December 2012 - so, do we all know what we're doing yet?

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eggs - how stressful. Do NOT beat yourself up, you did the right thing and now he'll get right with some help. My little girl was sick a bit yesterday and had a white tongue - didn't occur to me that anything could be wrong. I could easily have been in your situation.

Eggs don't feel bad your a 1st time mum like me (we're only learning) i would never have noticed H had thrush if my mum hadn't pointed it out. I just wondered why she was BF weird and kept pecking at my breast. And Utopian my mum said the way you can tell its thrush is if the tongues white and the baby hasn't just fed or vomited, also if you scrape it away its red underneath. They might also have a red bum, but not always. Eggs did the Dr prescribe you some cream? Even if you don't have symptoms of Breast thrush theres a chance you'll keep passing it between each other if you don't get treated. Good luck giving your LO the drops, H gets it in the tiniest drops and still manages to spit most of it out haha.

On a brighter note after feeling sorry for myself last night, H finally fell asleep and had her 1st ever 5 hour sleep, i feel like a human being, woohoo.

Oh eggs really hope he's better soon must be horrible for you both. Well this is second time round for me and I wouldn't be any the wiser, please please don't beat yourself up. I wouldn't have thought/noticed either.
We had a good night had a 5 hour sleep ! Celebrated this morning by bidding on a really pretty snow suit (well I won because I requested she change it to buy it now! This is how impatient I am!)

Oh Eggs don't beat yourself up. We're all just learning and you did the right thing and made sure F got help. Hope he feels better soon.

Eggs- it's almost impossible to tell if something is wrong and what it is before they can talk. Even when they can it's hard- just before she was 2 DD complained her back hurt and we thought she was imitating MIL. Turns out back & tummy ache in young children can be a symptom of swollen glands, and that afternoon she was in hospital with suspected menangitis, which turned out to be bacterial tonselitis.

But you've got me wondering about A's tounge and pecking. And I'm going to push a bit harder about the sickness when the hv comes on Friday.

But we have heat! And a good job given we had more snow last night and more is forecast tonight.

barbeasty glad you're heating is back.

Bit worried now, ds has been a bit grizzly over last couple of days and not slept as much during the day as usual. I just thought pattern was shifting but his tongue is white and has been playing with the boob for even longer than normal before latching on. Think i'll take him to gp this afternoon. starting to feel bad now. There is so much to remember and I'm feeling like shit myself.

eggs do not beat yourself up about this. Like everyone else has said, its so hard to tell if something is really wrong. The most important thing is that you got him seen and he's getting treatment so well done you. :)

Oh eggs, that sounds like an awful experience - glad you're getting it treated. As others have said, don't beat yourself up about it - you did the right thing and sought treatment, and it could so easily have been any of us in your situation - I've never checked Z's tongue closely when it's white as I've just assumed it's milk. All us first time mums are feeling the way here and if we called the doctor whenever our babies were upset we'd do nothing else all day!

Is anyone else's baby getting quite vocal? Not so much crying, but vocalising nearly all the time when awake, making different noises. Lots of "Aah aah" and " eh eh eh".

eggs hope you've managed t get some rest, nothing much to add other than agree with what everyone else has said

Im really craving sweet things mainly on an evening I trying to resist but its hard. I plan to start slimming world a week on mon when ds will be just over 6 weeks I also bought an exercise dvd which I will start then wouldnlove tonhave lost my weight by july when we go on holiday

My baby keeps sharting.

Also, has anyone else found that farts smell of poo but poo smells of nutmeg and raisins?

seconds ditto the sharting! I can feel him do it with great force when we're cuddling; always sends dh and i off into fits of infantile sniggering.. Not sure about smells though. He is also hugely chatty these days, lots of little noises and one of screams which sound more like communication than upset. He also has a two quite different little songs he sings, one to my boob and one while sleeping..

Thank you for the support, I have had some sleep, and F on his second dose of meds. He screamed for 2hrs on my DH, but can't expect it to fix instantly, just got to be hopeful it works.

Between screaming, F has starts 'talking', mainly at his play gym toys.

Well 6 wk appointment went well, contraception sorted at least. Plus, docs decided to swab Keira's tongue because the thrush is still there. eggs don't be hard on yourself dd is my 5th and yet it took my sister to mention her white tongue. It's one of those things that can be explained by so many other things, milk/sick etc.

eggs don't beat yourself up at all. This stuff is a guessing hand at best.

Ethan has been sicky and unhappy this afternoon. So now we're snuggling in my bed. DH can do the big dcs dinner when he gets home, I have more important things ATM! Lol

I stupidly watched one born every minute today. I don't think I'm emotionally finished having babies. I cried thinking I'll never give birth again. Or have a newborn :( I thought I didn't want anymore babies. But now I'm thinking it is a purely financial decision and it's making me :(

Hand?! game ^

Ours is financial too Stacey it's not fair is it?

I've got two cartons of formula so hopefully I can have a break tonight I feel really guilty though I'm only doing it for selfish reasons.

spotty doing something to help keep yourself well and best able to look after your baby is NOT selfish x

Well we've had the poo that all the sharting was leading up to. I can confirm that aldi nappies succeeded where pampers and huggies failed, in containing it all.

