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November 2012 - babies are here at last

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StuntNun · 04/10/2012 12:42

This is the post-natal club for graduates of the November 2012 intake.

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rowingdowntheriver · 23/10/2012 23:20

Congratulations yw and ywdh!

My baby was born by ELCS at 9.13am on Monday and he is doing well. Seems permanently hungry but I guess that is to be expected?!

I'm going to try to get some sleep now but suppose I'll be back online in a couple of hours!

Thechick · 23/10/2012 23:31

We should get a list going of birth dates of our little ones, the same as the due dates we had.

MissMummy1 · 23/10/2012 23:41

Congrats rowing ! Name? Weight? Glad he'a doing well and hope you're recovering quickly too!

Congrats MrYW on being able to find the right place from my muddled up message!

rowingdowntheriver · 24/10/2012 02:12

Thanks missmummy, his name is Louis Albert Winston and he weighs 7lb 4oz. Seems so tiny after DS1 who was 10lb 3oz.

The little guy literally doesn't want to stop feeding - he'll be on me for an hour then cry the minute I try putting him in his Moses basket. Oh joy!

GTbaby · 24/10/2012 05:10

Just did 4am feed. Catching up on ante thread, which is hard work! Very tiered. But can't sleep.

VQ I have same issue of large boobs. So have to hold on. Laying on my side doesn't seem like a solution for me as I think my nipples r in the wrong place lol Blush.

I'm using a pillow under baby n another under my elbow so that holding boob is more comfy.

Thechick · 24/10/2012 10:12

Had our first night at home. LO does not like the Moses basket. He was such a sound sleeper at the hospital but sleeps really restlessly at home. Any tips??

rowingdowntheriver · 24/10/2012 11:46

Hi chick, we had the same problem here! For us I think it is either one of two things - either the little one is more recovered from the birth and ready to start feeding much more regularly than he did in hospital (it is quite common for babies to sleep amazingly for the first night or two after they are born) or, that the Moses basket is too cold for him as it was boiling in the postnatal ward. I'm thinking of bringing a hot water bottle to bed tonight and using it to warm the basket slight,y before putting him in it.

GTbaby · 24/10/2012 15:51

Just called LLL help line. Just some general Qs about expressing. N I start crying Sad. Breast feeding is so hard. But I know it will b worth it. But emotionally draining.
Must keep trying. N doing more research for tips. She gave me a good tip. If baby is sleepy give a little expressed milk first to wake him up then put him on boob.

daisychain76 · 24/10/2012 20:19

Aw congrats Rowing and thechick its lovely to hear your little boy is home. Do you feel you have missed out on the last few weeks of being pregnant?? I sort of feel a bit cheated by missing them, although l am so glad to be cuddling my LO. I use the trick with the hotwater bottle Rowing suggests and find it really helps. I. also have a muslim square under his head with my smell on it

gt l think you are doing so well persevering. and giving your LO an amazing start. lf he is getting sleepy winding him, changing his nappy, washing his face or blowing gently on his face and stroking his cheek can all help. I am changing nappies twice to get him feeding on both sides at the mo!

TheDetective · 24/10/2012 20:47

I find that babies sleep better with some noise.

Try some white noise.

I'm not telling you how I know this Grin

rowingdowntheriver · 25/10/2012 04:07

Ah we'll, very little improvement on sleeping tonight! I can barely never wake DS2 up during the day yet the moment I get the Moses basket upstairs at around 11pm, that is it, he is awake for the night!

Bloody hell though, this breast feeding is really hurting. Especially on the right hand boob. Usually after the first 10 or so sucks the pain eases off but for those sucks I am sat mouthing 'fuck fuck fuck fuck'. It really hurts.

I'm using lanisoh cream and the midwife checked the latch yesterday and thinks it looks ok so maybe I'm just going to have to bear it? God I hope not. I've got some nipple shields so I might have to give them a go for a bit although didn't want to as think using them will affect my milk supply.

Evilwater · 25/10/2012 04:30

Well we have been kicked out the bedroom for making to much noise again, as my DS won't sleep!
DP has work soon, his answer to the problem, feed him and keep feeding him, but it's not working.

Cat feed, nowacuppa for me.
Evil

NervousAt20 · 25/10/2012 06:16

chick wow that sounds like a very stressful labour for you, I'm glad you don't remember the pain now. Wohooo and congratulations on going home I'm sure you can't wait Grin

Congratulations yellow glad you and LO are both doing well an you got to birth on the island

Congratulations rowing Louis is a very nice name

There are alot of babies arriving [hgrin]

rowing we had that exact same problem the first couple of nights home, babyN would sleep amazing in the day but as soon as night came she would not settle, not happy in her Moses basket, wouldn't sleep she just wanted to be held but then if your too still she would cry to be rocked. I'm not sure what changed but by night 3 at home touchwood we've had success at nighttime sleeping and she has been settling great in her Moses basket. I have the pain with the first 5 sucks or so and my HV said it was my milk being let down, apparently

I haven't been on the thread for a few days its just a madness. I haven't managed to peep into the other one in a few days either so imagine ill find a new thread [hgrin]

Well baby is back in bed and im praying for a few more hours sleep

PetiteRaleuse · 25/10/2012 07:07

Mine is a day sleeper and a night waker too... Am going to give it a few days and start on trying, little by little, to correct it.

