October 2012 babies part 2: winding, yawning and grizzling, and first smiles?

[YompingJo]

Part 2: in which our babies learn to sleep through the night and make us tea in the morning

Help, I have night time clothing ishoos! My top half gets cold co-sleeping as can't have duvet that high up so need something with sleeves. Have to have easy access to boobs so preferably something that opens. Tried sleeping in unbuttoned pyjamas top last night but it kept flapping around and pissing me off come to think of it so did the baby . What do you wear for co-sleeping? (And yes, I do feel a bit creepy asking you what you wear in bed!)

Not great night. Woken twice to sodden bra. Running out of bras to change into. Flappy baby really annoying to have in the bed. DH had to take her eventually as I got frustrated with her . Turns out she had really bad wind as I had been too lazy tired to wind her after night feeds bad mother .

Angelico, thinking of you. Livvy, sympathy to you on baby not settling for ages - sounds like a standard night here to be honest

Help, I have night time clothing ishoos! My top half gets cold co-sleeping as can't have duvet that high up so need something with sleeves. Have to have easy access to boobs so preferably something that opens. Tried sleeping in unbuttoned pyjamas top last night but it kept flapping around and pissing me off come to think of it so did the baby . What do you wear for co-sleeping? (And yes, I do feel a bit creepy asking you what you wear in bed!)

Not great night. Woken twice to sodden bra. Running out of bras to change into. Flappy baby really annoying to have in the bed. DH had to take her eventually as I got frustrated with her . Turns out she had really bad wind as I had been too lazy tired to wind her after night feeds bad mother .

Angelico, thinking of you. Livvy, sympathy to you on baby not settling for ages - sounds like a standard night here to be honest

Morning yomping sorry you had a rough night. I'm not co sleeping but I wear a grandad style long sleeved top with buttons half way down the front so can just flop boob out in a highly unattractive fashion when needed. Also wearing breast pads inside bra day and night to stop leakage, although did soak through one the other night and needed aid needed a midnight clothing change.

yomping I wear a big baggy tshirt so I can just hike it up. Baby squid is mostly in the basket till about 5am, when I take her into bed for feeds and co-sleep from there (unless I get up at that point).

I also have giant cloths I use for feeding rather than muslins - they are soft and big so I can snuggle under them a bit as well until they are covered in vomit

My boobs leaked LOADS around the 4-6 week point but don't so much now, so I don't always wear a bra - before I was wearing a soft stretchy nursing bra with pads as well. The leaking boobs annoyed me more than anything else tbh.

Morning report: baby squid slept from 10.30pm to 5am... when I say sleep I can't ever quite believe she IS asleep because she was louder than a freight train last night. However she didn't need anything... sometimes I replace her dummy when she gets particularly restless, but she doesn't cry and seems to go ok without feeding till the morning. I can't sleep through it when she's that loud, but I am rested. Do babies get quieter??? or do we all just end up booting them into another room

My baby bloody squeaks and squawks constantly! Is she in pain or just annoying? Takes ages to settle her enough to put her down, then she squeaks and wriggles for half an hour, then she is peaceful for a few minutes and I have to keep checking she's not dead, then she starts with the noises again before finally waking up. This is our 2-3 hourly nightly routine.

Anyway, happy saturday!!! Jess has been lovely and smiley this morning. And is enjoying dad time in bed whilst I eat breakfast in blissful solitude, and now am going to go for a run, yay. Got a mate coming over to coo over Jess shortly, and then going to cook some food to take over to my sister's tomorrow. Oh my exciting life!

though .... I do need to try expressing again so I can go see PULP in a couple of weeks, how cool is that. I bought the tickets ages ago, hopefully. I will probably leak milk at the best songs

for everyone I hope

Pulp?! I am so jealous .
I'm not doing very well at keeping up here!

Thankyou for the reasurrence wrt to the nn.

Arty is now sleeping much better. She feeds all evening then goes down about 9ish, feeds around 00:30-01:30, then again around 04:30-05:30. I havent felt the same level of crazy sleep deprivation that I did with my first. So, all those who are still in the early weeks, it will pass!

squid when Jess sleeps through do you wake up uncomfortable? I woke Arty for a feed the othe night because my boobs were so full. I think she would have slept a lot longer if I hadnt.

