November 2012 - Don't forget the tummy time

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Quick question to mummies of constipated babies - are you all expressing? And if so, when does baby get that milk, and when do you express? Ie. before or after a feed? Just wondering.

That is bf babies only ^^

Ek. Horsey LO does same n I hadn't even thought about washing his hands. Can I plead the case for building his immune system?

MM. Fair enough. I guess my mum did same in paying for my wedding. Never thought about it that way. N I know any money I received over the years wouldn't cover the wedding cost.

Ff babies get constipated as well.

stunt I feel for you. We are currently negotiating with a new buyer after our last buyer pulled out last week. We are down to squabbling about the difference of £1k. I'm inclined to just take their offer but DH is putting his foot down. We are lucky in that we will make money on the house and its only been on market since end of oct so I can completely understand how you feel. As another poster said (horsey?) a house is only worth what somebody will pay and house prices all even out eventually as unless your moving to a completely different area all house should follow suit. Hats as it is I'd be pleased that you have a buyer. Onwards and upwards and all that. I hate the house buying/selling process. It stinks!

Well I've kept in a glass of water and a peppermint tea today! I might brave a piece of toast later

stunt money made and lost on property is never money in your pocket unless you sell up and rent or whatever. With my first house, I sold it for three times what I paid for it. The next one I broke even, but had to get an additional mortgage to buy as all prices had gone up. The next house we were screwed over by the survey. A full structural with all bells on did not reveal major subsidence, and we sold at a great loss, but were glad to get rid as we were scared it was going to fall down around our ears. Bought property with money sold -much smaller. Have about £125K equity but I will never see it. Do not get stressed. Just move and enjoy your new home and all the friends you will make. You accepted the lower offer so that shows how much you want to move. Hopefully. But you can change your mind.

vq I'm not routinely expressing couldn't afford a big enough freezer only if I have cannon ball boobs at the end of the day or in anticipation of an evening out. So not very often then!

yw I could not go dairy free, of that I'm certain, so fair play.

Ominous nappy rumbles under my non-typing hand

Gah POONAMI!!!

Vq - you will eventually see that money though if you sell up. If you bought a house today for £150k and never moved but paid off your mortgage etc you will get some money. If you only rent you do not. Yet are always paying out. Negative equity us an issue if you want to sell or need to remortgage. If you dont want to mover sell it doesn't actually matter what your house is worth. So long as you have a sensible mortgage.

Pig - we've just had an outfit change with one of them.....

A veritable sea of poo. Luckily dh had just changed her nappy so leakage was minimised Unluckily that meant it was my turn.

My ergo carrier came today, woohoo!! He just needs to gain a couple of pounds and then he can use it. Still trying to catch up, skim reading and will read properly tonight. Horsey he has a bath every evening so they'll get washed then and maybe if I remember in the morning when I'm washing his face. I'm with GT and will plead immune building not mummy slackness

I don't know whether to be jealous or not BPLP !! How many days was that?? I'm still living in fear. She had been banned from my expensive cream sofas for the time being

I wasn't meaning to sound as harsh as I did GT (must read posts before posting..), I just wanted to throw my two pennies worth into the debate.

Woop YW - will drop her a wee text later to check that's fine with her!

The arse falling out of the property market is another reason we're delaying buying. Along with waiting to find somewhere we want to settle. And the majority of our deposit savings topping up my MA and allowing me to take a bigger break with M with the possibility of going back to study. We hope to jump in when prices are very low and buyers are very desperate if things get worse, possibly a wee doer upper where we can guarantee making money. Failing that, DP's desperate to self build (ex architect!)

As much as I hate the dead money that is renting, it really isn't. We're in a lovely house with a great landlord. We would never be able to afford to buy the house we live in any time soon (so in a way we are setting ourselves up for a fall) but at the same time, know if anything goes wrong with it, it isn't our responsibility.

DP is still dropping hints about a move over to NI. He sent me a link earlier to a swishy waterfront apartment in Belfast. £200pcm less than we're currently paying, underground parking, private gym and pool and full concierge. It is very tempting. But not child friendly. And too close to his family far from my folks for my liking!

