November 2012 - Forget 50 books in 2013, we'll have 50 threads

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1683927-November-2012-Guess-what-we-were-doing-this-time-last-year

mm we have a VW golf (not an estate), and it has been fab. We have a 1.6L diesel, 5 doors. There's oodles of leg room in the back (hubby is 6ft 2 and fits easily), and space for 2 car seats and an adult thin one plus the boot is a very good size. I can imagine the boot space in an estate would be brilliant. Good miles/gallon as well. I like it lots

J is crying. He is crying because he wants to be asleep. He is not asleep because he is not feeding. I suspect he will only fall asleep while feeding and he will only stay asleep for as long as he is latched on. And that's why I'm having so much trouble at the moment - he won't nap during the day and he won't sleep for a long stretch at night. I think any time he wakens he is looking for a feed so that he can get back to sleep. How the hell do I break that sleep association?

stunt F used to be like that, I used to unlatch her, and let her sleep whilst sniffing my boob (!), then we progressed to putting the boob away but not moving her, and now she'll sleep on me. Still not cracked the "sleeping elsewhere" bit but working badly on that.

In other news, had a little bit of coffee earlier, yum! Shall wait to see what happens later this afternoon...

I had a VW polo, I loved it, the only problem was it had 3 doors. I'm now driving a skoda Fabian estate. It's like golf, but cheaper!

Evil

I love VW. We have Passat estate. My second one. Is great. We had a Honda insight inbetween, that was pretty dgoo too.

Well I have got one grumpy baby! This is what happens when he doesn't sleep. Some gentle activies today.
Can you recook fish?

Evil

Mm we have a Kia carens and we love it!!

Holding Dottie up and giving her kisses and she just latched on to my lip - yowl that girls got suction!!!

DH has got a VW Passat saloon- going on how roomy that is inside, I could imagine the estate being a perfect car for a couple of kids and a couple of dogs.

Pass don't go. And, thanks for asking, no better. Have spent day in bed. Got to be right by tomorrow. Bloody temperature. Am too hot under the duvet and as soon as I try and get coooler I am shivery and teeth chattering.

Yesterday morning I was fine. This is ridiculous.

Cars. I love VW. We have a Tiguan via DH's work. I also have a Toyota Yaris and that is brilliant too - I lve driving it, and I say that as someone who hates driving.

DH changing company car in a few months, and we need to think about space for the dog. The Tiguan is great but surprisingly small boot, and we are rubbish at travelling lightly.

Afternoon all :) feels like I've not posted for ages, when I don't think it was actually that long ago! The only things I remember wanting to say were

Sympathies to everyone who had crap nights. Well done to j for doing the longer stint though vq :)

Hope that IG lasts you passme, skipping through the thread I've read there is a problem with comfort milks? Guessing that will go for e's AR milk too. I'll have to see if I can order a fair few tubs, can hardly get hold of it as it is!! Don't know what I'll do with him if we can't get it any more.

Hope grumpy little evil cheers up soon evil I really struggle with grumpy days!

stunt is it difficult to tell when he actually needs a feed vs just wanting to be asleep? Does he take a dummy? I can't remember sorry

Re: more than one child. I always thought I would have 2 or 3, I adore kids, and I love DS to bits however I read things about how little sleep some of you get and how hard it sounds with more than one and the thought terrifies me! I really don't know if I could do it. Ds is such an easy baby. I find him a bit tricky to entertain but mum said that's this stage rather than a difficult baby. I get at least 6-8 hours sleep a night, his sleep regression so far seems to be waking at 4 or 5 for a chat but back to sleep when given his dummy. And I still feel like i'm not good enough for him. I swear he smiles at everyone else except me. I'd just be doubly as crap if I had two kids to try to divide my time between! I honestly feel like I'd never cope with such little sleep, I think you're all really amazing. Today is a teary day, think its hit me that I'm no good at this, and ds will end up an only child because I'm so sodding useless!

The next car I get will be German or Japanese made because they're supposed to be the most reliable. My car's a piece of shit but can't afford to change it for a long time.

Just took the dog for a walk. It is bloody freezing out there. Need to crack on with housework now and make a lasagne for dinner. I hope DP remembers to bring home some cheese for my sauce.

Oh and age gap-ness, I was hoping to start considering trying for another when ds is 2. But I doubt I will now, I don't know. If I were to have any more I think I'd do much better with only one in nappies etc at a time.

