December 2012 - so, do we all know what we're doing yet?

[MaMaPo]

:)

[Cookiesandcoffee]

Wow coffee thAts amazing!! Not at all !!
spotty we had an 'on and off' latch session again last night. She wouldn't go longer than 2 hours without a feed either. But she CAN go longer she has before. I think she's caught DD1s cold though. I completely understand your thoughts on formula , I feel like I've got voices on each shoulder I don't know about you. Do what keeps you sane!!

Fed up of this snow now!

[Bellaboo123]

Spotty we give about 5oz of formula at about 10ish but she doesn't settle until 12. Like everyone says do what's right for you. Hope you feel better, you're doing a fab job.

[EggsMichelle]

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2264595/NOW-believe-Two-men-experience-simulated-labour-pain-TV-just-hours-lucky-dont-real.html
Sadly doesn't have subtitles o the video, but just watching it gave me a good giggle in the night (especially the on all fours panting position!)

He slept from 7.35-12.15 on 4oz of formula (fell asleep sooner than I wanted!) but he is still awake for an hour with every feed. Have to change him with every feed, else he doesn't settle at all, and just turned on the baby monitor light, but he was still going for an hour. On the plus side, because he went to bed before us, we had Chinese takeaway and wine!

[SpottyTeacakes]

I think I will try it and if it doesn't make a difference then, like you say, no harm done.

We've got more snow today and it's meant to carry on all day and I've just realised I've forgotten my two closest friends' birthdays

[Cookiesandcoffee]

At the end of the day spotty you're doing a fantastic job and I personally, don't think there is anything wrong with that at all.
Yumm wine eggs I had an urge to drink lots get shit faced last night! Didnt help there are pics on FB this morning of a local girl who has given birth since me out on the town (and looking like her body never carried a child!! Oh and no bags under her eyes either!)

[ISpyPlumPie]

Marking my place.

Hales - that sounds really painful. Hope you're feeling better soon.

N slept for 4 hours without a feed last night. He's never had a bottle and has also taken against the dummy. Seems to just be very gradually increasing the length of time between feeds (at night at least). Totally agree though that it's worth doing whatever works for each LO - they're all different but we all need sleep.

[Clarella]

larellaSun 20-Jan-13 08:42:09

hi five 6 hours sleep with 4 unbroken!!I blooming woke at 3 though expecting him to be up and was wide awake! 

not normal here though either!! he's ebf.

what we realise is happening is that he's now fighting sleep in the eves and at other times. he's started not having much from the bottle when dh has him in the evening, falling instantly asleep. mind you nothing is set in stone I think till he's done it for at least a week...

[halesball]

Spotty we give a bottle of formula of a night (at 11pm ish) and its hit and miss, sometimes we get a 3.5 hour sleep after, so its a godsend when she does that. I agree though, with doing what works for you. Try it and if you don't like it you can stop. I know it sounds silly but when we gave H her 1st bottle i felt really guilty about it and got quite upset. Hope you make the decision thar suits you and also that you get abit more sleep.

[WillYouDoTheFandango]

Checking in.

Ouch Hales poor you, hope it clears up quickly.

Sorry to hear of the bad nights. DP took J in the spare room to let me sleep. I had 9 Hours . Don't hate me! DP on the other hand was up from 2 with a sqwaking baby.

[itsMYNutella]

Spotty I cannot cope with broken sleep, I started giving T a night time top up after two weeks, I'd be a total nutjob after 2 months! It still feels weird giving him the formula but the sleep is necessary so I can enjoy being a mummy.
I'm hoping to switch to EBF for the night time top up but haven't braved the pump yet

[CODwidow]

spotty we're ebf and go longer than 2hrs between feeds. I think sleep deprivation is the worst tbh!

hales we've been suffering with thrush for 4 weeks now so I know how you feel, it's bloody painful!

