December 2012 - so, do we all know what we're doing yet?

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I just dealt with a massive poosplosion that ended with poo on my tshirt and wee on my leggings. DP was upstairs updating Facebook about the noises I was making while dealing with the nappy. He's very lucky I love him and found it all funny (because if I didn't laugh I'd cry).

I've not really looked too much into classes yet, I found a baby yoga and massage class that I might try out and I was planning to take him swimming, although just going in the pool with me rather than an actual class.

willyou I wouldn't worry about setting yourself up with bad habits just yet, he's still v little. If you're happy with it for now just go with it. Nothing is forever, you can always change it later.

Those of you mix feeding, how many attempts did it take to get your baby drinking from the bottle? And how many weeks were they when you started?

I gave DS a bottle of EBM last week (6 weeks) and he kept pushing it out of his mouth or biting it, after a few attempts I poured it away. He does the same thing with dummies so I've given up on those after trying a few different kinds.

I think that's fine will you - dh was taking George off to do bottle in eve but we've changed it to me feeding as he's become clingly and tonight it was basically what you describe, he was chilled out enough for dh to squeeze a bottle in while I slept. we had a bath around 7:30 and we're going to try and keep it up nightly --apart from anything to keep the cheesy neck
under control-- G manically cluster feeds in eve so it's hard to try much else at moment but I think low stimulation and relaxation is the key. sleeping on you is fine! (see kellymom website)

I'll try and catch up with thread in night hope you're all ok xx

Seymore, I started with Yunior when he was about 2 weeks old. He's doing ok with bottles. we only give one a day, but he'll take one from Dh now. He's 4 weeks this week.

Thanks monster I hope I haven't left it too late! Maybe I'll get DH to try at the weekend when he's hungry. Not much chance of that when he gets home in the evenings!

Oh good because I do love holding him! Maybe in a few weeks we'll start enforcing the down in his basket after the 8pm feed thing. He goes down fine at 11 though so not a massive problem yet.

He seems to have bellyache tonight. Pattern is wriggle wriggle wriggle, moan moan moan, massive fart, repeat 20 minutes later. No sleep for me tonight. Must learn to tune out the whimpers while still reacting to the cries!

Think H is coming down with something, her cry is really raspy and shes fussing more than normal (which i didn't think was possible) at the boob and shes sleeping more than normal, but only if shes being rocked or is in my arms. Its the cry and her voice when shes making noises thats concerning me the most, its so raspy and high pitched. I can't ask my mum for advice as shes at home in bed with flu .

Willyou i hope your LO is feeling better soon. Also Heidi is 6 weeks old and i'm letting her set the routine for abit longer, i'll try in a couple of weeks to sort out a routine.

I feel human again everyone! After cluster feeding from 5:15 to 9:15 last night (only the third time he's done it) I got ds to sleep by about 9:45. He woke at midnight and dp gave him the bottle but it took him until 2:30, plus the 30ml he had left earlier, to settle him. I offered to boob him but dp said no (wants to be able to settle ds himself and ds to not need boob to settle) and then he woke at ten to five. I woke a bit when he was having his bottle but not lots. Hard to tell if it made a difference but I think it did. Anyway dp is in my good books now!

I keep thinking everything is going well then have a down day- couple of hours. My DD was sleeping for 6 hours weeks ago not so much anymore...wish I had been more grateful. Think I'm reading too much!
Anyone else read wonder weeks? It states that babies make mental leaps at certain times one is about 8 weeks (7-9) if baby came early so may the leap...when this happens baby gets much more fussy wants to be with mam etc. apparently this leap will involve baby finding its hand and the fussiness occurs in all babies all cultures around the world!

6hrs!!!! That's the second night in a row, surely the gaviscon isn't that good, it must be a fluke. My boobs have leaked loads, they are not used to going more than 2 hrs!

A friend has invited me to a baby and toddler group today, I was going to cancel after all the drama of the last few days, but I think I will go! Daydream we don't have many groups around here for tiny babies, would be nice to meet some new mums. He can start swimming after his jabs, can't wait for that!

DH and I had our first evening out alone last night, MIL came and took F, and since she took him when he was really bad on Monday, I didn't feel so guilty (she reports he's just a miserable child!!!)

