August 2012 - sunny (ha!) summer babies

[ImissMiniPop]

they're starting to arrive, so here's our 'Due in August' post natal thread. To talk poo, pee, burping and everything else, too...

Here's link to antd-natal thread for those we'll be waiting for www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1511603-Due-in-August-Thread-Part-6

Have borrowed Needles list, which I'll start here, please feel free to add your details to it. I'm rubbish at list keeping, and hopefully Needles will be along to keep it updated :o

BIRTHS
tigger8 (?) DC? due 27/7/12, GIRL born 11/7/12
missjemima (?) DC2 BOY due 3/8/12, born 10/7/12
PoppySeed34 (34) DC1 BOY due 4/8/12, born 28/5/12

Signet, I've just discovered the revelation that is giving LO the dummy after she has fed loads and is starting to fuss. Normally at this time of night I have burning nipples, a dead arm and am in a right mood but tonight I am sitting back with a glass of milk and a mini roll, admiring my sleeping baby settled down in the car seat. I was a bit freaked out givin her a dummy at first (negative associations of dummies being stuffed in toddlers' mouths to shut them up) and it freaked me out seeing her with it in but, wow, it really works. She wouldn't take it when already in a screaming fit so I fed her one more time and gave her the dummy when she was still in the sleepy state. She soon fell asleep and has been calm ever since. This is going to revolutionise my life! I just hope it wasn't a one-off!

Good tip also on putting LO down in their cot when they are properly screaming. She has been really unsettled today. If it continues tomorrow
I'll try it and see if it helps. It's also probably a good idea to get her used to being put down when still awake. We only put her in her bed when she is asleep at mo and i don't think that's healthy (last night she was wide awake from 3 to 5am and, consequently so was I!)

I have renewed respect for all you mums with refluxy/colicky babies today. Theo woke up screaming at 6am (had been fed at 4), he was inconsolable and really high pitched - he never ever does this, he just cries for a few seconds to let us know he wants something then waits for a bit to see if we get the message and repeat. Not this morning, screamed for an hour straight. He had a sore belly and nothing (cuddle/feed/massage) helped till eventually he let out an enormous burp and immediately fell asleep! It was awful and that was only an hour, so if you are the mum of a screamer then hats off to you and please feel free to moan on here if you need to... Following his screaming fit he has literally slept all day long, waking only very briefly for feeds.

Sandy never used to be a screamer infacol he barely cried at all in the first month then the demon wind came grrr!

The MN Edinburgh meet was yesterday it was great! There is going to be another in Edinburgh on the 25th. Also still meeting next Wednesday in Glasgow at nct bumps and babies. And some on the fb page are arranging a London meet and I think a central England meet... Not sure where though. So if you want to meet then let me know and I'll get frilly to get you added to the secret fb group! Even if you don't want to meet still come on the fb page it's good :)

Our feeding problems are resolving gradually which is good. Have found in the evening he definitley needs a few minutes crying time. I think he gets all pent up holding it together all day and needs to let it out. After he always feeds well or falls asleep so getting used to letting him cry for a little bit which feels so wrong!

Hope you are all well! Hoping to report that things are finally getting more easy still in the next few weeks...

I'd like to join the FB group, have PM'd Frillya while back but don't think she's been on MN much.

I'll message her on fb nightfall :)

Hope everyone is doing well not posted for ages!

Been struggling with v painful feeding since birth nearly nine weeks ago! Finally this week diagnosed with tongue tie and had it cut! Now trying to work out how you get a baby to use there tongue!

London meet up sounds good how do I join Facebook.

Good luck ishop :) how did you get on.?

I can honestly say that the crying baby stuff does get better, we had our first restaurant lunch today with Minipop sat in his pushchair - awake - not crying - just drooling & trying to get both hands into his mouth

nightfall we had a four hour screaming session once!!

mcbaby send frilly a message. London meet up is on 29th October 12pm somewhere near London bridge.

Went to look around a nursery today, didn't know what questions I should be asking .

Have to register now for a place in May!!

Hi all, really good to hear that things are a little more settled for lots of people. Anyone else read 'the baby whisperer solves your problems'? I'm finding myself half irritated by her smug, condescending tone and half worried that my LO is in no daytime routine yet and falls asleep after every feed, making it hard to fl the feed-activity-sleep plan she recommends. Argh!

We have tried to put in am evening routine and bedtime though, but finding that LO is struggling to get/stay asleep until I go up to bed (she's in cot next to bed) after which she generally sleeps ok ish. Any tips v welcome!

G xx ps she's nearly 8 weeks now

We've not mastered the feed - awake bit either (have jsut read BabyWise, which is a similar routine to EASY). To be honest though, sometimes MiniPop is awake after a feed and sometimes he isn't, that's just the way it goes.

