Brooking no argument for babies who sleep, eat, smile and behave perfectly at all times. Yeah right!

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New thread, here we go...

Oh and when ds2 is feeding without looking round he is grabbing handfuls of boob or pulling the boob out of his mouth with his hand or scratching my chest

My iPhone autocorrect has decided today that instead of boob I must mean noob. It is quite insistent on the matter. Wtf sort of word is noob - I've never ever used it (apart from twice now which will no doubt just further convince the phone that that's what I mean )

heehee noob.

How did M do in the end too? Brooking you got some sleep!

I didnt give dd1 an advent calendar when she was this age but last year did a fabric pocket one for her so will be doing one for the both of them this year. dd2's is more for dd1 seeing she has one really I guess!

So far for non choke-ables I have come up with:

Light up balloons

Punch ball balloons

Balloons

Friendship bracelets in fabric

Chocolate (it's one of the major food groups don't ya know)

And Im trying to find cheap little mini cuddle animals things.

Everyone loves a balloon!!

Gaah.

12 midnight: Fourth wake up
1.15am: Fifth wake up
3ish: 6th wake up
6am: 7th wake up. Brought her into bed with me, where she fed a bit, howled for 3 seconds and then conked out, then repeated at intervals for 45 mins, at which point I had to get up to take DH to work and she fell asleep on DH's chest. Had I not had to get up I think she would have slept until 8.

Oh yes, and the reason I needed to take DH to work so I could have the car was not for some wonderful fun thing, it was because I've got a smear test this afternoon. I hear the universe laughing...

Ninja, , I don't know anything about house-buying in England, but am Brooking v hard that everything will be sorted out quickly and painlessly. It'll be okay - as everyone has said, think of the lovely new house and all the new space!

Scarlet, so pleased you got the CBT early! Hoping that it helps, and that DS gets better v soon.

Scream, how did you get on with the no-milk bootcamp?

Biscuits, I would gladly have swapped you a wakeful baby for a snoring DH - at least you can poke DH in the ribs to make him stop, or failing that, one of you can move to the spare bed. Can I just say, I want to smack Elizabeth Pantley and her sleep-begetting-sleep theory?

oh and stickers and maybe wooden slide whistles too?

pomme I got a little fabric moose thing (kind of reindeerish) from ikea that was only 40p I think and suitable from birth. Small enough to fit in your hand am quite cute.

I had prodded and prodded DH to get him to stop - eventually I told him he'd have to go in the spare bed but would have to put the sheet and duvet cover on first as I'd just washed it. He magically stopped snoring at that point

Tag team babies again last night :( More calpokl fell asleep instead of getting up and was nearly half an hour late for work. oops. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thank you all for making me feel better. It does have more room, it is in quite a nice area (not as lovely as my current road, which is full of ugly flats and houses but lovely people, shame we couldn't afford a house here without needing well over half a million quid) and we will have several friends in nearby roads. The money thing is horribly stressful, we'd have been well and truly fucked without my folks i think. I know dp is stressed too as he's not sleeping well atm. We'll get there (we have too!). The building work is a bit stressful too as roofer is trying to get out of his guarantee as work needs doing as he cocked it up previously.
Boo to bad sleeping babies but yay to cbt for scarlet. Forgot all else, need to pack and make a million phone calls. My mum is coming up to help today though and dp's folks arrive tomorrow so at least i can get on while they look after the kids.

Aaaaaaaargh! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh! That feels better. M won't sleep, despite red eyes of tiredness. She is so grumpy and cross, but every time I try feeding her to sleep she twists and wriggles like a snake. She nearly fell off my knee, and when I sat her up she headbutted me in the jaw and cried, but still won't sleep. I took her temperature because she's so unhappy but it was normal. Oh, more howls. Back in a bit!

The advent calenders sound good, I looked at chocolate advent calenders for me and dh because of course DD is too little I want to buy a nice decorative stocking for DD to go on our fireplace, we used to have an openfire but now we have a wood burning stove, just not sure how I would hang it,, I'd make one but don't think it would look as nice as ones sewing shop has sold previously plus I haven't managed to finish DD's cardi which is size 0-3 months lol

Ninja the house/ building work sounds difficult but like the others have said it will all be lovely when its finished

Biscuits Didn't have a snoring DH but did have one that wanted at least 2/3 of the bed. Perhaps if you get chance make bed up ready for tonight or get him to so its there ready and then perhaps hell respond to prods better. When I snored before being pg dh would kick me! Pg so far seems to have cured issue or i'm not asleep enough for either of us to notice lol

I think I have blocked ducts but not in an easy place to massage whilst feeding, its side that arm comes nearest to also when can af show its ugly head? Stomach feels like af considering appearance, never used to have pre symptoms but i'm trying a diff method of contraception.