Run postponed for one more feed---

Anyway, I really recommend using nice soft cloths instead of muslins.. a) they are bigger b) they are cheery colours c) they are softer for endlessly wiping vomity milky chops d) they cover up more of you when breastfeeding in public when you suddenly realise you are stupidly wearing a fitted top or something not very suitable for breastfeedingor is it just me who does that

a friend's mum gave me them, something like this www.amazon.com/Carters-Receiving-Blanket-Brown-Circles/dp/B001VEO2D0

HAHA! Here I am showing off about not being sleep deprived and then I wonder why my tea is so strong...the teabag is still in it! Duh!

wantanorange I did initially (and was also waking her for feeds at 3am etc) but she's been doing it for 2 weeks now and each morning has been less and less uncomfortable, this morning just felt slightly full

So of you seeing Pulp *squid! They did their comeback gig here in toulouse under a pseudonym and I missed it cos I was back in the uk grrr.

I know I'm so excited! This is Sheffield as well so a proper homecoming gig... the crowd should be immense.. and near christmas.. (8 dec)

I'm well into my local bands but have never seen Pulp before!!

yomping i have some long skeeved pj tops that button half way down the front so you can wap a boob out easily! V. Cheap from primark.

livvy that is hard going. I feel for you so much. When is the mat nurse that you like going to have some nights available? You need to keep getting some help, you can't possibly function on so little sleep. My night was a bit better thanks for asking. Dh took him into a different room for part of the night so I didn't wake at every snuffle, then we seem to have mastered feeding lying down a bit better so even though it was still every two hours, i was resting while we did it. Feel much better today. Dh at work today again so i am going up to my mum and dads for the afternoon for a change of scene. Ds1 loves my dad so much and will have great fun charging about in their garden.

Question- how do you guys fit your man in the bed as well as the baby? I am in there on my own at the moment and once i put cushions around the baby and do all the clambering over to feed on each side, I cant see where dh would fit in!

Thinking of angelico. Hope to hear it has all gone well.

Have fun with your bestie cherry xx

mickey you totally deserve an angel baby after that birth! Good grief! Hope she continues to be good.

yomping I am with you on running out if bras. Master midge always seems to puke in my cleavage. My definition of a clean bra has got somewhat looser over the last few weeks and dirty now just means 'sick you can actually see'.

Happy weekend everyone!

Can I ask is anyone else having weight gain issues? (babywise not yourselves!). Am ebf and initially went great guns, baby wooly lost 6% at 5 days then back to birthweight by day 11. However at 6 week visit only gained 1 oz over previous 2 weeks. HV initially unconcerned as felt she was just putting on length rather than weight (she outgrew her newborn stuff over this period and is measuring over the 75% centile for height). However, weighed again yesterday and only gained 3 oz (I should point out we have all been ill this week and dd has been more vomitty and pooey than normal so we were quite pleased with this). This means she's dropped 2 centiles which the hv says means she's not getting enough milk. She wants us to top her up by offering formula after the last feed of the evening but said it was up to us if we did this or not... She conceded dd very alert, smiling cooing etc. She's coming back in 2 weeks and I don't know what to do. Twice this week she's slept for 5 hours after her last feed so I find it hard to believe she's hungry. Don't want to ignore medical advice but if I give the formula and her weight improves how do I know it wasn't happening anyway as it seems to be doing by itself... Am I then tied into formula till I wean her? Very

Also of pulp squid enjoy! Dh got tickets for radiohead the day after dd born so passed on that one

Hey wooly. I would just feed more often rather than formula - I think hcp's are a bit quick to suggest it. Sounds like nothing to worry about at this stage but what do I know?

LondonMrss we also have a squeaky/squawky/snuffly baby actually he sounds like a piglet, come to think of it and we have already put him into his own room. I wasn't comfortable doing this but we have already noticed the difference so successful I guess. Otherwise we are just on tenterhooks waiting for him to wake.

at Midgetm!! I used to be grossed out if I didn't shower daily - now I'm lucky if I see water every other day

Unbelievably, Baby Loopy fed at 7.30pm then not til 1.30am & then slep til 6.30am!! Is this a sign of things to come?!!

wooly i reckon you've got a good reason for the slow weight gain this week. I wouldn't do formula. It sounds like she's fine. WHO recommend getting your baby weighed monthly so don't sweat it.

