November 2012 - They WERE sleeping, what happened?

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1688444-November-2012-Forget-50-books-in-2013-well-have-50-threads

Welcome back sweetpea our little ones were born on the same day!

Well, am hoping to keep back a bit of the sleepy dust for tonight but am sending the rest of it to you all and hoping you all get restful nights!

So I had a 2nd conversation with my employer today about my job when I return in November. Sometimes my role requires that I travel round the country, and if I have an early morning appointment somewhere then I would have stayed over the night before previously. I've said that this is the only part of my role that I can't now do, I have to make sure that I can be around to drop babylaughalot at nursery and pick her up at the end of the day because I can't guarantee DP will be around (he's a contractor current working 12 hr days and quite often works out of town) and I want consistency in her routine. It might be that this is a 'blocker' to me going back so I'm wondering what to do. I need to look into what rights I have, how much maternity pay I'd have to give back if I didn't return and what I'd do instead.

Would it be crazy to think of becoming a chldminder? I used to be a primary school teacher...so many things to think about

Hmmmm first feed of night done... This will either make for a really crap night or a really good one.

VQ LO been in his own room since 7/8 weeks due to outgrowing Moses basket and sounding like a farmyard/ doing river dance/ conducting everything.

contra isofix works for front facing too.

kyz where is his head in relation to the top of the seat?

MM

Hold fire!

My insurance (Sheilas Wheels lol!) said the same thing. I would have to pay excess to garage then claim it back.

I argued that as I was not in the car, and could not be at fault, I should not have to pay. After 'speaking to her manager' she agreed that the excess 'could be waived in this case' as it was pretty much a cut and dry situation, plus there was a witness.

I also went along the lines that if I had to pay the excess at this time, then the car wouldn't be going in for repair for the next 6 months, so they would have to wait for it to be resolved. I told them I was on maternity leave on limited pay, and didn't have the money to spare up front.

Try similar?

VQ- N gas been in his own room for a while now. It was just getting crazy, P would wake at the snoring of N while I slept.

N is still a very grumpy baby, no teeth yet. my mum and I have discovered alot of the whining is due to boredom. N gets bored by everything quickly, and is aware of toys he's played with that day. It's very tempting to place him in front of the TV.

I'm hoping the weather will get better, as its bitterly cold for a walk and both he and I are going slightly nuts at being indoors. For tomorrow I've bought some food colouring for us to play with, Mixing it with flour and oil ect. We've had music time today and its the first time he shuffled his bum!

Any other idears to keep him occupied? Yes I have used the cat toys too. ( bad mummy)

Evil

evil my cat thinks all toys are hers so I can never fully tell who currently has ownership of the squeaky, rattley things

Waves at Sweetpea!

Well, my 'not that interested in feeding' boy has suddenly become very interested in his feed.

He downed 4 out of his 6oz bottles, and took a 4oz and 5 oz bottle as well. That is 33oz today. A record for him! The most he had ever taken was 30oz, usual being 18-28oz. He usually only finishes one bottle in a day.

If he does similar tomorrow, I'll have to start making 7oz.

He looks much happier when feeding now. Poor baby! I'm glad it has helped him.

VQ He is still in with us because I am lazy and can lie there and rock the basket if he wakes! as he hasn't outgrown the basket, I think it will last him til 6 months, even though he is long. Will just keep him in there as long as we can, because it suits me at the minute. My basket is 75cm long, O is 65/66cm I think. So we have some room yet. Also, because he is swaddled, I think it helps with not being able to wave hands/legs about.

I am looking forward to being able to get in my wardrobe 24/7 though!

Pass- I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Dectecive - insurance companies are awful!
MM- I hope things get better soon.
VQ- no I havent thought about the next car seat.

Evil

Thanks detective - if the car was worth more or I had planned to keep it I would be more determined to go through insurance. DP is convinced he will get some money out of the couple. Even if we dont we'll only be £50 worse off if we get the min weighing it in and had had to spend the min getting it through an mot. And we now wont have the hassle of insurance or increase in premium to worry about (I did a quote for next year without accident and with accident - despite it not being my fault) and it shot up by £45 Bastards.

I am fine now. I think I was a bit shocked earlier. Mad as I've been in a couple of accidents in the past and I wasnt even in the sodding car this time when it happened. I think the fact I cant open Matildas door puts things into perspective. It is metal and we are both fine .

Thank you all for your kind words and support. You lot are often better than RL support! I am adding today's missed gin to my allowance when i stop bfing!

I have the best MIL. She made me a cake today, and sent me a picture! DP picked it up at 9pm. It is now all gone.

Fucking hell it was amazing!! A very light sponge, with cream and fresh strawberries in the middle, with whipped cream on top, more strawberries, and crumbled chocolate, then some chocolate drizzles too.

FUCK YEAH! Kicks thoughts of diet out of mind.

How awesome!

thanks vq my dad has just got one too he would kill me if he could only use it for next 6 months ...hoping to have a few outings

dd not in own room idea is starting to grow on me now but dh is away 3 nights on business and 4 on a stag do next month! and I don't want to tackle this til he gets back. also not sure how others do it but dd doesn't go down til 11 after hours of bf in bed not sure how it would work!
are Moses baskets only suitable for up to 3 months though? (dd is 12 weeks today).
She is looking pretty big in it and she can make the floor creak when she moves!

