August 2012 - sunny (ha!) summer babies

[ImissMiniPop]

they're starting to arrive, so here's our 'Due in August' post natal thread. To talk poo, pee, burping and everything else, too...

Here's link to antd-natal thread for those we'll be waiting for www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1511603-Due-in-August-Thread-Part-6

Have borrowed Needles list, which I'll start here, please feel free to add your details to it. I'm rubbish at list keeping, and hopefully Needles will be along to keep it updated :o

BIRTHS
tigger8 (?) DC? due 27/7/12, GIRL born 11/7/12
missjemima (?) DC2 BOY due 3/8/12, born 10/7/12
PoppySeed34 (34) DC1 BOY due 4/8/12, born 28/5/12

ham just thought - have you considered trying cranial oestopathy? Heard it works for some babies who have bad colic.

Sorry, will stop hogging the thread!

Good point about a bath lois he does tend to poop in his towel... Trying that this am. Also going to look into cranial osteopathy thanks :)

Hi all!

Despite being an active member of the ante-natal group I just haven't had a moment to get onto the post-natal thread since DD was born (29th Aug).

Have skimmed some posts to try to catch up.

All is well here... except DH goes back to work tomorrow and I've no idea how I'll cope with newborn DD and 2.7 year old DS!!!!! Up till now DH has done most things with DS to allow me to nap and constantly bf DD, but from 2moro that'll change :(

Have a Kari-Me sling, but still not 100% sure bout wearing it, and I've no baldy clue how to bf in it!!

Hey needles I was in the exact same position as you yesterday! My ds1 is 2.3 but it was ok although my sisters and I did go to the park in the afternoon. It was the morning that was hetic I resorted to the dummy to calm jacob while my attention was on ds1. Then had to take ds1 to docs as he has been having tummy pains on and off for the past 3 days and that was a hetic nightmare even with my sister there! Left my phone in the docs surgery and had to run back to get it. Everyone was crying well children wise and jacob needed feeding. The pharmacy did not have the medicine in stock!! Nightmare I resisted the urge to cry cos my sister was there for support! Oh and turns out tummy pains can mean ds1 is stressed cos of jacob!
All semes calmer today! No tummy pains but a few moany grizzles from ds1 asking for my daddy, my daddy! Just distracted him away from those!

frilly bf all normal you will hopefully get a break when your milk comes in! I did get a sore nipple from the seemingly non stopness at the boob! Oh and crying for no reason all normal come down for hormones!

Congratulations Frilly, Pint, Signet and Needles. There can't be many people left to join us!

Frilly, crying is totally normal, keep persevering. Sometimes it does feel like you're BF constantly too.

DS is nearly 6 weeks old! Can't believe it! I had to go out last night and get some 0-3 month babygros as he is too long for the newborn ones. He's also much more interactive, and has real smiles. He loves his playmat too.

Can I ask what your LOs are all sleeping in? Last night, it was 20 degrees in our room, he had on a vest, a babygro and was in a 1 tog sleeping bag, but when I fed him, his hands and face felt cold. I was only just warm enough under the duvet, I'm worried about him being cold. All the literature suggests 16-18 degrees is the ideal temperature, but I think that's really cold!

I think that's really cool too gnomi and always thought 21 was a good room temp! Despite that I think their extremities are allowed to be cool but as long as their chest is warm it's ok. Sandy was in 20 degrees last night with a vest only (as he fell asleep in it and I wasn't going to wake him) two blankets folded one so four layers and our duvet over his legs only. His arms were cool too but his torso nice and warm. I reckon if they were too cool they would wake and cry?

Good news: he has pooed twice and one was an explosion

Bad news: he Groans and pushes non stop unless attached to me still ad won't snooze in his basket. Velcro baby!!

Going to cranial osteopath Monday. Also started colocynth homeopathic remedy today. Fingers crossed he will be back to normal soon.

