Dec 08 Mums - Onwards and bloody well upwards!

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How's this? Thought I'd just press on with it!

Happy Birthday to Dylan! So glad you got a nice chunk of sleep. Brilliant!

Well, I am not in London cos DD2's cough has gone Victorian sounding and she has a temp. Also, I banged a toe last night, am struggling to walk on it and it has gone black. Hmm. Let's hope it doesn't drop off!

Hello everyone! I've been lurking quite a bit but on the phone mostly, so no posting.

Happy Birthday to the Dec 08 LOs I've missed and also to some mummies.

Beans, hope you're OK.

Kayz, so glad that you got some sleep. It makes everything so much easier.

LadyT, Ouch on the toe. I hope you haven't broken it. And get better soon to your DD2. There are so many nasty bugs around at the moment, yuck. I love Inspector Montalbano but haven't seen the latest series. I must get it on Lovefilm. Have you read the books? I've put them on my Christmas list.

Jam Glad you had a good time at the wedding but how unlucky that you had to deal with vomit at such a time. I hope your DS recovered quickly.

I've got both DC at home today. Has anyone heard of fifth disease? I hadn't until today when I took DD to the GP. For anyone that hasn't, it's a bit like slap cheek, not serious for children, just a concern for unborn babies. So we are hiding away from the outside world and have cancelled the few friends that were coming over to celebrate DS's birthday on Friday (DS has the high temperature at the moment but is yet to come out in the rash that DD has). What a shame. He was ill on his birthday last year too .

We are moving! Still in Hampshire but to the north east of Southampton. DH has a new job and we are moving to a rented house on 27 December so we'll be in catchment to apply for school places by the 15 Jan deadline. Talk about last minute. We have found a school for DD and she has been to look round it and seems to like it. To those who have been struggling with schooling decisions, you have my sympathy. We've been to look at so many over the last few weeks, but I think we've found a good one.

There was lots more, but I can't remember what else, I really have such a bad memory these days.

Off to look at Pinterest for more crafting ideas to amuse DD. We have already made some lovely snowflakes today.

Yay ZJ for dh (did I say that already, I cna't remember even though I've just read the thread)

Beans glad you are ok with how things have panned out.

Gosh I am tired. Have read but cannot remember much at all.

Quiz is on Friday LadyT, I looove the village quiz.

Dd and ds2 are still/again full of snot and coughs. It is just lingering and not bloody well shifting. Dd is so hoarse and her glands in her neck are right up and she was up all bloody night, thankfully last night my parents were up so they took ds1 to his nativity and stayed home with the screaming ones and then they dealt with dd all night but ds2 was also up all night and the bits he wasn't up he was velcroed to me so goodness knows what I am going to do tonight as dh sleeps soundly in his hotel room with work .

Dd still got packed off to nursery this morning though, it was her nativity and she was spectacular. She sat and joined in a bit, flashed her pants lots, rubbed her eyes several times, yawned, did a few of the actions, beamed at the audiance, wiped her nose on the sleeve of her costume and inspected it and at one point that she found rather funny giggled and yelled out "that's funny!" at full volume in her lovely, husky crackly voice she has at the moment. Comedy gold.

ZJ - Good news about your DH! You must be so relieved.

Indith - I love a good nativity play. And it sounds like your DD enjoyed it. I was strangely moved at my DD's nativity when an angel came up the aisle of the church and delivered the baby Jesus into Mary's arms. Much better than giving birth! I would certainly have gone for that option, but then I guess it's reserved for the son of God.

I hope you ace the quiz and that your DC get well soon.

Hi ladies, gosh you've all been busy. I'm barely keeping up. Haven't been on as much because A) my niece is here & B) DS2 is about to start school and I'm panicking about him going to School and I want to spend more time & attention on him. As a result I think I'm annoying him. He spends the day asking when his brother will be home.

However, we too have a tumultuous relationship. If he & I were in a relationship we should have broken up ages ago. We are really rude & snappy with each other and fight A LOT! Definitely got the hormone thing happening here though as he is definitely angrier. But sadly his behaviour is a reflection of me. I think we have gotten into a pattern and he is learning his reactions from me.