angelico hope it's going well

squid definitely go and hang out with your SIL. If nothing else, I'd be delighted to have the company and someone to make a big fuss of DS1 while I can't.

ps mickey I just googled to find out how many litres of blood there are in the human body and You're sodding lucky to be alive!!! so glad it's going well now xx

Glad to know I'm not the only slatternly husssy...... If it sort of looks clean it is clean! And even if it doesn't, who's looking?? This majorly applies to clothes. Has stopped applying to bras due to mastitis... Most hilarious is cups and glasses. I used that glass for water?? Fine to use again or for milk or fibogel.. Tea mug? Well I don't take milk and it's only my mouth touched it.

DH is endlessly amused. I am (sorry was) a tidy house proud obsessive control freak and it has all went to pot!!

And you know what?? I kinda like it!! ( just don't tell anyone....shhh!)

Hey lovely ladies. Thanks for all your good wishes :) Home and all seems to have gone well, apparently there was quite a lot in there so got well scraped as well as having clot removed Two other girls in for same thing even though I hadn't really heard of it before. Had lovely anaesthetist who gets sick herself after GA so was v sympathetic and a) didn't give me morphine (which admittedly meant hurt quite a bit afterwards for an hour or so) and b) gave me lots of anti-nausea drugs. Result was... NO BOKING!!! :o :o :o And was able to feed the bean as soon as I got back to the ward so all was well - and she happily slept through the whole time I was away so no trauma there :)

Going to go have a nap I think, followed by a night with feet up in front of fire. Have a lovely evening whatever you are doing xo

Really glad to hear all went ok Angelico

I am having a mopey day. I feel a bit crap that I can't fit in my clothes properly. I don't want to weigh myself in case it's even more depressing. I've been running 3x week for a month now and I go out walking every day and I'm being careful what I'm eating and I'm breastfeeding. People say I look good, but my jeans don't fit and I am sad and I don't feel I can talk about it or people will shout at me.

I was overweight my whole life until I was 23... then I spent 5 years losing 3 stone, I kept it off very successfully once I had, but it was an extremely slow effort that I had to stick at diligently for many years, and I fear it might be the same thing all over again.

Sorry to those of you with real problems...

Angelico so pleased all went well. Keep those feet up and take it easy! Glad bean hardly realised u were gone!!

Squid don't u start being hard on self again....... Please ignore my early flippant comments about my weight loss, they were inappropriate for this forum and I should know better..... Jess is only what, 8 weeks? No way you should be fretting at this stage. Sounds like you getting back in. Shape rightly and correctly. You are eating well and exercising enough for several of us other lazy bitches. Tbh, I'm not thin and toned and svelte, I'm just a big tall skinny looking thing and everyone thinks im being ravaged by a hungry breast feeding baby and I'll end up pathetically underweight...... (should he not hav a bottle to fill him up? FUCK OFF!!)

So please, easy for me to say and I promise I am not being flippant, but do not be hard on yourself at this stage and the photos we saw of u a while back showed one very slim new mummy!!

YAY angelico! Glad it went well. Now you keep your feet up and relax, ok?

squid please don't beat yourself up. All of us who are first time mums are in the "what the hell happened to my body?!" camp. I put on over 4 stone during pregnancy (nearly 30kg) and I wasn't exactly a stick to start with!! I want to start running soon. I will be in my pregnancy clothes for the next 2-3 months at least I think!

Not sure how much running you did before, but I do find that weightloss for me when running is only after a couple of months and when I was running 7km+ 3-4 days a week. But that's just me! Your body is still getting back to its rhythm! When I am in NZ I am thinking of doing a baby boot camp or seeing a personal trainer (much cheaper than it is here!!).

Speaking of that, I can't believe I'm going to NZ on Thursday, holy shit. I'm starting packing tomorrow. Picking up DS' passport on Monday. Surely he has to be one of the youngest babies ever to fly longhaul -he'll only bf 4 weeks 4 days?!?!

squid also bear in mind that (only anecdotally I'm sure) a lot of women hold on to a bit of body fat (often in unusual places) whilst they're breastfeeding. I've spoken to loads of people who have only lost the last half stone or so when they've stopped feeding. Guess it's a protection mechanism to make sure you have enough fat for the baby or something. Seriously, go easy on yourself.