November 2012 - Forget 50 books in 2013, we'll have 50 threads

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1683927-November-2012-Guess-what-we-were-doing-this-time-last-year

Thankyou all, I don't know what I'd do without you sometimes! I had a bit of a cry mainly after reading vq's post, you say lovely things vq and I feel alot better. No point in worrying yet about more children, I need to focus on e and enjoy him. Mum said if faced with sleep deprivation I would cope with it because I would have to. I'm still not certain but then She reminded me that when i was at Uni my mum unexpectedly got taken into hospital and I had very little sleep for a week or so, five kids to care for (one with special needs) and exams during the days and I managed. Fair enough only for ten days but I remember feeling like I might collapse and then pushing on because I was determined to keep the house running and stable for the kids. I just did what I had to do, and she said you do just that. I guess you do, I just never feel capable at anything.

E didn't want me this morning. Normally we get back into bed after his first bottle at the weekends and usually he wants to but today he screamed at me when I tried to cuddle him and instead wanted to sleep on his back in the middle of the bed. I didn't know why he didn't want me :( I took it to heart and I dont know why, I felt really rubbish! but he's been out of sorts today, has a temperature, not fever (that's over 37.5 right?) but 37.2 and usually he's lower 36ish so I can only assume he doesn't feel himself. He took until later to go to sleep too, only half eight so I am definitely not complaining but I mean he wasn't settled, squirmy and shoving fists in his mouth. Gave him teething gel and had to cuddle him to sleep for the first time in months at night anyway but he has stayed asleep now.

I also do feel guilty for any complaining I do cos some of you have so much to deal with and you do so well! I know I've never met any of you but you feel like my little online family! backs away slowly hoping nobody is creeped out completely

Fingers crossed for much sleep to you all

Oh no PR that's so unfair!! Poor little girl :( hope she feels better soon and I hope you do too!

Not caught up but had to share. M has just done a poonami to beat all others. It's in her hair!!!! (not a jealous face). Worst still she is laughing at me. Urghh.

Note to self: don't dress DD in posh debenhams sleepsuits when she hasn't pooed for 6+ days.

Stupid mummy - usually I put F to sleep on her right side & propped up on a pillow, naughty but thought I'd switch sides so she doesn't get a wonky head which caused immediate coughing and reflux of mouthfuls of bile, poor wee dot. Right side it is then!

mm F feels the need to christen every new outfit I put her in. You have my sympathies.

Holy shit MM! That girl can poop!

I am glad VQ was on hand with some gentle slappage kyzordz. I am going to pop out tomorrow to see if I can get you some comfort formula - what brand do you use?

VQ's post was excellent. I genuinely think I might print that off. P is quite a strong minded wee sausage and I sometimes feel she can't be doing with me around her. She squirms to go into her bounce rather than be cuddled; wants to be in bed for sleep rather than on me. However, I know that worrying about these things is daft in the extreme. I know she and I are connected in a completely unique way. Secretly, I hope I have birthed a confident, strident child who will grab life by the balls. I tell myself this when she squirms and cries to get away from me because then when she looks at me from her bouncer she beams smiles and giggles.

And, for sure, given the choice between you gorgeous lot of vagina-wearers and some beef hula hoops I would choose you every time

Poor littlepig! Weird as is the left not supposed to be better for digestion?

Having said that sleeping on the left during pregnancy gave me terrible acid.

I think sleeping on the left helps food to transit the bowel but it also makes reflux worse as the stomach top sphincter is more open?

vagina wearers. snigger

Odd question but is anyone elses' stomach MUCH noisier since birth? I don't know if its because my innards got all rearranged by the ventouse suction but the gurgles are so loud you can hear it across the room. I also sometimes feel odd fluttering movements - almost like kicks?!!! I'm being a total hypochondriac but just a bit worried as DSIL had bowel cancer and a gurgly tum was one of her few symptoms. Am I being daft?

yw my mum says even now when her tummy "flutters" it reminds her of being up duffed - guess that never goes. Mine gurgles in ways it hasn't for years poss because I'm eating like a pig Lots of reasons for gurgly tums, mostly non-cancer ones Where's that wet fish lurking - might need it for some more gentle taps!