[HoneyMumandSon]

checking in, and no, not a clue what i'm doing.

those of you who are managing to get their babies to go down in the evening... how? D sleeps well in his moses basket at night, when we put him down when we go to bed about 11, but last night we tried to start a routine, did bath, book, feed to sleep at about 8 (normally sleeps on one of us from 8-we go to bed) put him in basket with soft lighting and Ewan but was screeching within 2 mins, soothed and settled put him back down and he screamed. We kept on with this for about an hour and then gave up. Should we leave him if he starts screaming so he doesn't think we'll go to him straight away? What should we do to get him to go down? (i know its only been one night but i think going into this with some idea of what we're doing might help!)

[EggsMichelle]

Before we had a routine, he would have an evening nap waking between 7-8, I would go to bed at about 10 and feed him until he fell asleep, held him for 10mins to be sure he was asleep then put him down. Now I have been waking him from that nap between 5-6 as the evenings seem to be when he is most alert and awake longer. Honey if D has an afternoon nap, look at how long he is awake and alert after his nap.

[SpottyTeacakes]

Grrr mil has ds and he's crying for food

[HoneyMumandSon]

He doesn't nap either :( he sleeps from 8 or so just refuses basket till we all go to bed :(

[EggsMichelle]

Honey my niece was born the same week as D, and bil says they have to soother her a couple of times before she goes to sleep. It used to take them hours, but perseverance means she goes down most nights first time.

[SpottyTeacakes]

Honey what if you stay in the room with him maybe stroking his back until he's asleep then over a few weeks you can get further away etc

[HoneyMumandSon]

Thanks :) will try that damn, was really hoping to find a magical quick fix.

[Barbeasty]

Would he go down if you brought the basket downstairs at 8, then take him and the basket up when you go to bed?

I'm missing my child-free time this morning. Normally DH takes A and DD to church, so although it's an early-ish start (they leave at 8.20), I get almost 2 hours to get up in peace and potter about getting lunch on etc. But today DH has a bad cold so decided to lie in instead. I was worried at 5am that I wasn't even going to get to sleep in a bit, but a nappy change got A to sleep until 8 but waking briefly every hour.

I've just managed my shower. I prefer the peace to the sleep!

[utopian99]

We have tried O out with his baby gym - went down a storm! (until poosplosion stopped play... ) Am continually surprised how fast they develop; I think I'd assumed nothing happens at all till the magic six week mark.

Have also now fully graduated to fluffy bum status apart from the odd disposable when out and about.

[pmgkt]

For those who ff, do you go by age or weight on the guide of how much they can eat?

Also those who find their baby falling asleep in the bottle, get the next size up teat or put an extra hole in the ones you have. That way they need to put in less effort to get more out, so don't tire as quickly and have drunk more in less time. That said if yours is often sick after, try it and see but too fast may make them sick up more.

[MaMaPo]

Honey, I tried the same thing last week and it was difficult and ultimately unsuccessful. In retrospect I think she was already overtired and so it wasn't ideal. I will try again, but only when she's well rested.

[halesball]

COD i was trying to remember who had thrush, its horrible isn't it? And i've seen a deterioration in H's ability to feed but hopefully this medication will sort it. Hopefully yours is starting to ease off as well now.

[CODwidow]

We've been lucky that dd hasn't had any problems feeding but in all honesty she probably had hers from birth so I think its just 'normal' for her. I'm sure you'll be different but we just can't shift it. Dd's is still as bad as ever and I'm just coming to the end of a fortnights worth of antibiotics and it's still there. Not sure what they'll do next tbh as dd has had drops and the gel and I've tried the cream and antibiotics. I thought about ff lots as the pain is incredible but we're sticking with the boob at the mo. hope it shifts for you soon!

[Secondsop]

pmgkt I go by weight not age - i figured that babies of the same age could be dramatically different sizes and stomach size is the name of the game - but am ultimately guided by his hunger. Eg we moved up to 120g when he wasn't at the weight for it yet because after his 90g feeds he was waiting 10 minutes to see if any more food was forthcoming and then crying. It seems to be working because he's putting on weight in leaps and bounds, but he is getting breast milk as well so is getting extra food.