Same here MM mine went up by £100.

I hate to say it though, if you have reported the accident to the insurance company, even though you decide not to claim, it is still classed as an incident, and you have to declare it.

Yes. They are utter utter cunts.

Think 6 months is 'the norm' contra. I think P will be in hers until 6 months.

detective what have you done to help O? I so wish P could consistently enjoy her meals. She has once had 26oz - for her weight she should be on 25oz on average. I think her daily average is more like 21oz. Today she has had an extra feed and still is unlikely to hit 20oz.

I wish I could stop worrying about what goes in her gob.

Contra babylaughalot only spent the first night out of her basket yesterday (shes 13 weeks tomorrow) simply because she was filling it and I don't think it was helping her sleep. I wasn't comfortable with her going into her own too yet as the advice is for them to sleep in your room until 6 months so we've moved her cot into our room.

It's a tight squeeze (we have to get out of bed by climbing down to the bottom of the bed as its pushed against the wall one side and her cot is on the other) but its doing the trick and I'm happy

evil how about doing some art with foot and hand prints? Nice keepsakes or gifts. The girls keep J occupied mostly, and I take him around with me while I do things. I sit him in his (reclining) high chair in the kitchen, and he has the school run twice a day which takes up a good hour each time. He is getting lots of exercise in his bouncer as he can go really quite high by kicking out his legs, and spends time on his mat. He is not a baby who needs constant company or entertaining, so I can pop upstairs or to the loo and he will play happily mostly. He is fab.

He is also looking very awake.

J spent less than two hours in his basket. Just as well it was pre-loved.

I rang the HV yesterday and discussed O's vomiting/feeding. She suggested either swapping formula brand, or trying SMA Staydown. In the end we decided to try the staydown. And it has. Stayed down. Had a couple of small possetts, and the only clothing he had to change was because he sweated a lot stupid carseat! in one of his naps. We used 1 muslin cloth all day. He isn't any less velcro, but he's feeding, and happy about it. So that'll do me.

We tested him earlier. As soon as I sat down with tea, he started whinging. Not hunger, not tired, just pure 'play with me, look at me, sing to me, me, me, meeeeeeeeeeeeee' whinges! So I ate quickly. The whole time I was looking at him, talking in between eating. He was at my feet, on his changing mat.

As soon as I put my plate down he stopped and started smiling and gurgling. So I thought, lets see what happens if I pick my plate up. And he did! He whinged!!! So I put it back down, and he stopped. DP is my witness to this!

So now, I'm not taking him seriously. Unless he is crying through tiredness or hunger, I'm not going to eat cold meals or get heartburn and indegestion from speed snorting my tea any meal really! down.

I know he doesn't know, and I know he can't control it. It is just that a tiny baby can do such a thing! Raaaah! Got to love the monkey though! I don't mind him being on me all day, just so long as he isn't whinging all day. Which he doesn't if you play with him continuously!.

VQ I remember when O was like that 3 weeks ago seems like a lifetime! Ahhhh, I'm just enjoying him for what he is. This stage is so short in the grand scheme. I'd rather put up with crying baby than frustrating tweenager!

hello!

have been lurking but would love to make friends. Was not on antenatal threads, discovered MN post birth, but I had DD1 on the 2nd November so she is about 16 weeks. She is BF with the odd bottle of formula, she slept through a few nights at 8 weeks, but hasn't done it since! gah. she wakes every three / four hours to nosh, I bloody hope it doesn't get worse with this famous regression we are about to have but apart from that she is a sweetie. has decided in the last week that the first two fingers of her left hand are divinely delicious / interesting and will not be parted from them.... I'm woken by the sound of her frantic slurping.

anyway it's very interesting to hear all about your LOs!

No I havent reported it. I found this out when scouring through my documents to see if I am entitled to a courtesy car. As ut happens I did pay extra to add it to my policy. BUT as I am not 24 I cannot use it.

Bastards.

I don't think 6 months is the norm for baby in own room but is government advice cos of SIDs ...scary but I think putting dd down earlier in her own room may be how I can get a bit more sleep and a bit of my evening back. would be fab if she went down at 9pm I'm really not sure if I'm ready for separate rooms now I think about it again!
may try her napping in seperate room on weekend in apartment as its all on one floor and doors can be left open as no cats.
also living room too light with the large balcony windows and gorgeous sea view! - smug emoticon!

Welcome rooty do stay my boy also likes the first two fingers on his left hand. He is a week older than your LO, and I am hoping we are past the growth spurt now.

hi rootypig nice to hear from you!!

Thank fuck for that MM. Don't let word out to them at all!! GRRR. Twats!

Is it your policy only? If DP is not on it, tell them to refund you the extra! They can't get you to pay for something you can't have surely!!

Hello rooty don't lurk, jump right in! We're a chatty lot. The more chat the better as far as I am concerned! Is hard to keep up though! Hope you have a good mobile it's the only way I can keep up in any way shape or form!

I feel all that cake... all that cream... ohhhhhhhhh.

Oh yeah contra totally. When I said 'the norm' I should have said guidelines. I am not sure how many babies make it to 6 months what wih them being bliddy noisy and that.

Welcome rooty! Fingers are delicious and sleep is for the weak