I was under the impression lying on the right was good for reflux babies, certainly helps here.

Blarrrrrghhhhhhhh. Checking in. I love you fuckers!

I want my baby back :( the last 3 weeks he has been so different. Can't blame the cold as it's all gone now.

The 7.30 bedtime has fucked off and we are back to 10pm yet he is still waking as if he went to bed at 7.30.

Sounds like there has been some group love today. Just reading back through today's messages but can only get back as far as Pass wanting a break from MN to which I will add my voice of protest.

Stunt, Kyz and Pikz you are all fantastic and I hope you know it.

Well we've been on our first trip on the tube today with the pram (and the baby), to the Baby Show no less (we had free tix). L was angelic almost the whole time apart from a couple of grumbles (just when we were about to have his photo taken). There was a public 'feeding area' but also a private bf room so the feeding area was all bottles. Anyway I thought with all our talk about normalising bf the least I could do was get my baps out in public! I scuttled off and let DH do the ff top up though. I should take pride in both I know.

We had a really nice day, DH was brilliant and didn't seem to mind missing the rugby. He said he had a great time! We bought a couple of bits but mainly just had a wander. We went last year when I was only just pg and it was weird to be on the other side now, actually knowing what all the products were etc.

Here's hoping we tired the boy out...

YW fluttering very normal to feel once you have had a baby! Scares the crap out of you the first time you notice them!!

Also strongest lying on your tummy!!

MM am looking at Seat Leon. We have 10k to spend, don't want a car more than 1yr old and less than 10,000 miles. Also looked at 308's. It's all confusing. I want more than 50mpg and tax band no higher than C. Looking for economical! My head is crackered with it all!

Thanks for the wet fish

Detective four month sleep regression?

DH got to witness DS giggles today - seemingly the boy loves Black Sabbath (I know but he was cooking oatly pancakes for brekkie so he picked the tunes!) and Daddies fart impressions. Clearly our wee man is destined for high society

Kyz, I feel exactly how you do, and I have 2, so don't feel alone. I also worry like mad that he doesn't love me. He whinges more when I am around, everyone else can put him down, but I can't! He smiles at anyone, so I feel less special! It is silly. Irrational. But you can't help it.

I know it is because I am his mummy, and he feels safe with me, and able to let his emotions show.

I still can't help thinking he doesn't like me though! Or that he has no connection to me!

Pass I posted on that thread last night. Don't let the knobbers get you down.

Some people just can't help themselves.

Pathetic people I call them.

YW He's 13 weeks, this started around 10 weeks. Boooooooo for backwards babies!!

O loves donald duck noises and farty and kissy noises. All get giggled at. So cute!

Detectives Rant For The Day (TM)!

Why is it that restuarants (I use that term very loosely!) think that an acceptable vegetarian sunday lunch is fucking quorn lasagne, or spinach and ricotta cannelloni. Who the fuck has stuffing, yorkshire puds, veg with a quorn lasagne covered in fucking gravy.

I huffed my way out of one place, and went to another, only to be similarly disappointed. I don't eat turkey/pork/beef etc and there was no chicken for the sunday lunches, so I wanted to eat the veggie options. Fucking lasagne. So pissed off!

Anyway, I ended up with a veggie burrito. Awesome.

MIL probably thinks I'm a right cantankerous cow now after walking out the first place.

We haven't had a meal out for ages. Now I remember why. I am sick of paying £40-50 for a meal for it to be SHIT. Grrrrr.

To top it off, DS1 was a right brat. He picked the most expensive item on the menu, some bbq chicken bucket thing, and had a right strop when I said he couldn't have it! I was furious, he can't eat it all, it was bloody expensive, and he is 10, he shouldn't be eating full size adult meals anyway! I let him have something off the adult menu, but something more appropriately portioned. FFS. Yet that still wasn't good enough. I don't know where this attitude has appeared from. I don't put up with it and he knows it. He is pushing his bloody luck.