Hey all

Watch this space but sandy is over 10 weeks old now and I think the troublesome newborn days are behind us and perhaps all this 3 months things get easier thing is true....!??

For anyone wanting on the Facebook group pm me and I will add you.

Anyone else's baby now so aware of light and dark that they only sleep properly at night? Sandy cat naps in the day for max 1 hour then reawakens like there is too much exciting stuff for him to miss to sleep that long! Luckily the days are drawing in hehe. He is in bed now has been for last 2 hours which means he may think its middle of the night and wake up at 4am like the last time we put him down this early. But you never know he might sleep later...here's hoping!

Also for wind I can report that he seems to be getting it out himself better now. Still religiously massaging him and cycling legs but he is pooing regularly (2 small ones a day usually) farting like mad in his sleep and burping as soon as you sit him up and sometimes rolling about lying down. Still got painful trapped wind and pushes a lot but its getting better and I think as he is better at removing it he will no longer need to push as much!

Feeling quite emotional as I feel we are moving further away from the newborn phase every minute of the day at the moment... He is totally growing up and no longer a sleepy little floppy baby but a wriggling, strong and totally aware boy. He has conversations, joins in with things like dinner and watches tv... And it seems to have happened all of a sudden. Crazy.

Ahh, that's lovely to read Ham

MiniPop is 10 weeks corrected age today, so it's great to hear what he's up too (and maybe what he should be up too )

Sounding good ham :)

Its funny as I enjoyed DD as a newborn but at the same time was probably subconsciously wishing time away so it would be easier iyswim. Now they're older and you see how much they've grown already, I miss how super small she was! Lots more things like smiles to enjoy now :)

Interesting about bedtime - I posted earlier about having to put LO down really early, 6.30 as well tonight as she gets over tired otherwise. Was worried it was too early but seems ok; been waking 2 or 3 times in the night so will take that!

Really regretting my nipple piercing when my left boob squirts milk in several different holes Luckily she latches on well to this boob and covers them all!

Having some lovely screaming matches. If I didn't know better I would say its paddy. Think lo is going to take after me.

Lo bit sniffly at the moment. Making me even more anxious through the night.

Finally in some 0/3 clothes. Most of the newborn clothes are too small now

lois last night sandy slept 6-9 on his own in bed, then I fed him and we went to sleep and we all slept til 6. Fed a few times (can't remember how often as cosleeping) all dream feeds except one where he was awake for 15 mins having a nappy change for a poo and belly massage from DH for wind. Pretty good going I think a they will eventually go to bed that early it's not a problem to start now plus he wasnt up for hours in the night yay. Still working towards our ideal 4,4,4 situation (sandy sleeps 6-10, then all sleep 10-2, 2-6) but he is on a growth spurt so feeding more I don't mind though. I also feel totally the same about wishing the bad stuff over but also missing the newborn bit. Looked at a wee vest he had on at first which has a tag that says "mini dept" on it. I used to sit with my hand on his belly while he fed and say to DH "look he came from the mini dept!" But now he comes from the porker dept!

Sandys grandad put down the carpet in his nursery on Friday so yesterday and today DH and I have been working on consolidating all our junk into one "study corner" as this room still has to have a desk in it (small flat so sandy shares his room with our study hehe) so we can make the rest of the room his. Planning on painting his wardrobe which is at my mums this week and then getting it all sorted. Will put up pics when complete!

Look fwd to the pics ham and well done on lunch out poppy!

Have got dd registered for a montessori nursery (- she was at one before we moved). I don't think the motessori / nursery distinction makes such a difference pre 18 months but after that they start to teach through play so a slightly different structures. Questions I had for nurseries were usually around security - nappy change units in open so no-one is alone with baby etc in that way, if men do nappy changes (personal preference), routines - sleeping and eating and then late/early drop offs oh and also if they take childcare vouchers so you can do tax savingy stuff

First interview I've had in a few years so hard to tell how it went at the time I thought it was ok, after I kept playing back some of my responses and thinking what an idiot(!) ...

Hey all mostly posting on fb group now. But checked in to see what everyone is up to. As for routines I let ds1 naturally fall into his own routine so will do the same with jacob. Had a good weekend. Went to see the fireworks but had to leave half way through as ds1 was tired and requested to go home bless. Jacob slept the whole time! Cooked a roast yesterday for just me and dh as we normally go to mum and dad's but they had to take my grandad to hosptial as he is having his heart bypass today fingers crossed it goes ok as its life and death really. Was tasty tho the roast that is. Making a pig of myself as bf is making me hungry tho should prob try to eat less to shift some weight!

Hello Ladies.

I haven't been on here for ages - hope you're all well.

That's dd2 six weeks old today, can't believe it! :-)

She's normally a pretty good wee sleeper, but she's got a touch of the cold and didn't sleep a wink last night. We could hear that 'crickle' noise whilst she was lying down, which wasn't for long as she couldn't settle. Has anyone elses lo had the cold and is there actually anything you can give a six week old?

