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Oh no, Biscuits, that sounds scary!

Eeek Biscuits Brooking for DS1. Has his temp come down yet? I think if DS's were that high I'd give Nurofen as well to bring it down to a more manageable level. Maybe get him up and check his layers aren't making him too warm also? Light pj's with a light quilt only, no vest or blankets etc? Really hope he's ok.

Brave of you to venture into Blackhole Blackpool Dream. Did you see that programme on tv the other week where all those teens were taking "Bubble"? I've not been for years, but I remember it being grim. Kids love it there though don't they

at DD trying to gnaw the cats Musical

FWIW Biscuits I panic majorly if DS even has a temp of 38 and freak out worrying about seizures. But I'm sure I read on here that it's not the high temp that causes it, it's if the temp is brought down too rapidly. Of course that could be wrong, but it might be something you could check. Or someone else may know about ie Dream is she's still up

His temp is down to 39 ish which is a bit better. I haven't got any nurofen Scarlet otherwise I might well have given it. In fact as I went to give him the calpol I could see we only had the dregs at the end of a bottle . I blame DH for this as he normally seems to actually give the calpol so just typical that he wouldn't process that there's hardly any left. I think we will be having an excursion to acquire some tomorrow! Might lay in some nurofen too just for this sort of emergency. Ds2 helpfully decided to wake up while I was waiting so I fed him, which is another job off my overnight to do list.

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Apologies. Where were we?

Ah yes. I've checked his layers too and I think they're ok. He does rather like to be snuggled under his duvet though.

I think I'll just check him every time if I wake, or am woken

Oh and Too I have no inspiration for finger foods - I'm stuck at 'toast' . Like the idea of omelette etc. and salad chunks. I tried chunks of banana this morning but he kept squishing it. I don't think he'd be able to hold a hit as big round as a banana but will have to try that next time to make it more robust.

Right, better sleep while everyone else is.

Am so worried about my baby though . I have no idea what it is as he just sea to have a random temp

Actually Biscuits (sorry to go on at you) but I'm sure if a temp is over 39 you're advised to get them checked out, or at least call OOH's and see if they think you should take him down. I remember them saying to me that if it's over 40 it tends to be either Tonsillitus or a urinary infection that needs anti-biotics.

You sound like you're coping really well Biscuits. Is there a 24 hour supermarket near you where one of you can nip out and get some more Calpol and Nurofen now? Sorry if I'm sounding OTT, you know what I'm like. I just know that temps can go up again very quickly if they don't have enough meds in them. Can you not wake your DH to see what he thinks? Or is he useless like mine and lets you make all the decisions regardless?

I've found some calpol sachets (which are just in date!) so can use those. Am still worried about him though.

Have just made DH get out of bed to help me with ds2 though who won't / can't sleep. I think it is his teeth? Maybe? Who knows? Maybe I want it to be his teeth so I can justify calpol iyswim? I think it is his teeth though. Anyway I made DH get up to review my decision and then to help me get calpol out of a sachet into a syringe . So I'm now feeding him again to try to get him to sleep. I am taking vast steps backwards with this one. Other than that I'm going to set my alarm every 30 minutes hour to check on ds1.

Gosh I sound completely over the top don't I. It's just he can't have any more calpol now for a few hours so if his temp goes up again I'll be going to the 24 hr supermarket for nurofen.....

My normal rule of thumb is that at a temp of 38 I would consider calpol but not always give it as I think the temp is there for a reason and is trying to kill the bug or whatever. But I would of course monitor it. If the temp goes above 39 I would normally give calpol and to be honest if it went above 40 I would normally consider taking him to the docs. But because it was only above 40 before he'd had calpol I thought I'd better try that first and it's now hovering in the 39.x region.

Sorry for banging on about my poorly boys

biscuits hope DS1 is feeling better and his temp is more manageable.

My DS1 was sick a couple of times yesterday and DS2 has been up with the teeth I think since 4. I gave up trying to put him back at 6.