Dixiebell · 25/10/2012 07:26

rowing, I remember the searing pain of the first few sucks, people say if you're doing it right it shouldn't hurt but I was exactly like you. But found it stopped after the first few weeks, I suppose nipples harden or whatever, and then bf for 15 months with no probs, keep using the Lansinoh!

Evilwater · 25/10/2012 07:49

Petite-how do you correct it?

Evil

Thechick · 25/10/2012 09:28

I'm in exactly the same boat with the night time. LO sleeps really well during the day but at night he just won't settle.

Daisy I did feel like I'd missed out. I would have liked to have said goodbye to work properly and finish my handover. I would have liked to have finished sorting the house and buying all the stuff before he got here and it would have been nice to have had a little bit of relaxing time before the craziness started but I wouldn't change anything for the world, he's such a precious little boy.

I can't get enough of chocolate. It's crazy!! I was so good during the pregnancy but am being really bad now. Does anyone know if expressing burns as many calories as bf?

rowingdowntheriver · 25/10/2012 09:46

Mmm, surprise surprise he is fast asleep now! I'm going to try waking him every 2 or 3 hours during the day to feed so that he isn't as hungry at night and is hopefully a little bit more tired then too. Hopefully it'll be as you say nervous and he corrects himself soon anyway.

dixie, it is good to hear that the breastfeeding pain should go away although a couple of weeks with this pain at about say 15 feeds a day = a lot of pain that I don't want to have to go through!

Evilwater · 25/10/2012 10:27

The chick - as I'm aware expressing burns the same calories.

After three weeks, my DS is still up all night.
How much more can this kid eat? Feed at 2,4,6,8 and now 10. I'd love some sleep please, or a shower.

How come they make that, innocent face. Grr..
And the HV is arriving soon, and I'm not dressed!
Evil

PetiteRaleuse · 25/10/2012 11:26

Evil - with DD1 we were very lucky, and hope to be the same this time round. The theory : We just very gently, taking baby steps, tried to reinforce the difference between day and night. Night time feeds were done with a tiny night lighht, no talking or stimulation. During the day feeds were made into awake times with songs and noise and trips to the window.

When DD1 woke up during the night she would wait for her feed a little longer each time (I'm talking minutes, not hours, and in my arms, not being left to cry) and gradually the night time waking became a regular, short feed every three, four, then five hours, and straight back to sleep afterwards.

It took ten weeks to have her sleeping regularly through six hours at night, and I considered her to be sleeping through when she did six nights out of seven with a six or seven hour stretch of sleep.

I have to say though agan we were lucky, and I can only hope this time round is as trouble free. I'm not going to start trying to get her to adapt though until she is a couple of weeks old and seems to be putting weight on, jaundice gone etc. I'm mix feeding, like I did last time and since Tuesday expressed into bottles for the breastmilk feeds. It worked for me last time (until I had to stop breastfeeding completely for other reasons) and paeds advised it anyway this time round.

I'll let you know if what worked last time works this time over the next few months.... Worth trying making night feeds into a non event anyway as a start :)

PetiteRaleuse · 25/10/2012 11:29

Obviously we did more than trips to the window during the day feeds, but as they tend to fall asleep during walks and in the car I'm not counting trips out.

GTbaby · 25/10/2012 14:11

petit will b taking those tips on board.

I'm finding little one goes straight to sleep during day. But night will just fight with his blanket kicking n fighting to get it off. Even with same blanket used during day wrapped in same style.

He is feeding ATM. Although I think he is just sucking as I hear no swollowing. Hmmm. He has been on the boob almost an hour now. Think it's time to top with formula. I think if it wasn't for the jaundice I'd prob wouldn't turn to formula top ups.

PetiteRaleuse · 25/10/2012 14:55

Maybe get some advice before topping up gt you need to be happy with any choice you make. If you really want to bf exclusively then someone should be able to help you get there. I have no strong opinion euther way which is why I suit myself. I work on the basis that anything I can provide is brilliant but ff is a great alternative.

PetiteRaleuse · 25/10/2012 14:58

Both my dds have had tongue tie - didn't affect their latch but I believe it can. They both had it fixed anyway - has your LO been checked for that gt ?

GTbaby · 25/10/2012 18:55

Originally I wanted to feed just on breast. But now finding it so hard think ff is just easier. But feel bad for thinking that was Sad.

I think I'd b happy with mixing ff n bf. however he is not full after bf. he always wants more. Only time he hasn't wanted more was Monday when mw came for visit n helped me. But doesn't feel like I'm doing anything different. Also haven't managed to express much Sad only about 10 ml for two tries on both boobs. Feel like my boobs have dried up n I have no more milk.

Have HV coming tomorrow. It's a guy Blush. I'll ask him if there r any local support groups.