August 2012 - sunny (ha!) summer babies

[ImissMiniPop]

they're starting to arrive, so here's our 'Due in August' post natal thread. To talk poo, pee, burping and everything else, too...

Here's link to antd-natal thread for those we'll be waiting for www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1511603-Due-in-August-Thread-Part-6

Have borrowed Needles list, which I'll start here, please feel free to add your details to it. I'm rubbish at list keeping, and hopefully Needles will be along to keep it updated :o

BIRTHS
tigger8 (?) DC? due 27/7/12, GIRL born 11/7/12
missjemima (?) DC2 BOY due 3/8/12, born 10/7/12
PoppySeed34 (34) DC1 BOY due 4/8/12, born 28/5/12

Either or both*

In not on... Twice

Can you tell I'm typing this around a baby sleeping on my belly?? :)

Tash, am also still bleeding a bit from time to time (5 weeks +1 here too), esp if a mammoth feed day or I've been extra busy. But it's definitely stopping finally.

Re spots, his acne is clearing up, but still small pimply ones left. Hope they clear soon though.

Wish I could say we're getting into some sleep patterns during the day, but it's very sporadic. Night time is actually a bit better, even though last night he didn't settle until 1.30am. But slept till 7am today!! DH not happy about the lateness, but I didn't mind tooo much as LO was snoozing on me in a bid to calm him down. Hey ho, he's still only tiny.

Went to another BF group today which was nice, except LO still faffed about and cried at least favourite breast. Sigh. She's suggested going right back to the beginning with him on it and make it as appealing as possible, so will see what happens, but it's starting to really upset me that he gets so stressed. Why he's suddenly decided now after 5 weeks that he doesn't like it is unclear to me. Grumble.

Hope everyone else is having an ok day. Am off out whilst the sun is here for a walk with LO and Ddog by the river. x

Hello everyone actually on a computer rather than my phone so can type without getting frustrated!

I'm having a great time minus the sleep deprivation little one is great, no real routine as yet but trying to get wind down time on a night, with a oiling (dry skin) before nightwear and a feed with the lights down low followed by a cuddle. Still does not work too well though! We seem to have 1-2 nights where she falls asleep 12ish then wakes at 3 and then 6 but then we have 2-3 nights of like last night where she wakes, or cries in her sleep all night.

Daren't co sleep as me and DP are on the larger side and only have a regular double bed but do put her next to me and nest her in with pillows so she can't be crushed after her 6am feed. She sleeps then pretty much til 12 noon only waking for feeds, then has an alert hour, followed by a feed and a quick sleep then seems very active til 6-7pm before cluster feeding/napping til midnight.

She is 3 weeks today so today I have tried to put her in a bouncy chair thing for a hour here and there. It plays music and she seems quite happy in it and alert. Its killing me not picking her up and having her in my arms but I think she needs to get used to not constantly being held. Do take her out as soon as she starts getting unhappy though - do you think this ok?

I'm really pleased with BF and how well its going although I do get an irrational dislike of DP at 4am in the morning when he is still snoring and I'm still trying to settle her!

Next week I've decided normal life resumes - going out and about to some groups as I am going stir crazy stuck in. Not supposed to drive for 6 weeks but I feel fine and can run up and down stairs no problem so certainy think Im well enough to take the pram out! Could do with a better daily routine though if anyone has any hints and tips or routines they can share as the day just seems to run away with me and I'm not doing anything!.

miggins sandy got really fussy around then too and is now improving on the breast again back to fuss free feeds. May just be the phase he is in, I'm told weeks 6-8 are the most troublesome and then it's mean to get easier, here's hoping!

Hey question for you all

When you are trying to get your LO to sleep do you let them fall asleep on you then transfer them, or put them in the cot and sit with them til they sleep, or just put them in the cot and hope for the best?

Til now I've always had sandy fall asleep on me or DH then I transfer him, sometimes he wakes, others not. Sometimes he wakes but will be able to be coaxed back to sleep with dummy. I'd like to be able to put him in his basket sleepy and get him to sleep like that. Don't want the only way I can get him to sleep to be after a feed, which is kind of how it is at the moment.