Re OBEM and future babies, I first thought I couldn't watch it because it would bring back all the panic and fear and pain and loss of control I felt at the birth. But I watched it the other day and maybe it's because a few weeks have passed but I thought: yes, I could do that again. I can approach it from a position of knowledge and they do say knowledge is power.

Not sure I've properly told my birth story, have I?! Well here it goes in a few sentences:

• went in for induction Wed night, was given the 6-hour gel
• started to get menstrual-type cramps during the night
• next morning reported the cramps, was brusquely told "well nothing's showing up on the monitor" and to tell them when they were a coi
• was only 1cm dilated by 6am the next day.
• cramps continued a couple of minutes apart, was advised pain relief may slow it all down but to have a bath to help relieve it.
• had said bath, it did help, but cramps did start

We've just had the poo nappy. Regular as clockwork at 3:30 for the last 3 days! I can confirm it smelled nothing like nutmeg or raisins

Never say never Stacey aren't you still quite young? You never know how circumstances may change. I always said I wanted 2, but straight after giving birth I told DP I couldn't imagine only doing it once more. If we had the money I'd have 4. may change mind when teething starts

I agree with Seconds spotty if a bottle of formula is what is needed to get you the sleep you need to keep going then that's fine. Formula is fine too. As my little chunk would tell you!

Oh dear that finished too early:: continued...

• in the bath the cramps started getting further apart. Decided to follow earlier advice of going for a walk to get things going properly.
• was examined before walk, still 1cm dilated and not yet in a position to get my waters broken.
• second lot of gel administered at about 1pm on the Thursday
• went for a walk with my husband but had to stop every few yards and breathe through increasingly painful cramping
• came back to bed, begged for pain relief better than paracetamol, was given a pethadine injection.
• went to the loo convinced something was happening and that the cramping wasn't just "an effect of the gel" - made my husband come into the loo with me!
• back in bed, suddenly felt like I'd weed and pooed, sent my husband to get help, was screaming in pain apparently.
• midwife returned, husband manhandled me onto my back so she could examine me. She then said "I think we'd better get you to the delivery suite" and dashed off to get help.
• another midwife appeared, said "I've been told to tell you not to push".

The next bit is a bit of a blur but there was a decision made to get me to delivery rather than deliver there and then in the induction ward in front of 3 other families (my wee / poo sensation was actually my waters breaking and the babies head crowning).

• the midwives wheeled my bed out and literally ran down the corridor with me, out the maternity suite, down the main hospital corridor, into the labour suite
• there was no time for proper monitors or an IV line or anything - my husband had to hold on the tummy monitor
• about 15 minutes later little Z came out!

So, after a very closely monitored and highly medicalised high-risk pregnancy, I ended up giving birth with no epidural or anaesthetist or doctor, just the 2 midwives.

Hi everyone, just emerging after fortnight from hell. No I do not know what I am doing, it feels like a constant test which I am failing!

So, week before last E got a virus I think (green mucousy nappies and she sounded very phlegmy in the mornings), wouldn't sleep at all in the day and not much at night, then got massively overtired and basically screamed most of last week . Finally managed to get her to sleep more over Friday and the weekend and she's a new baby the last couple of days . she's even started smiling!

Only flies in the ointment are 1) poor girl has painful and smelly wind and isn't pooing as often as she'd clearly like to, and 2) her nighttime feed wake ups now seem to be getting more frequent rather than less, aargh! Very of those of you whose night time sleep is extending. At least she now naps in the day so I can nap (that's the theory, in reality am MNing of course...)

Eggs so sorry to hear about F's reflux. E was diagnosed with silent reflux a while ago and put on ranitidine, no symptoms since, so either the meds work or she has outgrown it. Hope the meds work for F. If they don't then be persistent and get different ones as there are quite a few different options.

Sorry to hear tales of thrush as well. I thought we had it but turns out was just a crap latch plus growth spurt causing my sore nipples. I was told by HV that white tongue is normal for an hour after feeds and it's just milk residue - it's if it doesn't go away and has red underneath that its a sign of thrush. Also if there are white patches on the inside cheeks or gums, and if you have sore nipples with a greasy residue on them.

spotty hope the formula works to give you a decent stretch of sleep. If it gives you that to make you feel more human then it's worth it, you shouldn't feel guilty.
We've not really talked about another but will probably be a long time in the future if we do go for it. I'll probably change my mind in the next year or so when our friends start having children and I've forgotten just how much I hated being pregnant.

I had a horrendous birth with dd and it took me a year to consider another one. You don't necessarily forget but you do realise it's more than worth it once they sleep through

Snowing here again

DH and I always wanted two but I am scared of having another premature baby - DD is in good health we think (can't be sure till she's a fair bit older) but what if the next one was much more prem and had serious health problems... Dilemma.

Question: do I wake DD up? She didn't sleep well from 5am till lunch (for wind/poo reasons) but has now been asleep since 2.30 after a monster poo. I don't want her to end up waking more in the night... But it seems odd to wake her when I spent all morning trying to get her to sleep!

My husband wants to try for another one immediately! This is on the basis that I'm 37 now and unless I literally get pregnant in the next month I'll be 38 at least for any future instalments, and it's not going to get any easier for me to get pregnant. Those with more than one: what's harder, 2 that are only a year apart in age, or one newborn and one 2-3 year old?