My dd is wide awake in the evening I ebf but not sure how much longer I can keep it up as she wants to be on me 8pm til she sleeps usually around 11.30 but one day this week she was on til 2.30am! My mum says she is spoilt that I should try cooled boiled water or formula (I know this is spelt wrong too tired to think). But what I have read other places contradicts this that doing that now could mean she doesn't want to bf anymore. She won't really take a dummy, also tried passing her to DH to see if he can distract her from wanting food but she just wants to eat again!
Ps. I am obv new mum, new to MN too but it's been a fab discovery past week has really cheered me up communicating on here! Especially as I have been stuck in past few days due to snow!

Eggs you don't have to wait for jabs to swim...

Willyoudo ... I tried putting in the basket as mine won't sleep til 11 but did read on here after posting bout it an Isis website says they stop crying when you have put them down just because they give up- they still have as high levels of stress hormone in body (research studies show) after reading that I'm just going to see how we go DD is 7 weeks want to at least give her til 12 before panicking again that she should be going down in the evening should have a nap routine etc!

Eggs yay to your night out. And definitely go and meet your friend you've had a tough few days. All our tiny baby classes seen to be in Mondays and I was showed in this week. Try again next week. They can also swim before their jabs as the chlorine kills the bugs.

We've gone backwards today. J is retusing to eat more than 3oz and wants it every 3 hours. He's taking an hour per feed too. Pretty sure he's trying to kill me off! I had a dream where I just poured the full bottle down his throat and then wondered why I'd never done it before.

Zcos you are not spoiling your baby by feeding her when she's hungry. Introducing a bottle of formula is fine, of you read back through the thread the other bfing ladies have been discussing it. Do not give your baby cooled boiled water, you'll fill her but she wont be getting the food she needs. mums often come out with loads of unhelpful outdated advice - this is where smile, nod and carry in regardless comes in very helpful!

Thanks zcos I've not even tried putting him down early yet. I enjoy night time cuddles too much!

Will you
Think I have read on here the posts bout night bottle of formula so maybe my mum was right. Just really not sure about it every time we have a bad night I think I will change my mind.

zcos welcome. Ethan is my 3rd dc and I'm still not confident in what I'm doing. I think all parents just middle through at best, especially at this early stage. All babies are different and we all have to find their individual cues and what response they need. I think the only advantage the experienced mums have is difinitive proof that nothing lasts forever and as a good old MN saying goes 'this too shall pass'.

Well Ethan slept on me from 10.30-12 the in his crib from 1-3.30 and back in his crib 4.30-6. He's now sleeping on me until 7.39 when I'll go sort the big dcs, nights like that I can deal with :)

I told DH how I am feeling about never having another baby. I don't think he understands but let's see what the future brings.

Zcos I felt (feel) exactly the same about the night time formula. I think if I didn't have older dd to consider too I wouldn't have done it. But I have no chance to catch up on sleep in the day and was being a horrible shouty mum. Sometimes I am so tired I can barely string a sentence together so I think it's the best thing for us.

Agree with WillYou that there's no need for water and, although your mum means well, advice has changed a lot since she had children

We have only bought a couple of cartons of formula so if it doesn't make a difference we haven't wasted £10 on a tub. Also if you do do it there's nothing to say you have to do it every night just once in a while to give you a sleep!

Have been reading the conversation from overnight and want to join in, but C's feeds have all been under 10 minutes so no time! And much as I love you guys I ain't staying awake when C's asleep.

Someone remind me to ask about bedtime routines...

spotty that's great, glad you got some sleep and are feeling better.
I feel a bit bad this morning. We went to bed at 12.30 after feeding and settling Elijah and we didn't wake up until 6.30 when DPs alarm went off. He's only 3 weeks, is that a bit young to be going so long without food? Should I start setting an alarm for the night feed do you think? Who'd thought sleeping through the night would cause such worry.

This great MyDaydream but at that age I would probably only was him to go five hours. How much does he weigh? If he's big then I think it's ok for him to go longer. SCBU said ds could go max five hours at two weeks old because he was a good size

He was 8lb6 at his last weigh in but that was over a week ago, he seems a lot heavier than that now. Usually I wake up around 3 to feed him, and he starts fussing about 3.30/4 if I haven't woken up then.

Maybe he knew you needed some sleep! He will probably make up for it today