Just trying putting him in the basket awake but sleepy the now. He went in and had dummy and I watched him and had my arm against him so he could feel me. He started sleeping but keeps waking up and watching for me then going back to sleep only to Reawaken from wind/pushing and I resettle him. It's a long and boring process this and also when the transition doesn't work well. I suppose I keep trying and hope that he will get better and eventually sleep quite quickly and soundly? Also hoping that soon the colic and wind will ease and he won't need to grunt nd push so much and that will help!

Anyway, just interested in any tips anyone has, and what you do generally? :)

Ham - I feed her to sleep then place her quietly in her moses basket with skills a ninja would be proud of. Not sure its the way to go to be honest so watching for other replies!

Hey ham I do both tho generally at the month I let him fall asleep on me or dh with dummy for bed time. But I have a rocker so put him in that with dummy and rock him with my foot for daytime naps. For night I have tried a couple of times with sucess putting him in basket with dummy and rocking him to sleep but I have a rocking stand which can be a godsend in the night if he's not quiet asleep after a feed and I put him in it and rock him to sleep the rest of the way. Same with ds1 rocking is the answer. Use rocker for the day so they know the difference betweem daytime naps and night time sleep. With ds1 when he got older tho we did have to do controlled crying at about 3 months I think cos he would cry in basket and literally as soon as we picked him up he would stop so it was just cos he wanted us there. A couple of agonising nights or so and he would self settle but they are too young at the minute I think.

Oh signet I have the same irrational dislike of dh at 4am as well think why is that bastard sleeping when I have to be awake how dare he!!

No tips here ham as I do the same feed to sleep and very slowly move him, he does drop off on his own in the pram though which is handy as it means he stays asleep in the pram when were back home from the school run.

Had visit from HV today for PND check etc and she was useless, she gave me a list/timetable of all the local baby groups etc and they all say booking is neccesary and ring to book, so I said to her I wanted to go to baby sensory and she told me they were filling up really quickly and they dont have a phone number for them and that was that. Was really frustrated as I dont want to miss a place so just going to show up next week and see if I can put my name down or something.

Noah has alot of spots on his head and the side of his cheek which came out when his cold started so mentioned it to HV and it's normal could just be a side effect of virus so hope he gets better soon as last night he was really snuffly and getting frustrated as he was trying to sleep :(

Hope everyones well and you all have a lovely weekend :) is anyone up to anything nice?

Tried and succeeded I getting him too sleep just sitting by the basket with the dummy yay! Latest 30 mins then wind pains woke him. I'm fairly sure we will have much more success and structure once this pushing phase passes... Please let that be soon!! He did hungry face after I got him out so feeding and almost sleeping now. Going to instead of letting him sleep on me after he finishes for half an hour just transfer straight in. I'm fed up of being too scared to try things for want of quiet time, even if it means me not being able to move. I think it's making me feel like walking on eggshells all the time. Quite stressful tbh so going to try and stop that gradually.

More tips/what you do welcome please!!

Same here re. feeding or holding to sleep. Surprisingly, she usually doesn't mind going straight back in the basket at 3am (which I'm grateful for!!) but no luck during the day. She's either on me or asleep in the pram when we're out. 6 wks now so now I feel a bit more capable of dealing with her, I'm going to try and get in to sustainable habits!

I wouldn't call it a routine yet but I have noticed her natural rhythm developing re. naps and bedtimes so going with that atm.

Happy Friday night everyone! To tall oblivious to days atm until my work friend just point this out!! :)

*totally

ham that's me being too scared. Also people say don't make a rod for yourself but similarly just go with it when they're really small....

More often than not I know if I hold or feed her she'll settle but also feel drained as I can see already the reliance on me and not settling with daddy, so I'm defo gonna try and be brave next wk. Easier now I know some of the different cries.

Lois I've completely lost track of the days too.. It really is great not to be at work and I love my job but FT is tough with a LO.

Ham, I only feed or hold to sleep when she's distraught from overtiredness or wind. I try to put her in her moses basket sleepy with dummy but awake. When she starts suckling for comfort not milk I detach and cuddle with the dummy instead then she gets sleepy and in the basket she goes. If she fusses I listen if it gets more irate or calms down sometimes shes lost the dummy or I'll gently massage her head. If she won't calm I'll cuddle with dummy for a bit longer til sleepy again. It usually works for us so far.