Right finger foods. I do:
Toad in the hole, chicken pie with big bits of chicken, chicken and apple balls from AK, fish fingers, waffles, cheese on toast, fishcakes, pitta bread filled with tuna mayor, egg mayo or pesto, cheese on toast, chicken goujons, toasted cheese sandwichs, tortilla wraps, arachini (basically fried risotto), beefburgers, erm need to check The List to see what else I do.

Rightly or wrongly I'm not going too mental about salt content in preprepared food like sausages. I figure DS2 consumes so little that it is pointless to worry about it, right? And I don't add salt to any of our food.

DH came home with some sausages - high pork content chipolatas, and I did wonder about salt. They said they had salt substitute - wtf is that and can babies eat it? Mind you, even though I didn't add any salt M's omelette yesterday did taste very salty - maybe it was the butter I fried it in. But yes, M consumes so little actual food that salt can't really be a problem at this stage. I like those ideas, Hawthers - will look up the apple and chicken balls in my AK book. Tonight I'm making roast beef, so M can try some of that.

All these poorly babies! Brooking hard for your DC, Biscuits, Hawthers and Scarlet. Did your DS1's temp come down, Biccies?

How is DS1 this morning Biscuits?

Sorry to hear your DS1 has been unwell too Hawthers I like all your cheese on toasts and then the toasted cheese sandwich variation

Oh and meatloaf and spinach and cheese muffins from the blw cookbook

Ds1 down to 'only' 38 this morning. Have a docs appt for 4:15 and he's currently lying in my bed watching tv while I feed ds2. Going to venture out on a mission to procure calpol and calprofen this morning

A bit worried about ds2 and his eating. He hasn't put on any weight AGAIN when I went to the clinic. He seems to ternate so every other fortnight he doesn't gain anything. But he's definitely slipping down the centiles. The HV says I should be concentrating on getting his solid volume up and making sure it's not too much milk iyswim but I'm feeding him more and more at night - perhaps because he doesn't get enough calories in the day. But I don't know how to get more into him? He doesn't seem to like eating too much stuff off a spoon but if he does finger foods very little goes in. What to do?

I was supposed to be going on a school mum's night out in our village tonight. Technically it's the school mums and I'm only a pre school mum but apparently a lot of them have one in the pre school too so I might go. Nervous though. DH said yesterday 'oh I bet you're looking forward to your night out?' Errrr, not really looking forward to it exactly as I've never met most of them before! And the mum I do know the best isn't going because she's preggo and tired! Any tips?

biscuits can you concentrate on high protein food for ds2? Eggs, creamy stuff, pasta for carbs etc? That might help put the weight on. I do hope ds1 is feeling a little better. FWIW when my ds's temp goes above 39.5 he tends to start hallucinating, it scared me thoroughly shitless the first time he did it as he twitches as he does it. He sees monsters coming floating in the corners of his bedroom and stuff, very frightening. I'm now able to tell when he's getting near to doing that so we can medicate before it happens. I always make sure we have some type of meds in the house now. Random temps are horrid though, in a way you almost want there to be a bug/ cold of some kind so you know what caused it!
Bloody hell dream well done for getting to bpool! (no idea how close you actually are to it though). And yes, its tacky as you like, you try being there on christmas day (dp's parents live about 5 miles outside bpool) its the most depressing place on earth. They do put on a good fireworks competition week once a year though. Brooking for all the colds to vanish soon and for lots of sleep to commence.
Enjoy your kindle scarlet
I've got to pop into town today to buy a huge amount of presents for small children. We have parties every weekend for the next 5 weeks! My poor bank account!

Don't drink too much and make a tit of yourself? It will be fine, I bet there'll be a few who don't know many others, just smile and be friendly.

Which centile is DS2 on now Biscuits? Not sure what the answer is if he won't eat anything from a spoon.
Is DS1 showing any symptoms of anything? Whenever my DS has had a temp it's either been Tonsillitus or a viral infection with runny nose, sore throat, cough type symptoms. Weirdly he didn't get a fever this time, most unlike him.

