Brooking no argument for babies who sleep, eat, smile and behave perfectly at all times. Yeah right!

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New thread, here we go...

Ninja, the BigBaubles one made me giggle aloud - gotta be that!

Fairies, being up since 4 sounds rough - sympathies!

Dream, don't fret about the worms. I think most kids get them at some stage, boak! I certainly did, anyway. Hope the other ailments clear up quickly too and B stops grizzling!

Jaggy, I did a bit more co-sleeping over the weekend because we were at my dad's and M kept on waking up in the travel cot on Friday night. I let her sleep with us for a bit and then sneaked her back into the cot twice, but she didn't stay there for very long. Last night I was stricter and she was less unsettled - and I think less cold. It was pretty chilly in the bedroom on Friday and I think that wasn't helping with the wake-ups.

Yay for E going to sleep on his own, Biscuits!

ooo dream now I feel all responsible! Dont make me responsible for formula vs bm! However, I really do think it's helped. 38 weeks of bf = 1 sleep through and soul destroying sleep deprivation. 6 days of formula feeding = 3 sleep throughs....

I'm not sleeping well though, takes ages to get off and my sleep is really light. grr.

Also don't worry about the worms, but I know how you feel. When dd1 got nits I felt like we must be really dirty. She was only 22 months - it seemed so young!

God, Monday again tomorrow!

too I keep trying so hard to be strict, but falling asleep feeding! seems to happen whether i lie down or sit up and even if i get up and sit in a chair. useless.

It's been even worse since i have to set my alarm and get up early for work.

DS1 always seemed to sleep better if he was warm, i dressed him in long sleeved vests under his pjs all through winter. i can't tell if it makes much difference to DS2 yet...

I'm quite happy to co sleep a bit if it gets me more rest, DH is a bit nervous that DS2 will never sleep in his cot all night. i pointed out that although i didn't have DS1 in our bed, he spent hours sleeping on my knee in the chair i used to have in his bedroom. Ikea Poang can take a lot of sleeping...

pants night. :(

i didn't get to bed till just after 11 despite good intentions about an early night. DS2 woke as i got ready for bed, couldn't get him settled, eventually transferred him to cot at 2am.

DS1 up ill from 3am to 4am, not sure what's up but he was really hot.

DS2 up at 4.15am...

ended up keeping him beside me just so i didn't disturb DS1 by taking him back through.

I'm going to be even less useful that a chocolate teapot today.

Oh Jaggy how awful . You poor thing and poor poorly ds1 - hope he's better this morning

Hope today whizzes by and you can get back to your bed nice and early. I prescribe an early night for you m'dear

thanks biscuits. :) have had my shower so almost awake.

well i sneaked DS2 back through so i could get up and had a feel of DS1's head, he definitely seems less hot. i was flapping as i thought he was going to be sick last night, DH was as i went about with a bowl.

really need an early night!

luckily I'm working with some of my best work buddies today, so that will keep me going...

Hi ladies! Sorry to hear about the lack of sleep and poorly mini No Brookers Big hugs to the Dream household in particular! Threadworms are definitely one of the things I'm dreading the most! Wow for E settling himself to sleep though Biscuits! Fancy swapping babies for, say, a year or so?

I'm just back from a long boozy weekend in France, it was the hen weekend for one of my best friends. DD seems to have had a good time with DH while I was gone, although I'm sooooo annoyed that he ignored all my weeks of strict bedtimes / enforced sleeping in the cot not co-sleeping. So DD will be especially unsettled at night for at least the next week, sigh. I've missed her so much though! She seems bigger! [ridiculously illogical emoticon]

Welcome Fairies! I'm on my phone so can't update the full list. However my entry is:

Scream - Autumn, 6.75 months

Yay! Welcome back Scream - seems like long time no write - hope you're well .

Your weekend away sounds fab - hope you thoroughly enjoyed it. DH often says that either or both of the DSs seen bigger when he's not seen them all week

Hope that A settles back into your routine ASAP . Yet to determine if ds2 can repeat this self settling miracle as he fell asleep feeding last night. Who knows.....