Remember they don't stay small and lovely for long!!!! RAAAAAAAAR!

just catching up... having cocktails wine and being out yesterday has worn me out more than being a mummy 24/7 ...in addition to midnight pumping sessions... I had a good night but not sure if it was worth it!
big bear hugs to those who need it which seems like almost everyone in the past 30 hours!! this is just such a good and safe place to vent! I love this quiche!
Talking of which ...(venting) really think my mother has some sort of split personality disorder...her one personality is v competitive and yes even with her own daughter!
She had lil dd to stay and when she was grizzly today she was saying she wasn't like that with me... I could see if I had entertained it or got caught up in her nonsense she quite possibly gone as far as she likes me best! had to say to her twice not to do it because I am still having crisis of confidence over being a good mam and she was going to make me cry
I just keep making mental notes not to do that when dd is older with her certain behaviors!!

Detective we have £2.5/3k to spend before having to look at finance deals so debating just buying something outright for about that and not getting into any debt. We have just finished paying off the fucking audi he got rid of 3 years ago . I saw a lovely 5 year old focus on gumtree earlier. Low mileage and taxed and motd for a year. I am very tempted. He hates ford but the kind of car he wants will leave us making monthly payments for 4+ years. Not, repeat NOT, happening!!! My friend has a leon - it's lovely. My aunt had the older model, I wish I had bought it from her when I had the chance. It was bright yellow though

Oh and from experience boys turn onto brats about 10/11/12. Even the nice ones. I assume they grow out of it at some point?

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I think all us first time mummies (and some of you more experienced lot too) all have 'oh shit i cant do this' moments. it's natural. We have had these amazing wee bundles of joy come crashing into our lives and there really is no instruction manual!!! The one thing to remember is they are all different but all programmed to love us unconditionally (until we tell them they cant have the most expensive thing on the menu ) and no amount of mistakes will change that.

oh and just read what vq said earlier about being baby's world that's really made me feel better! I feel like she forgot I existed she didn't even smile when she came back just looked confused and cried later on when my mam passed her to me ... my mum looked a little pleased at this
also worried about my supply dd been eating since she got back but then she seemed annoyed on the boob in the evening like she sometimes does ... I'm sooo tired I buckled and dh gave a ff which she was happy with. she hasn't taken as much before bed as she usually would bf wise and is sleeping on me before I attempt Transfer ...mind you she may not go to sleep or sleep for long.
oh and I really am venting here but dm also warmed dd milk even though I told her not to as dd would take it cold and a) may not actually like it warm b) may want it warm all the time.
who knows what else she got up to too... she said that she was going to give dd cooled boiled water as she keeps insisting she is thirsty and when I said I didn't want her too and she should respect my parenting decisions... she said that I wouldn't know what went on!!!
Thankfully my mil is not like that at all!

yw main bowel cancer symptom is bleeding and altered movements. Massive swings between constipation and the runs. Often unexplained weight loss (occasionally gain).

We had one patient who presented after vomming poo. Actual poo.

Night!!

det I agree re veggie options ...quite often at weddings it can be some sort of tartlet but it doesn't go with gravy!
and the only thing they do ever serve that does is nut roast.. I have yet to eat a nice one ...boring boring boring! if I can have veggie gravy I'm quite content with tatties and veg! mmmm hungry now!

horsey thanks for that re bowel cancer I am concerned too as my auntie died of bowel cancer and I am a hypochondriac! when my ibs started 10 years ago I thought the worse due to some very scary symptoms and now I'm getting some blood too but I think that's the piles.... grrr!hope dd has long sleep I really need it!!

I think I might vomit poo after reading that Horsey fucking hell!!

Yes same here contra, I got the huff in my head again today, as I won't eat meat gravy. I asked what the gravy was in one place, and they said it was suitable for vegetarians. I said that wasn't what I asked, I just wanted to know what it was (chicken/beef/veg etc) and she said it was beef. Exactly. I don't like beef gravy even if bisto claim it to be suitable for vegetarians. It is too rich and yukky for me. Prefer either home made vege gravy, or bisto vege gravy.

I feel sorry for anyone when I am eating out. I suppose fussy people like me should just stay at home. I just can't help it, I need to know what I am eating in case it is horse. I think I won't bother for a while!

Am fine in cafes etc, light lunches etc. It's big meals out which I get annoyed over!!