Also, I'd like her to take a dummy/soother. I've got a couple of avent ones, but she's not interested. She'd rather use me as a human dummy even when she's drained me dry. The avent ones we have are 'classic' or standard teat, I wondered if the orthodontic shaped ones would be any better? My son and older daughter both found their thumbs around six weeks and it was a nightmare weaning them off. My daughter is 7 years old and has one thumb thinner than the other due to all the baby/toddler thumb sucking years. I'd rather avoid this if we could.

Lastly, have seen some of you mention the MN facebook group. Could I join and if so, could someone give me ther details please?

Speak soon.

Hi poppysnoss if you pm me with your Facebook details ill add you

Re the dummies I have no experience but have heard the mam ones recommended..I have bought some but not started yet.. Xx

I use mam ones on my lo. Be warned the only ones I can find have slogans on them. I got the blue boy ones as the girls one said supermodel ?!?!? On them. Lo likes it but I only give her it when she is really unsettled.

We found mam were the ortho ones that are still the fullest shape which sandy liked best.

We are at 11 weeks (tomorrow) and things are really good finally. He has suddenly become a content happy baby again somewhere around the start of week 10 and since has been gurgling, chatting and playing, happy whenever awake, barely cries and sleeps well. Have a routine too yay which is...

6am gets up with dad I get shower and breakfast
6.30 feed him in living room and he falls asleep on me, I either watch tv with him sleeping or transfer to cot.
8.00 wakes up
Rest of the day not so structured but involves awake time then a feed then he naps for about an hour in the cot, self settling with dummy
5pm play time with dad
6pm bedtime, gets pjs on and changed, take him to our bed dim lights, feeds and falls asleep and I leave him
7-9/10 he sleeps alone in bedroom
9/10 we go to bed with him where I feed him
10-6 sleep with numerous dream feeds

So hope this brings positivity to any still in the rough bit I never thought he would be like this but he is managing his wind better now and so much happier at a week off three months, I think the three month stage is indeed magical!!

How is everyone else? Any recent milestones?

What's this secret fb group? I'd it open for everyone? Or is it for meets?

Just been to my first babygroup Baby Sensory, was really nervous but forced myself to go anyway and it was great. Have to wait for a place now as I only got to go in today as someone didnt turn up, so hopefully will hear back soon, feeling so fed up at times. I go out everyday but all my friends are working or at uni so feel all alone wish I was closer to meet ups ham :(
Got Noahs jabs tomorrow and im really nervous about that now, I hate needles but going to be brave and feed him (if I can) while he has them as it's supposed to help with the pain :( How has anyone else gone on with LO's jabs have they been okay afterwards?, with ds1 he was fine for a while after then in the evening v upset and hard to settle.
Hope your all well x

Big hugs 3bears also having a rough time here... DH is away for work and as we're in a new area I don't really have any friends nearby who are free during the day. Would love to go to baby groups etc but such a 'mare getting out teh house with two of them(!)

Little man seems to have thrown his routine(ish) out the window and is waking up every two - three hours at night and awake much earlier in the morning leaving me exhausted... and ratty. DD also being naughty, finding it hilarious when I tell her off for taking rubbish out the bin, etc etc

Re the FB group - does everyone join with your RL profile or do you have a special MN FB profile?

Hi Poppysnoss, DS has had a cold too. DH found some stuff in Boots called Snufflebabe which really helped him - it's a mild form of Vicks, all natural ingredients, and you put a little bit on their chests to help them breathe. I also upped the feeding to keep him hydrated - was feeding every 2 hours rather than every 3, but I'm BF, so don't know how it would work with FF.

Our routine is similar to yours now Ham - but DS goes down at 7pm in his own room. Last week he went down to one night feed - on Saturday night and Monday night he went from 7pm-4am without feeding!!! This has been a bit disrupted by his cold, but I'm hoping to get back into that this week.

I've found sleep times the hardest - DS does 3 hour feeds with no trouble, but often doesn't nap for more than 45 minutes. When he gets miserable, I put him in his cot (in his grobag) with a dummy, turn the lights out and put the nursery rhyme music on. He generally settles, but sometimes can need a little bit more help. He then mostly sleeps for 30-45 minutes. Sometimes I can get him to go back to sleep, but not usually. I'd love for him to be able to sleep a bit longer.

Glad you enjoyed baby sensory 3 bears - we're booked in for one starting next month. We did baby massage today - DS really liked it for about 20 minutes and then all the babies got grumpy, so he joined in! Never mind!

Hi all, for those who want to join the fb group private message me with your face book details and i can add you.
Ishop..we all have our normal fb profiles and previously only frilly could add us but she changed it, it's a private group so nobody else sees..and is much more active than the mn thread..think because each question or comment has its own thread so it's easy to see responses..xx