We still chocolate advent calendars. MIL buys us one each I don't feel bad though I'm just making up for the years my mum would never buy me one . My mum would always say 'they're so expensive for the amount of chocolate. It would be better to just but a big bar and have a lump every day . Oddly though that never materialised either!

Oh no - boo to blocked ducts cakes . It's really hard to massage there while they're feeding isn't it. Things I did for blocked ducts: hot water bottle on the sore bit when I went to bed; massage it before and after a feed; massage in the shower and / or use a wide toothed comb to massage it. Erm, maybe other things but I'm forgetting . Oh yes, the single best thing for blockages there was to feed rugby ball / under arm. That could clear it in one feed. If you can get their bottom lip working the same side as the blockage it really helps. Dream is also one of the worlds foremost experts on blocked ducts (sadly for her!).

This too shall pass Ninja - and soon - I shall brook no argument about it!

Too sounds like teething I think? Just random wild crying often = teething. Could try calpol? Or have you already?

Oh my Cadburys chocolate Phily light delish!! Although apart from spreadable consistency you wouldn't know it was phily cheese

Love it! but only seem to be able to eat it by the tubfull

Ooh, Advent calendars! We always had ones with pictures behind the doors when I was little - Advent is a time of fasting and preparation and boozy parties don't ya know? And we used to close the doors carefully before putting them away to reuse the next year. My mum sends me one every year. I'm 32. DS can share mine this year. But I'm going to put at least one chocolate penny in his stocking for Christmas day.

Also mega boo for all the sleepless / poorly LOs. DS not sleeping well here either. Not crawling, either - he can shuffle backwards on his tummy, crying all the time because he wants to go forwards! He's not getting up on all fours or rocking yet so I think it'll be a while.

Scream earlier mornings to facilitate earlier bedtime sounds sensible. Hope it pays dividends soon.

Ninja that all sounds like a nightmare. :( When do you actually move in? I'm sure, as the others have said, it will be worth it in the end and you'll never have to do it again .

Dream my little sister got worms a few times - I think my mum checked her pants cos she kept scratching her bum. I just remember cos we all had to drink that foul purple liquid. But my DSis was a thumb-sucker and I can see that that would make her more likely to catch them. Anyway, hope you get rid of them without stress or foul purple drinks .

Cakes massaging the area in the shower with a wide-toothed comb rubbed in soap, and expressing a bit at the same time, unblocked a couple of ducts for me. Good luck.

Oh, for an Advent calendar with pockets, what about tiny nativity scene figures? So each day they can add to the tableau? I guess lots of sheep would be required to fill 24 pockets though!

I kind of thought she had to have a temp for Calpol to be advised. She does seem happier post-nap, though. Just nipping out to collect DH (and give Biscuits' sister a lift home!) - back soon.

Calpol is paracetamol for babies. If I had a headache I would take some without worrying if I have a temperature so kind of apply the same theory to DD IYSWIM Too

Not that we have a thermometer so wouldn't know if any of us had a temperature anyway...

Agree with rubber although also it took me a long time to be brave enough to give it to ds1 without him actually having a temperature to 'prove' my solution iyswim. It's not like they can tell you they're in pain, which was my problem. But now if there is no temp I just go on how he seems in himself - you know if he seems particularly distressed or seems to have an area that hurts.

Hope my sis has behaved herself too

We do have a thermometer but I can pretty much tell their temperature by touch these days

She was very well behaved, Biscuits! I made DH buy a £40 ear thermometer the day M had her first jabs. Mind you, it took a lot of wrestling to get it into her ear this morning. I tried letting her suck it but it wouldn't register a temperature that way. M does seem better now - perhaps it was just tiredness.

Cakes, Brooking No Argument that the symptoms of blocked ducts vanish sharpish!

I got bollocked for a GP for having no thermometer when DD was 1 ish and I took her... I used to rely on dh getting home and using his work one! Worth it too

Day 5 of illness here. DD 39.3 overnight. S only sleeping in my bed, up on the pillows, and only if hid head is touching mine. How have we got so bad in 5 nights with the sleep habits?!,

So, dh has had a crap night with me helping with multiple ill children, but he's got a £400 exam today, a viva so hard anyway...

i use my now redundant charting bbt thermometer in armpits! it's quite accurate. :)

DS1 slept all night and DS1 only up twice between 11 and 6 so a lot better sleep for me. DS1 still not right and not eating much though. i haven't bothered measuring his temp, he feels hot though. :(

oh dream, I'm sure once they're better the sleep will get back to as normal as possible. :(

Good luck to your DH, Dream - Brooking that he sails through his exam with flying colours.

God sleep deprivation is so yucky. Poor dh dream (and you of course!!)

I am trying the mumsnet gammon in coke thing today. I have quite a big slow cooker and the gammon joint is just sitting there with a few cm of coke and bbq sauce splashing around its bottom. Is that right??? There's two cans of coke and half a bottle of the bbq sauce in there. I am so not a natural cook. In fact Im a terrible cook.