November 2012 - sleeping through yet?

[StuntNun]

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I do t know how to put links in I. Phone. So search this on amazon instead - Milton Mini Soother Steriliser (Blue)

Oh heck evil - lots of hugs lovely xxx I agree with the others, make him sweat and do the running. Chill out at your mums tonight, hot bath and gin a hot choccie Has he got form for nasty comments? Sleep deprivation makes people say and do stupid things (I am guilty of this myself - we have had some ferocious rows recently.. )

Like a mug I went and got him Worked in my favour though as the car sent M to sleep (thus saving me taking her out in an hour's time...) and dp is going to stay up with her tonight, just waking me up for feeds. Time will tell if that actually happens

Det. Further info for u. The Milton thing needs tablets. So cud just get tables n use in a cheaper container. Or. Pipila Ultra Violet Portable Pacifier Steriliser uses batteries.
Not seen the toppee wipes. Just use the Milton ones on my bag but don't think u can clean a dummy with them.

I saw the mini dummy steriliser things in Asda GT but thought at £7, it was expensive for the amount of times I'd probably need it! I thought the cheapo bottle with some milton in would be a cheap solution, but the wipes were £2 and there are 39 I think, which would last me an age!

30 not 39!

Here is his txt. I've replied that "we are ok. See you tomorrow.

Not coming home tonight? well it's OK, sorry anyway for having tooth pain for the last 3 days and sorry for getting a cold today, sorry for being to have to work despite my pain and sorry for asking for a bit of help of my mum, but I guess that you staying with your mum now is sort of same help but ok, sorry anyway, next time I won't rest during my briefly time of the day that I have to rest I will then cook for you, even thou everyday I look after nicholas while you cook, but not even when I'm sick I can have a break, ok sorry for that too.

That's not a proper apology Evil, he doesn't say 'sorry I was a twat' just 'sorry bad stuff has been happening to me'. It's a start but he needs to take responsibility for what he has done wrong as well.

What about using a dummy clip Detective and GT?

evil, that is no apology, just a load of excuses. I think Words are needed tomorrow!

Thanks for the link detective .

Teddy just woke himself up screaming and farting. He does seem to suffer with trapped wind. Maybe I need to give him something, is in facial the best thing? Ds1 never had this prob. I never even used to need to burp him after feeds.

Infacol not in facial!

Just up to feed after putting Toby down at 9.30.....hurrah!

Braving our first mum and baby group on Monday - hopefully they won't eat me alive. We have baby massage starting in a few weeks, and baby yoga too. Now that he can go longer between feeds, I can start getting out more

I agree evil, that's a v weak apology!

If a good night is three feeds (12, 2. 5) then this is not a good night since we are already on the third at 3 a.m. Why does he need so many? I got nearly three hours between two feeds last night but sometimes it is less than an hour. It is very stressful and made worse by DH and now DM keeping saying 'Shall I give him a bottle?' That makes me want to pour them all down the sink as it undermines me. What's the point of giving a bottle if I'm awake with him? It would be different if someone would give him a bottle in the night once in a while but DH needs his sleep for work and not falling asleep at the wheel. How do pilots and surgeons etc. cope with the lack of sleep when there's a baby in the house?

How old is he stuntmum?

Ah stunt I will join u tonight :(. LO just wouldn't settle tonight. She slept from 9pm to 12am but then had to be fed 12.30am, 1.30am in between waking up everytime we try put her in her cot . Finally asleep by 2.30am then woke at 3.15am , another feed, sleeps on me, even snores but as soon as down in cot she's wide awake :( ..... Now back on me.

Wondering if its my milk... I'm on antibiotics cause of mastitis and its really affected her. She finds it hard to poo and has diarrhoea after feeds.

I completely broke down earlier as I'm thinking this isn't good, she's making me ill (fusses in my breast that is already sore and I'm making her ill with crappy milk ). Feels like I have no choice and should go to formula. I really don't want to but this is my 2nd bout of infection and I can't do it again :(

Feel like such a failure... I couldn't give birth and ended up with a ecs and now I can't even fed. I feel so useless

Sleeping through the night? Not in this house! Even on those nights where the 11 week old does manage a decent stretch (rare), then the 22 month old wakes. Infact, since DS2 was born DS1 has been sleeping terribly, he always used to be good.