Morning! A new dawn, a new diet...going back to work is looming and I want to be a bit thinner by the time I go back. I did eat 3 blueberry muffins yesterday just so they wouldn't be in the house to derail me today, though.

Jaggy, so sorry you had a terrible night. Hope DS1 is much better today.

Scream, welcome back! Your weekend away sounds fab. Especially the boozy part!

Last night M was so good and only woke up twice - once at 9.45 and once at 2ish! She was up for quite a long time - I didn't get back to bed until 2.40, but then she slept right through until 8! We had a power cut and the baby monitor started to beep loudly , which I think disturbed her (this was before she woke up at 2), and then it got pretty chilly because the heating doesn't work without the electricity. The power went back on at 2.20 while I was feeding M, the room started to warm up and she conked out within 20 minutes.

morning all, scream your weekend away sounds lovely, hope A settles for you this week.
jaggy for you m'dear, prop those eyelids open and listen to DrBiscuits early night advice.
Got a poorly baby here, she coughed and sneezed all night, even in her sleep. We've all had v chesty coughs here so off to docs this afternoon to make sure her chest is ok. She's currently asleep on my lap. Which is a shame as I want to get some breakfast!
Ok, i'm off to make a massive to do list, probably be back here very soon

thanks guys.

DS1 was a lot brighter when he got up at 7 and woke up his baby brother, but didn't want any breakfast which is not like him. DH says he was a bit brighter so they went out a walk. he's still v hot though and not hungry.

hopefully he'll have a nap and sleep off the unspecified lurgy a bit.

on my expressing break, i always feel guilty ditching my workmates even though i don't take a tea break instead.

think i need a coffee at lunch time though, might make me hyper as i don't drink tea or coffee or any caffeinated stuff often!

hope DD better soon ninja, just what you need with a million things to do! :(

Not sure if those of you who have had sections have seen this

Could it be a urinary infection, Jaggy? I suppose it could be a virus or something too.

Ninja, Brooking for DD to get well soon! Poor little thing.

Grr, bloody baby food. M has been spoon-refusing, or perhaps more accurately, refusing to eat anything from a spoon that isn't sweet. She'll still pick up and gnaw bread, breadsticks, cheese, meat, cherry tomatoes, apple slices etc. She had a few spoonfuls of spicy tomato soup for dinner last night and then again at lunchtime today, but then howled at me when I tried to give her a bit more. I'm not sure if it was too spicy for her, although the bright pinkness of her bum suggests it may have been. I thought Indian babies would eat spicy food, so why not M, but she seems to have different ideas. So for lunch today she has had maybe 5 teaspoonfuls of soup, a fair bit of cheese and a tiny bit of sliced apple. I don't think this is enough. She wolfed down Greek yoghurt for breakfast, plus quite a lot of sliced apple, but she can't eat yoghurt for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

too - is she teething? Mine HATE the spoon when teething. I have not got enough patience for blw so it drives me crackers.

Jen thanks for the link!

Too M sounds exactly like little A with all the random gyrating to get around the room! She does voluntarily spend more time on her hands and knees now though, so we now think she might crawl at some point rather than skipping it. It's all a bit nerve-wracking though, considering I haven't even began baby-proofing and I don't really believe it's possible to baby proof our house

Little A has been offered a place at nursery! Eeeek!! From January 18th she'll be going one day week at our preferred nursery. I'm still not going back to work until the end of April, but it's really hard to get the days you want at this nursery because it's so popular, so by accepting one day a week as early as January, we get onto the shorter internal waiting list for the other days we want. Fingers crossed we'll get the other days we need by the time I go back to work. I'm so nervous at the idea of someone unrelated to DD looking after her! I'm also giddy with excitement at the idea of a whole day to myself each week!