Beans sorry you've had such a up & down time with this pregnancy thing. I once had a weird heavy & clotty period (well before the boys) and I've often wandered if it was a unknown pregnancy that I miscarried. The lunch with your sister sounded brilliant.

Lady that is nice about you & your stepmum. How was your mum about his death? Would you mum & stepmum ever be friends? Also how is your FIL you haven't talked about him for a while.

Aub, I like the separate schools idea. Our two are as different as your two so I can definitely see why you are sending them to separate schools. I think Ds1's school will be good for DS2 in fact even better than it is for Ds1. However, we did toy with idea of keeping him in the school he was in for pre-school, letting him just move up. However, he's never completely settled there and he is quite connected with Ds1's due to coming to pick up & drop offs and he will have ds1's onderbouw(reception) teacher who he also knows quite well so that will be good. We have warned he that he is a completely different child & she laughed and said they always are.

Just posted all that in case I lost it.

Hi Nolda nice to see you. The move sounds exciting, glad you can rent in timeto get schools sorted.

Kayz could you put a cot with the side down next to your bed? I know you have to be careful if there any gap between the mattresses but you can fill it with a sheet or duvet. Then she is next to you but not taking up bed space. That's what we did with DS2 as DH always worried he would roll onto him so it effected his sleep. Happy birthday to DS2's almost twin Dylan.

JJ have you made a decision on the school. How would you feel if she didn't get a place at the local school? Would you be happy or relieved?

Thank you for birthday wishes, we had a brilliant time, my niece loved it, we found a cute little amusement park which the boys loved & DH sorted out a perfect night out. He even managed to find a vegetarian tapas bar which played 90's indie music & had an entire drinks menu dedicated to gin & tonic! It was very funky. We then went on to find a bar that made a mean Mojito for ?5. Unfortunately we got pick pocketed for ?40 but it didn't ruin our night.

Oh & Rubes, I am going to LA in late Feb any chance you could be on the same flight? Are you doing the NYC thing with DH. My DH is flying there on the 29th but couldn't get on your airline.

Happy birthday to Dylan yesterday, Jordi today and Eddie tomorrow

Anyone else feel like they're drowning in a sea of cards and wrapping paper? My evenings are full of it, and I didn't think I'd even bought that much! One day I'll resurface and will be able to catch up with you all again

Happy birthday Jordi!!

DH is a pain in the backside. He's helping my step dad today and has taken the car keys. So I can't get the pram or the slings out of the car to take DS2 to nursery. Hoping my mum is free and can take him.

Thank you to my lovely secret Santa. The bracelet is beautiful. I love feathers and its perfect. Thank you

DS2 had his settling in session this morning at school. He was ok, but really nervous. The other kids were so cute, really took him under their wing. One boy has made it is mission to familiarise DS2 with the rules & general running of the class & has become him minder. So cute he will go for a half day by himself on Monday to see how he goes.

Sounds like it has gone well then vag :)

School. Wow. So grown up!

Oh shit I think DS has the pox!! He was moaning this morning about an itchy spot on his back - never thought anything of it. Off we went to his pre school nativity (where he made THE best Christmas Reindeer EVER!) and the they said they'd had several children call in sick with the pox. Came home and he has about half a dozen spots on his back, a few on his tummy and some round his bottom/willy! DD has never had it either so I suspect she will break out nicely in time for Christmas. Great.

Oh and I cried when he was dressed as a reindeer, I was so proud of him. He looked so far from the problem child they portray,sat so smartly with a grin from ear to ear...hooray for my little man

Belated birthday wishes for Dylan and Jordi. Vag sounds like things went well at school this morning. I still can't believe how big they are all getting

Oh no! With a bit of luck she will either get it now having been exposed along with him or she will give it the full incubation period and wait until after Christmas! I too sent ds1 into nursery with the pox. One scratchy looking mark in the morning that I didn't think anything of but covered by the time I picked him up. Ooops! Bet he made a fab reindeer.

DB was thinking of you & your sweet ds. I have noticed that dS2 is quite fine at home in the peace & quiet but if I put the radio on then start making noise making dinner andmaybe throw DH coming home & lots of chatter into the mix he starts getting grumpy and even violent has taken to hitting his brother if it's all too much

Aawwww Dieds that lovely. Not so lovely about the pox. Hope its a mild one.