Re your night out. Just go with the flow, I'm sure you'll get chatting and have a lovely time. If not and they end up being a cliquey bunch just make your excuses and leave. I'm sure that won't be the case though.

DS has perked up no end today and has even been told off a couple of times His nose is like a running tap though.

Ds2 still above 50th centile so not really a prob yet, just more that he's not tracking where he was (between the 75th and 91st). The contrary little monkey managed to eat loads of porridge off a spoon this morning and some banana as a finer food and then some of the smaller lumps of banana off the spoon too.

No symptoms from DS1 yet either. He seems perjurer today but we've been taking it v easy. Am hoping he might try a little nap after lunch and then we'll go to the docs and see what they say. He still feels a little warm but not too bad and he hasn't had any calpol today. I have just acquired calprofen too through

Hope everyone else is ok xx

Finger food, not finer.

hello, sorry for disappearing again.

brooking lots for all these poorly boys :(

DH a bit better, but this bug has caused a really bad flare up of his bowel condition so he's still v poorly feeling.

It's left both of us feeling a bit wiped out after a busy time with DS1's birthday too.

DS2 seems fine, probably teething a bit. managed to not cry all through baby massage today, even the tummy time bit.

DS1 ok, wish i knew how to get him to tell us when he needs the toilet though. any tips Brookers? he can hold it quite a while, but unless we remind him loads! he does a bit of wee in his pants. normally while shouting "there's nothing wrong mummy" or "i don't need anything" he appears to be just too darn busy to stop.

biscuits can DS2 really have too much milk and not enough solids at his age? i thought they were still meant to get most calories from milk for a good while. from what I've read on here babies seem a bit random in how they take to food, some aren't bothered and some guzzle it down!

I thought that too Jaggy about the milk so I had been erring on the side of trying to make sure he got his formula in the day. It's perhaps a double whammy of it being hard to get enough solids in, and then only having 3-4oz max of formula mid morning and mid afternoon. Still bf morning and night (and overnight - grrr). I'm sure he'll catch up eventually.

Ninja makes a good point about the food he's been getting - it's still been mainly fruit and veg so am going to try a bit more protein type things. I haven't actually given him meat or anything yet. Or pasta.

Hope DH is better soon Jaggy. Is there anything he can take for the bowel thing? Or do?

Oh by the way ds1 temp down to 37.1 (calprofen must be awesome, he hasn't even taken any, just having it in the house must have made the difference ). i'm still going to take him to the docs to get him checked. I've seen it before where the temp comes down and then goes up again at night so will keep my fingers crossed it doesn't do that.

Right both boys asleep so I'd better do this ironing (although I really want to go to sleep!)

jaggy I still remind ds1 four months after doing the whole thing. He does say if he needs to go but we make sure he goes when he gets up, when he gets back from preschool, before we go out, before bed, if he hasn't been for a while.... Figure it will just stay like that for a while until he gradually gets better at doing it on his own.

biscuits how long have you been weaning? I know you were worried about choking but f hasn't choked more than once or twice. In fact DS1 has choked more in the last three months than DS2. Am a reluctant blw but its not so bad really and I found as f was a spoon refuser I couldn't really see any other option. Oh and I've got to go to a mum social evening for DS1's new preschool next week - dreading it!

biscuits he's reluctant to go to the doc about it as he thinks they'll want to put him on steroids and he's had bad side effects before. he wants to see if taking the antibiotics for the bug will calm things down first.

so you reckon if we remind DS1 about 1000000 times a day he'll eventually get the idea

DS2 has turned back into a poo machine, even the odd midnight or 2am one a
aah!

I wish DD was a poo machine. She still only goes twice a week and complains all day on poo day leading up to the explosion.

Hope your DH gets better soon Jaggy. Is it Crohns that he has?

tis ulcerative colitis, so sort of similar.

maybe if we got them to have a chat, they could agree a sensible compromise like 2 poos a day or something.