November 2012 - the best post-natal quiche on MN

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1655656-November-2012-sleeping-through-yet

The answer to the sleeping though question was a chorus of "no"s but there were a few resounding yesses and a lot more keeping quiet because the rest of us would be well jel.

Woop yw ! Loved seeing J from a germ-proof distance last week. Definitely meet for a proper cuddle this week!!

Awww VQ we are putting LO in cot in his own room and I'm the same. I can't cope with it. DP is having to do it all. It makes my boobs hurt!!

Hello YW! Glad you are all safe.

Suppose camping is doable absolutely cold water sterilising and stuff all could work. Hardest bit I suppose is making sure they are warm enough.

Hi YW.

Fattima we are going to Playa des Palma cos it?s only 5 mins from airport. l have read loadss of good stuff about Alcudia.

Well dd got her birthday party and only one person didn?t make it. Iif it weren?t for bf l would be on my 3rd glass of red to recover from the stress! Making do with chocolate instead.

Welcome back YW

Do you all do a dream feed? B normally wakes between 9-10pm for a feed but hasn't tonight. Should I wake her or just go to bed?

I've never camped with a baby but we have and regularly camp with dd1 (5). We spent 2 1/2 weeks travelling around the whole perimeter of Cornwall last summer. I'm already thinking about the logistics of this with a baby as well. May can be a bit hit or miss with the weather, I'd decide on the day. Camping when it is raining and cold is no fun.

Welcome back YW Hope the move went ok.

Fatima I also did do a sport that involved camping but the one event I went to when DD1 was 6 months, I chickened out and booked a B&B! (good job too - it absolutely chucked it down all weekend) There is a camping section on here somewhere - I'm sure they'll have all the answers on there.

evil it is really sad that you have to persuade your DP to spend 30 mins with his own son :( I hope he sorts himself out.

We seem to alternate good nights and bad nights so I am currently psyching myself up for a bad one.

VQ I am sorry you are going through this. As others have said it's not a fault/guilt issue. It's possibly because he was poorly early on, so he has been more clingy towards you. It's wonderful that he trusts and loves you so much.

I can understand that you really need to get some sleep. But you can always change your mind if cc is too difficult at this stage. Sending love.

Stunt my LO has 11 or 12 feeds in 24 hours most days, the other day it was 15! She is 9 weeks too

Garden hope your DP bucks his ideas up! Staying in bed til 2pm when you've been up all night?!? What a selfish git

Chunky my DP is the same, never seems to think to learn how to do something himself when it comes to looking after DCs - much easier to let me do it and then ask me. I don't understand it and it infuriates me.

That's quite a range of feeds, from four to twenty a day. J seems to feed erratically with very different gaps between feeds: 8:20, 12:50, 2:15, 5:30, 7:50, 9:15, 1:00, 2:00, 5:00, 6:00, 7:40 in one 24-hour period so I'm having trouble organising myself around him when it can be anything from one to four hours between feeds.

Welcome back YW!!

Glenda No need to thank me, I've been searching for a swaddle myself... This one fits the bill!.

Okay, I am actually ROTFLMFAO!!! Someone just posted this on another thread. I vaguely remember seeing this before, but it is just far too apt right now! Even more so if you have a -terrible-- toddler!!

Go the fuck to sleep!

Hi YW you have been.noticeable in your absence :)

VQ That's tough to go through, have no advice, but you (both) need more sleep. Whilst DH's "sleep gene" infuriates me when he's falling asleep on the loo it whatever, but it seems to have been inherited by my DC and for this I am eternally grateful. I hope you have a better night.

evil why is your DP so reluctant to spend time with your DS? Does he say why or is it just that he doesn't say anything, then you ask and he gets stroppy, making out YABU? I think that would be reason enough for me to leave personally...

I'm doing a dream feed toomany but it usually works out DS is starting to grunt & fidget anyway, so not dead to the world iyswim. Last couple of nights its meant a longer stretch until morning, but before then, it didn't seem to make much odds. It depends if you want to risk being awake again in a little while anyway.... Sorry, no help whatsoever!!

As I said, dream-feeding the Chubster after falling asleep on the sofa, so desperate to get to bed myself, despite the good nights the last 2. What's that about? Anyway, I hope everyone gets lots of "zzzzzs", particularly you VQ. Night all.

