December 2012 - so, do we all know what we're doing yet?

[MaMaPo]

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willyou at don't wake a sleeping mummy!

Sorry spotty that DS is still not sleeping much. D doesn't tend to go more than 3 hours or so most of the time so can sympathise.

Downloaded the wonder weeks app in the middle of the night and all its done is make me dread the next 2 weeks I know it goes on gestational age but I'm wondering if as D was so early his might be a little shifted as I could have sworn we've had a little bugger the past week and a half. I don't know.

Off to gp to check for thrush. I think that the receptionists are getting sick of us.

13 weeks today. Eek.

T had a bad night too, though only based on previous nights. Was really hard to get to sleep with lots of wriggling, kicking and pulling at the breast over and over again. 3 hours of that, and associated pain, and he fell asleep after I tried feeding with skin to skin. Did 1-3, 4-5:30, then 6-8. I didn't get to sleep as much as him though, as he was grunting and squirming most of the time he was sleeping. I think today is a pj day.

Pidg they were talking about oversupply at the LLL I went to, however I can't remember then saying anything useful. Just to try hand expressing, and that babies adapt their latch eventually to deal with it. Oh, and maternity sanitary towels stuffed in bra as breast pads.

I've sorted it for now rugby style but that won't help when I'm out later - although the friend I'm meeting wants to train as a peer supporter so she can practice on me :o plus I've a mega bruise on my left arm where my implant went in yesterday so can happily feed off the right for a few hours!

Clarella, R came 19/11 in the end so is 9 1/2 weeks now. Was due 30/11...

Good god J's in a bad mood. No poo for 2 days again. He's wailing the house down as we speak

Well, glad we bothered the dr. We have thrush. :(

Oh no Honey!

Oh poor you and D Honey, least you went and you're getting treated now

Sorry Honey, but on a positive note your getting treated now. Pidj i've been having those problems as well, with H i assumed it was because of the thrush. But H was originally due on the 28/11 born on the 7/12. Our 5 hour sleep the other night was a fluke, no repeats back to 2 hour wake up calls.

honey we have thrush too!! I have been prescribed a cream to rub on him and on me.

utopian that sounds a great rate of expressing. In 20 minutes the most I'd ever get is an ounce :( I express by hand as I haven't got on with the pump brilliantly - perhaps I should persevere with it.

What pump have you got Seconds? Is there a reason why you don't like it?

Sorry to hear everyone that's having problems with thrush. I hope it's clears up quickly for you all.

utopian just remembered I hadn't answered you, sorry. I do scanning work for a charity. So rarely need both hands tbh although I don't need to hold Ethan while feeding at all, maybe my boobs are very saggy

We've got tablets for me and drops for D. Wasn't my usual gp but he was lovely.

spotty I've got the medela swing - it's not that I don't like it in itself but it's just so slow to get anything out. Sometimes an hour later and I'll have got 10ml. I don't get lots out when I hand express but I do better than the pump.

Hmm that must be frustrating. Some people just don't get on with them at all

Oh no, thrush outbreaks! But well done everyone for seeing their GPs and getting it attended to.

Drop in clinic this morning - C is thriving, she's gone from 10lb1oz at 4 weeks to 11lb9oz at 7 weeks. Length and head circumference also in right range. All my milk is doing some good.

Off to get her passport this afternoon :)

How's this for an AIBU (not going to post it there though): I get on the bus at the supermarket with 3 heavy bags and little C comfortably asleep in the sling. A man kindly offers me his seat, but I thought it would be easier to put the bags down if I stood in the wheelchair/buggy space, which was empty. I said 'no thank you, I'm happy to stand' to the man, who sat down again.

A bit later an older woman (mid-late 70s, I'd say) stood up to get off, but came over to me, barely made eye contact, and blurted 'Next time a man stands up and offers you a seat, be courteous and gracious enough to accept it!' then got off the bus. I was a bit dumbfounded, and called after her '...but I didn't want to sit down!' I then had a conversation with another older woman about how rude that woman had been about insisting that I must accept the offer to sit down! It would have been different if I'd been rude or dismissive to the man who'd offered, but he didn't seem to care...

So - AIBU???

mamapo OMG. YANBU! Honestly, some people are so rude. Also, sitting down in a sling isn't always a walk in the park, I've found, anyway, so it's not as if you (a) didn't have good reason to say no to the seat but even if you didn't (b) you did it politely.

spotty I tried the hospital medela and got on with the basic function of it which is why I got it but at that point I was still at the colostrum stage so I hadn't properly tested it. I've even checked on the website to make sure I'm using the right size flange (I do seem to be). I find that when I hand express I can sort of move my hands around and keep finding the streams whereas the pump just gets itself in 1 position. I'm clearly not blessed with a plentiful supply so that one position sometimes hits the (slow) jackpot, or sometimes does nothing.

Finally have Internet back after 4 weeks and all moved into new house!

I hope everyone is doing well and settled in with babies - could really of done with chatting to you all! Last 4 weeks have been awful with LO! Colic, Ahhh!

Sorry to hear about the thrush, hope it gets better for you all!

Oh seconds I often compress my boob with the palm of my hand when pumping to get more out? I do it all round

Mamapo YANBU! Stick it on the feminist board they'll be right behind you

Marking my place, got tonnes to catch up on! Been busy with work (trying to not do any but it's not happening)...k went to sleep at 7pm and woke twice! Once at 10.30pm and 2.30am before another feed at 6.30 and then napping well till now.....it's a dream come true day!

spotty how do you compress your boob without it popping out of the suction seal and having to reposition it?

Oh welcome back brooke! Hope all is well in the new house.

Brooke are you on our fb group? (Not sure if you missed it or not?)

Seconds I just press on the very top/side/bottom of my boob and push the pump right into my boob at the same time. I don't move my hand just press down hard. I don't know if it's advised but I like to make sure I'm getting all I can

I read somewhere that you should massage the boob while expressing to get it all out.

Welcome back brooke, and sorry honey and others with thrush...

Stacey that makes sense, he's asleep on my lap at the mo so hands free and will be capitalizing on time when my mother's up too.. Still a good trick - I can feed him hands free this way too but it makes my back ache a bit (have a dodgy spine.)

Seconds I have the medela swing too - I do hold the suction end right up/into the general boob so it might be helping increase suction? I also amp up the suction by a couple of presses before pressing the let down button..

Mamapo what a ridiculous old woman, projecting her own weird ideas of politeness when the guy was clearly fine!

utopian yeah it makes the back of my neck burn with the position I feed him in but needs must.

Welcome back brooke I hope the move went well!