Thanks for the house info, I love you guys . I'm glad the house has sold and we were expecting an offer of around that value, I suppose it's just that it's all real now rather than hypothetical. We will probably rent now as there are new houses going up in the village so that should stimulate the local market a bit. If we wanted to move elsewhere then it would mean changing schools which isn't possible for DS1 since he has special needs so we would probably be best renting for a year or so until he's finished primary school.

How on earth are we going to empty the loft? Aargh! Tempted to leave it all up there.

Ok I need some perspectives so lay them on e ladies. You seem like solid bunch so I'm going to word vomit.

Yesterday was LOs 12 week 'birthday' and I'm more ragged now than I've ever been. DP and I rarely work as a team anymore and I feel I'm getting worse at it all.

LO has never been easy to feed but I love BF. I don't want to go to a bottle and I found expressing so damn painful and hard I had to give up. So I do all the feeds.

LO was starting to nap by self for about an hour to 2 hours twice a day but required me to walk up and down for about 20 mins. Then I found getting naps and bath time/ bed time staggered out right impossible. So now I just go out- tie her in a wrap and walk to where I'm meeting people. Feed, then do the same back home. If I'm home I dread trying to put her down & end up busting out the sling so I'm no better off.

Then nights. Well. She sleeps really well except she associates me with bed time so won't settle until I lie down with her and let her suckle on my little finger. She's started to find her own hands to self sooth but its still not good enough for her.

All and all I'm with her 24/7 and I freaking adore her but I cannot see how I get from here to independence. Where is everyone else now? Was there a point that it git easier to put them down or did you just have to get tough?

Thoughts and advice needed please if I'm ever going to be able to cook a meal or sit down for five minutes.

Excuse mad typos. I'm exhausted after a week of nursing strike/ reflux and seeing stupid PIL.

horsey I am unlikely to sell though, as I will always need somewhere to live. I would like to have something to leave my children although sometimes fancy the idea of selling and going on a cruise for my retirement. I have encouraged my parents to spend all their savings as they own a lovely home. I would rather they enjoyed the money. When they moved up here I suggested buying a little house and enjoying the cash, but they wanted the extra rooms for when family visited. One brother visits regularly, but the other one and his family never bother, neither do other family members. I think we would downsize to enjoy a bit of comfort.

No no no MM they're awful soulless places. Definitely no good for young children. IMO anyway. One of DH's friends lives there and it's a lovely apartment but it leaves me cold. There are so many nicer places to live in NI. We're in a wee village with a school, a shop and one post box where everyone knows everyone else. Idyllic but we're only five minutes from the motorway for commuting and ten minutes from the airport.

katie 12 weeks and 13 weeks were chalk and cheese for me. 12 weeks is a big growth spurt. I have, however, put him in his cot in his own room so did get tough too. He is still feeding on average 4 hourly with the quality time together in the evenings but bedtime is naturally coming earlier. It does get better. Honest. As for your relationship, it has been a hard few months and I think all of us are struggling to recall why we chose to have a baby with them. That too will get better hopefully x

Really? Oh VQ that's so reassuring to hear. I want to co sleep but immediately. I'd just like her to settle in her side crib, have a bit of time with DP, then join her later you know?

She's currently sparko having fallen asleep on boob. Sat wondering what to do as I know she'll scream blue murder if I try to put her down

katie remember they are all different, but YW has also found 13 weeks is delightful. You have done so well and it would be a shame to fall at the last hurdle, plus formula would probably bring more problems.

Chewing hands - remember the Lanisoh to prevent them getting chaffed.

DSs toes are at the end of his 3-6 next gros.

I just love being so close to her but I cannot work out where I begin to get to do things like make lunch or dinner you know? I just cannot work out how to get there. We were really getting there with naps but evenings were impossible. Then last week happened and she's in my arms all the time again.

It's lucky she's bloody brilliant when she is awake. We have a right ol' laugh!

Ah yes the loft...we did leave some stuff behind nightmare!

MM it's a strange thing to be jealous of but yes, I think I would be. I'm very glad it happened today rather than tomorrow at baby group i
or whilst being weighed. I'm even more glad it didn't happen on the train as initially feared!