PR yes, that phrase is far too evident in my life. Thank you, and others for your kind words x

pikz thinking of you x my boobs are actually beginning to recover a bit.

fatima camping with a non crawling baby is the easiest it will ever be. I avoid camping with a toddler whenever possible, crawler is manageable. Bf babies are easiest. Gets a bit more tricky with formula and solids. Keeping them cool is the hardest bit. I spent most of the summer camping when DD2 was small. Started at 6 weeks and she actually started sleeping through when camping. I took a temperature thing with me and adjusted layers as necessary. She slept in a fabric drawer from ikea which folded up small, on a sim. Wonderful days, and nights.

J woke after three hours and is struggling to settle.

I have just stood in my bedroom doorway swinging the sodding Moses basket like an actual swing. Meanwhile DP is lay in bed. Then he started snoring. I wanted to stab the bastard not actual but maybe with something blunt!!. My arms were about to drop off but thank the lord the baby dropped off first!

This putting him down earlier thing is hard. We have got him ready for bed between 9-10 when he has a last feed. First night we put him in the basket in our room. Ended up spending 3 hours in the bedroom as he wouldn't be left. Even though he was asleep. He just whinged if left alone . Second night Dp tool it upon himself to just let him sleep in his arms til we came to bed. Naturally he woke the minute he was put down. Then a crap night was had figuratively speaking by all. Tonight we tried putting him in the basket once asleep, but in the living room. This worked fine. Til we picked up the basket and came upstairs (made DP walk behind me like a shadow as I hate hate hate carrying a baby up the stairs in a moses basket.) then he woke and I spent 45 minutes shushing, rocking and eventually swinging the sodding basket.

Maybe we should just let him do 11pm and come to bed with him. This seems much harder work!!

Heydetective, how old is your LO? I can't remember. We had that problem with DS until this week when he turned 12 weeks. A few weeks ago I tried settling him earlier in our bedroom and failed. Gave up, left it a week, failed, left it another week and then this week, it worked and he was settled by 8! Hss done that a few nights in a row now. Assume it is just because he is older.

Not saying I've been having a good nights sleep though as I haven't! He has a cold (again) so other than a stretch from 8 to 12 he then wakes every hour so I am getting no sleep at all. Hence limited posts this week as I've been too tired to open my eyes during the night feeds. Feel a little better tonight as asked DH to do a dream feed so I could catch up on some zzz's. DS still woke at 2.30 so not great, but an improvement on recent nights.

Right, am off to catch up on rest of thread.

and for all those in need. R is mega colicky but as he'll be 9 weeks tomorrow I'm hoping we're reaching the hump iyswim and it'll improve soon. Biggest stress factor for dp right now is seeing me struggle, but i can't help R stop hurting and i get upset which i try to hide... Vicious circle we've had success with Woodward's gripe water, should i get more or try something else?

grr three pages to catch up on...

I used Infacol for DS1, Purple and if was easy to give to him and seemed to help. His colic stopped abruptly at 12 weeks; one day he had it then the next day it was gone.

J woke 4.15 and has had a good feed. Hard to settle earlier and now, but 4 hours between feeds so if settling becomes easier, I may get more sleep. So far I have had less than usual but possibly better quality?

detective I've had no luck in getting N down any earlier, so I'm just going to go with it at the moment, but try again every so often so I don't end up with her still sleeping on me at midnight when she'd happily go into her cot at 8! voice of bitter experience

I was right with the bad night prediction - I am in need of matchsticks to keep my eyes open. I also have a raging sore throat.

VQ sounds like he's heading in the right direction. Light at the end of the tunnel?

detective as your son was three weeks late is there ever any adjustment to his age that way?

Hopefully kirrin sorry you are having a shit night and feel poorley x

Gah, long post lost last night due to mn going offline. Too tired to rewrite it now so will just say hi and that LO's sleep has been appalling for the last week!

Oh, am happy to see my post wasn't loss after all - got the message that mumsnet was offline when I tried to post it but can see it is there after all!

So far he went in cot at 11 and woke at 1.40 and 5.40. Seems to settle back quite quickly after feed.

Am sleeping cuddling the monitor. God I'm sad.

He did it again, he had his last feed at 6pm, bath, story then bed by 8:15 and woke for bottle this morning at 6:15. Thing is I'm not sure I like him going so long between feeds. Am I being silly?

stunt maybe try to get him to go a bit longer between feeds,just five mins each time and he should start taking more and get a more consistent pattern? Not sure if it works the same with bf.

Detective we used to have it a bit like that but we kept putting him to bed early and he has, touch wood, gone down before 9 for about a week now :) I class it as having worked when it takes less than 20 mins to settle him :)

Hope you and j both get used to things vq