To lane and the others talking about mouldy rooms, we bought ourselves a dehumidifier recently as we get a lot of condensation in our house. I'd recommend getting one as ours is sucking 5 litres of water out of the air every two days. Admittedly it is in the room where we dry the laundry.

Will try catching up on rest of thread, but it moves so fast that I can't keep up (plus I have discovered a right move addiction and can't stop searching for my dream house in the middle of the night)

Now on the fifth feed. He's eight weeks Nilly. I was on antibiotics when my CS scar got infected Candy and J had 'loose bowels' as my mum would say. I took probiotics to help his gut flora (and mine) recover. Don't get disheartened now Candy, you're getting to the easy bit. Yes J is feeding frequently tonight, possibly he's under the weather as he's very blocked up, but he latches on so easily now. A few more weeks and my breasts won't be getting engorged any more. Then it's plain sailing until he's weaned. I can smell the Karvol plugin is working which should clear his nose. Maybe I will get a bit more sleep before morning.

Don't feel like a failure for having a section Candy. I had one with DS1 and with DS3, both emergencies. DS1 would have died without it (and came pretty close). DS3 was transverse and wouldn't come out. My babies would not have been liveborn without the sections, it isn't a matter of success or failure, it's about getting baby delivered safely. I'm sure your situation was similar but the trauma can mess with your head afterwards. Now I don't know how DS2 managed to get out the normal way. If when I have a fourth child it will have to be an ELCS as there's too much damage for a normal delivery now but you wouldn't call me a failure so don't go blaming yourself about it hun. It was a medical necessity no more, no less.

Oh candy, please don't feel useless. You are doing amazingly.

Needing an EMC is both normal and common and in no way should you feel like you have failed by needing one.

Breastfeeding is so hard and fraught with trials. It is also different for each mother and baby. You have done fantastically in getting so far. There is absolutely nothing to feel bad about if you move to formula.

Candy - an emcs is not a failure, making sure your baby arrived safely and you are well is the only importance. Breastfeeding is a bloody tough business - I think we all need to congratulate ourselves more and be a bit kinder. Never feel guilty about your choices.

Candy I have felt like that about the CS, and L's failure to gain weight. I know rationally it doesn't matter how he came out but I have said exactly those words when I've been feeling down. A friend who's had both CS and VB said she really didn't consider one of her births more successful than the other. But I know it is hard when you are feeling vulnerable and exhausted.

I can't quite believe I am sitting up at 5.15am hooked up to a breast pump.

I had an emcs - just very, very glad Alex arrived safe and well.

I can't say I find breastfeeding easy yet - milk seems only to be coming in which may be due to constant demands for food and a possible growth spurt. Breastfeeding has never been like those daft pictures with a calm baby and a smiling mother.

Oh candy I too have felt like that. You are so not a failure! Nothing you describe is anything other than normal. Now, look at your beautiful little girl. Look at her little hands and feet, chubby little legs, her ears, her nose etc. You made her. You gave her life. She got stuck coming out but thankfully we have the skilled medics to save mums and babies in that situation. Breast feeding is bloody hard. It is suck a selfless thing to do. Especially with soreness. Your milk is not bad. It is magic wonderfulness that your body makes for your baby! Hugs x

evil that is not an apology. What he said is wicked even if he was tired. If my husband said that he would be shown the door. I would encourage you to make him sweat and stay with your mum for a while. You and n deserve better than that. That is not a loving thing to say at all x

Better night with j but his nose gets so blocked!

Bollocks. DP has been called out to an emergency. He shouldnt really have come home last night but him and the other crew split the shift because theres just one boat in just now and we are a 5 min drive from docks . Now that boat has failed. When his phone went though I was in that half asleep stage where id just fed m and had put hrr back down. I was dreaming I was still feeding her and got so confused when his pager woke me up (bliddy loud thing!) and she was in her basket!!!

evil I think i would be even more angry with that text than his initial behaviour! What a twunt.

candy I know how you feel but you are not useless. You are wonderful. You are a mum, and all those lovely things vqsays are true. Yu have your family and you do your very best for them. Also, everything really does come together in the end, chains of events take place and later you can look back and see why they were for the best.

evil he needs to say sorry for those words

Brrrr mm he will be cold.