Jaggy I hope work is going well for you! Also, I'm still No Brooking for the poorly babies in the Jaggy, Ninja and Dream households (plus any others I've missed - sorry!)

Today I woke DD up earlier than usual, I'm getting her to stay awake longer between naps, and I'm limiting the length of each nap. We're also implementing a water-only rule between the hours of 11pm and 6am (for the last week she's been having heavily diluted formula between 11 and 6, but now it's time to completely eliminate the night milk). So I think the next couple of nights will be hard, with an overtired hungry baby, but I'm desperately hoping this will lead to better nights by next week! Wish me luck!

Pomme, not sure if she's teething. She's been drooling a lot more for the last week, but she hasn't had any teeth yet so I don't know if this is it or not. Maybe! I suppose babies could be having tooth pain for weeks and months before any break through, just as the teeth grow in the gums, though.

Scream, good luck! How long does A usually last between naps atm? M usually lasts exactly 3 hours between getting up and her first (and often only) nap. She'd normally then nap for 1.5 - 2 hrs. Today, however, she slept much better last night and was grizzly and ready for a snooze after only 2 hours - up at 8, napping by 10.15. She only napped for an hour, but went down for a second nap at 2.10, getting up at 3.30. We'll see how she goes to bed!

And yay for getting the place at the nursery you like! Brooking that you'll get the other days you want very soon. Little A will love it - she sounds v sociable.

M went to bed at 7, with the greatest of ease. I feel bad even writing that, like I'm jinxing things. For some reason as I was putting her to bed, I was overtaken with the feeling that she was going to sleep through the night. I was positive. Scarily positive. I'm now trying to talk myself down - it's not going to happen, don't get your hopes up! I'm setting myself up for failure here. But there's just the tiniest tiniest chance that actually I'm psychic and tonight's going to be the night for the first time in about 3 months. Btw, it still counts in my head as sleeping through the night even if she wakes up during the evening. So long as she doesn't actually wake me up it counts.

I literally just pressed post and she woke up.

Awesome going to bed M. Remember Too it could (no, will) still be tonight for sleeping through.

DS2 just pushed himself up to sitting from lying on his front. Sadly I missed this feat as ds1 and I were engrossed in a conversation about how much he likes smelling things (), but ds2 was merrily going backwards across the floor (the descriptions of M and A and their rotating and going backwards match him to a T). Then I turned round and he was sat up checking himself out in ds1's mirrored wardrobe door!

Oh yes good luck Scream with boot camp tonight . Hope it goes well.

Just think we'll all look back and laugh at these days when we have teenagers that we can't get out of bed for love nor money!

I'm such an idiot. i put DS2 on DS1's bed (he loves it) and somehow looked away for a few seconds before i sat down beside him. he managed to fall off face first :( :( :( i was standing a few inches away FFS. his wee nose is skinned and he's got a bruise on his forehead.

I've just got that shaky feeling when you worry about what could have happened.

the bed is very low but still plenty of distance, even for a big baby. grr. i feel so stupid and angry with myself. I think being tired has not helped my concentration.

thinking it might be a virus or something DS1 has. he did have a nap and wake up hungry, but didn't eat any tea and still feels warm.

I'm just sitting looking at DS2 sleeping on my knee and feeling a bit sorry for myself. hope he hasn't really hurt his poor wee nose.

right, need to try and get him in the cot without disturbing DS1 too much.

hope M is back to sleeping too

Oh Jaggy I know exactly how you feel (if not more so after I let ds2 fall off a frigging change unit on to a tiled floor!). I'm sure ds2 will be absolutely fine but there is nothing that can take away that horrible shakey-tummy feeling is there

Take it easy my lovely xx

Hope ds1 is better soon too xx

Second wake up. Grr! Why did I tempt fate by writing down my stupid feelings?

Oh Jaggy, you poor thing. It's the tiredness, I think. I'm sure he'll be fine. I know what you mean about spending ages feeling shaky, though. Was it a hard floor?

Biscuits, great news! Well done E!