VAG seriously school? Wowzers they are so grown up.

Ended up in A&E this morning with DS2. Raging horrendous temp which would not go away even with the magic of calpol and nurofen. At one point 40degrees pretty unresponsive and very shallow breathing. Quite scary. Obviously once we arrived he perked right up and the triage nurse wanted to know why I had taken him to A&E instead of GP. Honestly its out of hrs so you phone NHS direct they tell you to get to A&E so of course A&E is where you go. BUt hey apart from an even crapper than normal appetite he appears lots better this afternoon. I will not cancel his bday tea 2yrs in a row because of illness.

Ok I seem to have had a bit of a mind infarction there, I posted that without elaborating. My niece came home mid post to tell me the sad news that she had heard that their family dog died overnight. I must have just posted instead of writing the rest of the post.

Anyhoo, what I was trying to get at was, dS2 seems to find overestimating environments hard to cope with. His new class only has 18 kids & generally Montessori classrooms are pretty peaceful places (no idea how the teacher does it) but there are going to be times when it gets a bit chaotic, and I worry how he will get on. He is such a home body and loves routine and just being at home where he is used to everything (he also really doesn't like going on holidays). I wandered if this might be similar for DBboy? Maybe his nursery needs to keep things a bit structured for him. Or at least understand that this might make him kick off.

Overestimating!!! Bloody hell, should have been overstimulating! I'm sure an overestimating environment would get his back up too.

Jam all A&Es should have a room to take kids to where they don't see anyone they just get the hospital effect. This is the magic that suddenly makes kids better when they come to A&E. We used to see it all the time. The nurse was a bit mean, we had a lovely doctor who used to have a chat to the parents about how the kids had been at home, because he wanted to asses how they had been, not how they presented at that time. He was very lovely. Most times the kids were fine, but he knew parents knew the kids best & wouldnt come in for no reason.

Oh & DB sorry about the pox.

Hello Dec 08 ladies, I really hope you don't mind but I just wanted to pop over and wish your babies a collective Happy 4th Birthday!

It is lovely that you are all still chatting almost 5 years on, you were a really friendly antenatal group.

I have a December baby too, she will be 2 tomorrow

Merry Christmas
snowwombat

Vag That sounds so similar to DS. Pre school have even remarked about how much happier/calmer/friendly DS is on a Thursday, which is a day they noticeably less children in. When they are all in it can be a pretty chaotic place. Everyone running around, shouting, unintentionally knocking into each other etc. There is no formal structure. Its all learning through play and the children can pretty much choose what they want to do throughout the whole day. I actually think school will be better for DS, more structure, periods of quiet play/work etc. He has told his key worker he likes it better when its quieter.

At home he is very boisterous with DD and can be very loud, but that's an environment he is used to.

snowwombat HELLO! Lovely to 'see'you and congrats on DC2.

Jam That sounds pretty frightening about DS2, I think I would have done the same. I think the nurse was being a little sniffy to question why you had brought him in. DS would have been the same. If I ever have to take him to the Dr's he's like a limp puppy until we get there and then he's swinging from the light fittings!

Poor baby Jam.

My ds1 is another who likes things to be jsut so and doesn't do well with really busy, noisy situations. His school is perfect for him as it is very small. The nursery we chose for him was not structured as such but was very calm with lots of adult attention. Funny how different they all can be :)

Dd keeps giving birth! She is having thousands of twins.

BIG news in this house. Ds2 had a NAP. Imagine that! AND it was a WHOLE HOUR long. AND it was IN THE COT!

Oh but sorry LadyT I can almost guarantee we won't win the quiz tonight as one person is working so her dh is staying home with their dcs (we and another family have the local teens booked). Trouble is her dh is usually our best weapon, his general knowledge is excellent.

Hello snowwombat!
Watching The Snowman. Seems to be becoming a tradition every night! Loving it.
Poor little baby Deids. Not fun, the pox, but there's never a good time, so good to get it over with. DDs had it while Dad died and then over his cremation. Was hell on earth. But DD1 got it precisely 2 weeks after DD2 so it'll be post Xmas and just in time for New Year! Yucky.

I've got a very sore chest. Suspect horrid chest cough paying me a visit shortly. Bugger