It is really cold apple I have my dressing gown on over my clothes lol!

kyz are you ok? You're not crap at it. Though I feel the same about having two!! Then I think each baby is different and sleeps differently. Vq is testament to that if ever there was any

stunt my only suggestion would be a dummy. Ds sometimes needs one to sleep. Sometimes he doesn't. He's not a very sucky baby.

pr get well soon. Have you taken anything anything to reduce your temp? Usually at the point you feel really cold is when your temp is running high. Hugs anyway.

Ds really watching us while we eat ATM!! It's quite funny!! He's also drooling like a trooper!! If anything goes near his mouth it goes in!! Really having to watch him!!

Evil your night sounds like the one we had on Friday. She was not sleeping for more than 75 mins (apart from one luxurious sleep of 2hrs 15) and today we've been having a feel of her gums and they're quite hard on top. She had really rosy cheeks last night and has been drooling lots lately and stuffing her fists into her mouth but we just thought that was her being a baby. Now we're not so sure. But it wouldn't explain why she slept so well in our bed last night. If she was teething surely that would bother her no matter where she was sleeping?

We might try her with some teething granules tonight, see if that helps? They can't do her any harm if she's not can they?

horsey I think I'm ok thankyou, I just worry that if I tried to cope with two and couldn't, what then? I got lucky with ds, he's very good, which makes me inclined to think a second would probably be a terrible sleeper or something! And how would I cope?!? I'm not sure I would, I feel like I barely cope with e :( And I know he's a very good boy, bless him :(

I'm not sure misslaughalot I have used teething gel on e when I've thought it might be his gums, I didn't know for sure but figured a little wouldn't hurt and it did seem to help so they probably were niggling him a bit! I don't know about the granules though sorry

kyz Don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure you are doing a great job. Sometimes I worry that I'm not a good mum but then I remember that I'm doing the best I can. That's all any of us can do.

Miss - give them a ago. Baby evil dosn't like them, and he's been drooling for weeks now and no teeth! Baby evil likes calgel and to chew on my finger. The calgel Tastes ok and lasts for a while, where the bonjela, tastes foul to him.

Kyzorda- I'm sure he cheer up after a good sleep. Thanks.
Evil

Kyz I'm sure you're doing a brilliant job. The joy of kids is that they don't give a monkeys about any of the stuff we worry about it. All they want is a cuddle and to feel loved and secure, and I'm sure your LO feels both of those things. My mum feels awful in hindsight, about what she sees as her failings as a mother when me and my brother were little - but guess what? I remember none of the things she tells me about, I just remember having fun with my mum and feeling totally loved. I hope you can feel a bit more positive soon and

Kyz- I feel like at times and all we can do is our best. I want to the best for him as he the best thing I have done in this life so far.

I do wonder about another child, but considering P. it feels like I have two already. I'd love girl, but looking at p behavour, it's out of the question. Why do h and p have to be so.... So.... Damn can't think of the word.

Evil

Just taking paracetamol horsey it's times like this that I miss ibuprofen

Excellent advice there from Pig

No pr paracetamol great for fever. Brufen should only be used as an anti inflammatory really.

kyz hugs!! I'm sure you'd be fine 2nd time round. It's bizzare I think (and maybe the problem with forums?) that you feel guilty when you have a child who sleeps lol!! I also think we tend to hear the no so nicesties as opposed to the benefits. I think this thread is wonderful which is why I'm trying only to read here but you do wander. And people come online for help or to chat, rarely to brag.

The paracetamol is bringing the fever down, but isn't touching the sore throat or general aches and pains. But I won't be touching the brufen anyway

Am just glad this happened on the weekend. The worst will be over by tomorrow won't it?

Hopefully!!

Just keep taking fluids. And sleep. If you can.

Kyzordz when I was pregnant with LO a lot of people were all sneery, saying things like ´don't expect another easy baby' and 'you can't be lucky twice'

Yes you can be lucky twice, I have been (despite all the illness and whining) Having two isn't always easy but it's not the nightmare you could so easily imagine it to be. I spent my whole pregnancy worried about hw I'd cope with two, and am surprising myself at how rarely I lose my temper.

the fact that you are worried you may not be a good enough mum shows you are, as you clearly care. Mums who are not good enough, do not give a shit. I have days when I feel I am a bad mum, cannot cope etc, and I have 7 years experience of this.

Please do not worry about having more babies just yet. Things will get easier, you will get more confident etc. having a good sleeper first time does not guarantee the next one being a rascal.

And as for your boy, you are his world, indeed at this age he thinks you and him are one. He knows you inside out, literally. He feels safest and happiest with your smell, your heartbeat, your voice. There is nowhere else he would rather be, and nobody else on this earth who would be better than you at caring for him. You made him from scratch. You are his mummy. But there will be things that annoy and upset him. These are not your fault. It is called being alive.