Interesting ambi... I'm going to persevere with putting him in the basket awake but sleepy. I think I've been lazy, knowing he might wake up if I do and knowing he won't if I sit with him. I also couldn't be bothered hanging by the basket for ages to put the dummy back in if he rouses all windy like.

Well it seemed not to pay off when he woke after 30 mins but then he fed for an age fell asleep and I put him in the cot again. He woke after 10 mins but dummy got him sleeping again and he is STILL ASLEEP!! Woo actually got some quality time with DH which I am grateful to him for! Now he is rousing so going to go try and feed him back to sleep in bed and hope for a good night one and all :)

Sorry can't remember who mentioned Aveeno, but don't buy it, it's v easy to get on prescription for free for dry skinned babies!
For all those who are interested, took baby to my chiropractor today and he spend a good few minutes gently fiddling with her pelvis and head, then he hung her upside down from her ankles! She seemed to quite like it and had a lovely long sleep later on! I was worried as her head seemes to always go to the left, but he checked her and said she can move both ways, but she must've been squashed in the womb so prefers the left!

tasha that was me re aveeno and thx for tip.... ham cheers for boots idea too, sadly no luck in my local one but no problem if can get from gp. We have tried a bit of bepantham extra gentle baby moisturiser on her dry head today which has helped lots but may also try sudocrem, thanks to whoever suggested that.

Re getting to sleep I do a mixture of feed to sleep and also several tries throughout day to put lo in basket and leave het to drop off, only picking her up if she cries and doing no mote than a little shushing/patting if she's just 'squawking'. sometimes she drops off, sometimes not (in day)...at night it's feed to sleep to start and then she's generally good at going back to sleep later on, though sometimes this is not the case and she ends up' sleeping on my chest before the transfer. No easy answers!

Happy weekend all! G xxx

Just had our first ever 4-hour long sleep, followed immediately by our second 4-hour long sleep! I may keel-over from all the sleep...

Can I ask about your baby-acne? Theo developed it about 3-4 day ago abd it's been getting steadily worse - he looks like a proper teenager now. How long does it last? Days/weeks/months? He's 3 weeks and 2 days today. I just wash his face with warm water a coupe of times a day, I've never used anything except water on him even at bath time because I just don't think he needs it yet but am worried not using soap might prolong the acne - what do you think?

SCOTTISH MUMS, MEET UPS:

So we are informally meeting at Glasgow nct bumps and babies (free) on we'd 17 October. Its at 1-3 merry go round in the south side see nct Glasgow events page for more location details (ask me for specifics if you like its hard to find online not on google maps!) having coffee after too

For Edinburgh we are having a MN meet on either the 11th or 25th (both Thursday's) depending on what suits people so any preference??

25th would work for us in Edinburgh! But I do have a car during the day so could also come through to Glasgow on the 17th if that is easier??

Hi nightfall we got acne at exactly same time- started with a few spots on cheeks and then spread to v bad acne on forehead which went up to top of head. We just used water and cotton wool to gently clean twice a day and by 5 weeks it had gone but left v dry skin. HeLth visitor said fine to just wAsh with water but now it's drying out got to use moisturiser which is working great.

The spots are unfortunate (especially for those having photos taken of them every 5 mins!) but don't worry they will go!!

Ok to confirm the Edinburgh meet will be on 25th October at 1pm. Location to follow. Glasgow meet is 17th ntc bumps and babies, come to both or either. I'll list all planning to make it to each on here and on fb page nearer the date so we all know who to look out for :)

Oh and congrats on the 4 hour sleeps nightfall

Ham we do both depending on his mood(!) If we time it right and put little man in basket when sleepy but not overtired he fades off to sleepyland all by himself but more often than that we miss the window and he either feeds to sleep or is rocked to sleep, we then let him sleep on us until in a deep sleep (check by raising his arm and seeing if it just drops down) then transfer him.

Hope that makes sense?

I've really noticed a difference in the wind depending on when we've used infacol and when I've forgotten !

Hope everyone's having a good weekend?