello, can I sidle in here? I've been trying to liven up the April 2006 thread but it's jolly hard work and as spots and ponka are here I can claim kin as it were...
DS1 is my May 04 "contribution" and Ds2 was born this April, tbh DS1 is much harder work at the mo than the baby is.
DS1 does do whole sentences and uses the word "I" but as you say Ponka, the phrases he just copies parrot fashion are confusing, he'll pick up a book on his own and say to himself "shall we read it?" but when I go over he's not interested in me joining in!
He's also just started bolting when we're out - not sure if this is cos he realises I'm tied up feeding DS2 or if it's just a stage. About 3 times today I had to abandon DS2 and the pushchair and go hurtling after him. He doesn't seem to respond to verbal control anymore, or I hadn't realised quite how much I held his hand constantly/physically restrained him (in a nice way of course!)and have never needed to just use my voice.
Are all the other little ones like this?

Well hi there pepperrabbit! I think the speech thing is a perfectly normal phase they go through .

I am obviously rather a slack mother. DD was sick in her sleep and I discovered her when I went to bed. So I got her out and took her into the bathroom and changed her and cleaned her up while DH stripped the bed. Then DH got her some water and she had some sips of that while I made the bed back up. Then I gave her a cuddle and put her back to bed. She was quite sleepy throughout TBH and not at all willing to be woken up. DS has not been sick (apart from in the car) since he had chicken pox when he was 3 and that was in the day. In fact I can't remember him ever being sick in his bed so must have last been when he was in a cot so under 2.

Also on the speech front despite what I said above DD is quite capable of saying very clearly "Mine. Not yours" in an appropriate (well in her mind so all the time) context. But DS still gets "that's why" and "that's because" mixed up.

Ooooh. Hello Pepperabbit. Slide away. Weird there's 3 of us with kids in the same months.

I have to say DS1 is quite a shy boy when we are out and about so he tends not to bolt away from me too much. It's when I'm feeding DS2 at home that he likes to get into trouble.

hi pepperrabbit, welcome!

dd also gets 'you' and 'me' mixed up. 'pick you up' is my fave. love hearing her chatting away.

these wristbands are certainly working but are def quite painful! and i do have a puffiness about my hands and they are sore along my veins. quite concerned i am giving myself a dvt.! have checked on the net and there says there are no side-effects or contra-indications with using them but then again i've borrowed them from a friend who has washed them and therefore perhaps shrank them! might go to boots and get some new ones

Ponka - re the speach, dd is the same, she says
can i help you = will you help me
carry you = will you carry me.

i found dd bf her doll yesterday ahh... how sweet.

She doesnt tend to run away as she likes to stay close or hold your hand, however she does ignore most things you say to her and im fed up with hearing the word 'NO' to everything.

Pepperrabbit - Welcome, ive got 1dd who is may 04 and just had a ds on 2nd august.

Hello all, Just finished a TV taped marathon because DH has been away all week. We've had a gruelling hour of Silent Witness and then Sugar Rush (to fulfil our middle -aged bisexual curiosities, as a friend accused us ). Went to give blood this evening but got turned away because my iron count isn't high enough. I think it's because it's school holidays and DH isn't here Monday - Friday. My diet seems fine but I am sleeping appallingly (thorugh no fault of the chidlren (sox re: spelling, have drunk wine)) and so I think I am just in a downwayrd spiral. Will get a multi vitamin tomorrow as he is away all next week, being smug in ahotel and having his food cooked.
Bozza - it's the Hot Air Balloon near the airport at Blackpool. We have been there for cheapie food before with my mum. You do seem to cram a lot in to your days out - much respect! Mind you, we (me , friend 4kids) did Buxton on the train and managed to do LOADSand carted a picnic (including rather anal ice blocks) the whole way.
DS gets muddle3d up on some verbs amd will hand me book and say "sing mummy sing". He also has a very "cross" voice he does for several set sentences, especially Bruce the Shark in Nemo "Fish are friends, not food".
Mind you, DD is 4.5 and still gets confused on the issue of minding and not minding. So if she says "I will not mind if DS eats my Mini Milk" I ALAYWAS double check because she doesn't always mean she will not mind...sometimes completely the opposiote! SHe starts school in September and I don't know what DS will make of it. Dn't know what I will!
Bozza again - DD has been sick in her bed, couple of years ago. We just changed and plonked back in. We were both being sick as well actually so not physically capable to do muych else. However, doubt we would have. DS seems to like to have as wide an audience as possible so no night time chuunders for him so far (touches wood frantaically).
Eguypet - I wore wrist bands with DS and wasn['t sick ata ll *V.sick with DD). I also wear them quite a bit now becuawse I suffer from labyrinthitis and get very dizzy and cannot look after children if it gets extremely bad. Have to go straight tgo bed.
Boo - DH off to bed so suppose I should go too.. byeeeee

Bugger that's long

Phew - just came back to check what my drunken, loose lips came out with last night (and how well my wibbly fingers translated it). Seems to all be OK, although v. boring so please feel free to skip over it all.

judd lol.

ive moved dd to nusery in the mornings as from monday but it starts at 8.30!! so far with ds weve managed to make it out of the house by 10am. im going to be the only mum still in my pj's at the gate.