Also geek meant to say keep trying with the sling... And if baby screams when put in don't just give up and take out walk and bounce them in it and give dummy if you are giving one til they settle in it. It des take a good 10 mins moving to send sandy off to sleep in his but once he goes he's out

Gosh it's been some week! Theo is one week old today! On Monday he was re-admitted to hospital after loosing too much weight and refusing formula top-ups. Turns out that I wasn't producing anywhere near enough milk and so though he was latched on and sucking for ages and ages he just wasn't getting anything - every breastfeeding woman's fears! It took a while to get him consistently eating his formula and we've had to switch to bottles as he couldn't sip from the cup fast enough for that to be practical. To begin with he was so exhausted that a tiny bit of formula was all he would take then he would sleep for ages but he gradually improved and is now in proper amounts of formula, regained some weight and was discharged yesterday after 2nights in hospital. At hospital I was bf-ing for ten mins from each breast, topping up with formula and then expressing for 10mins a side - a process which ultimately took at east an hour and a half every three hours. I was in constant tears of exhaustion, hormones and general fears and struggling to decide whether to ditch the breastfeeding or to perservere. Then baby stopped latching at all and although sad it meant that I could express whilst DH bottle fed and then we could all sleep. I'm still doing that and although I only get tiny amounts of breast milk - up to 20mls a time today which is a record - I hope it's at least offering him some protection.

It's all a bit of a mess really, I'd love to get him latching again even if just for comfort but I don't know whether that's possible at this point.

But whats important is we are all home and well and I know he's getting what he needs. He's so beautiful!!

After Theo had his temperature taken a lot in hospital I now have a much better idea of hw many blankets he needs - lots!! You have to be careful of course as its more dangerous for them to be too warm than too cold but last night fr example was 19 degrees in our room and he was in vest, baby grow, gro-swaddle blanket and two more blankets!! Looks like loads but he really needs it and won't sleep unless he's warm enough...

gnomi I 2nd what the others have said its the temp of there chest as extremities get cold and they would wake if too cold. My lo woke the other night cos too cold.

nightfall you sound like you are having a rough time. Sending lots of hugs your way. Sounds like you lo will be better off on formula to be honest!

My phone ate my post.

The lost in brief:
My lo also strains to poo but also to pee, fart or burp... she still does all though.

I will persevere with the wrap. Can't help thinking I have already created a PBM for myself..

Anyone else got a lo developing spots on the face???

geek yep we're getting spots on his face. They seem to go as quickly as they come though.

welsh really hope not cow's milk intolerance - I am far too attached to my milk!! Yesterday he was quite calmly lying on the bed about half hour after a feed then bluuurgh and threw up right across the bed and down the side. Then again that night (1st time this has happened twice in one day). And on top of that poor little DS1 threw up his dinner in his cot last night. Was lying there crying "bit messy!" poor thing. These episodes are not related though, DS1 totally fine today. Vomit filled day - joys:)

nightfall 20ml doesn't sound too bad for first week! I'd keep going if you can manage it, but expressing, bf, bottle is all together is really really time consuming so don't feel bad at all if you're needing to cut out. Hang in there!

Sorry to hear you had to go back in nightfall but glad you have got him regaining and eating better. Your being such a good mum persevering with the expressing. Hope things get easier now you are home again and he is getting what he needs

If you really are keen on the wrap try a sling meet too geek I feel much more confident having gone again after having him and having them help with the technique. If its too loose it doesn't give the closeness that makes it so useful I think. Also get someone to help you putting baby in as it feels like your totally pummelling and messing with their little limbs when they are tiny! Ok will shut up now I just can't sing praises of our sling enough though it's magic

This is silly but... HOW THE HECK DO LACTOSE INTOLERANT PEOPLE MANAGE!?! I'm cutting dairy to see it this helps sandys sore tum. Dairy is apparently all I eat. Dry cereal sucks!

So yes this plus he is now getting colocynth homeopathic stuff for the colic and I'm taking him to see about cranial osteopathy on Monday. He pooped again this evening yay and seems over the worst, had a nap in the basket for the first time in days and now is sleeping on his dad. I had a lovely long bath, bliss :)

Funny how easy it is to feel bad when it's tough and good when it turns around. Feel like a hormonal teenager!!

Thanks for the advice about sleeping - Ben is now tucked up in bed in his 2 tog sleeping bag, with blankets on standby in case.

Sounds like you're really having a tough time Ham. Hope the cranial osteopath and homeopathic stuff helps.

Geek, Ben has had spots on his face. I'm hoping they're leftover relics from my hormones. They seem to be clearing up now though - he'll be six weeks on Saturday.

DH has gone out for the evening so I'm home alone. Only little snuffles coming over the baby monitor so far .

Ham is your cranial osteopath in Glasgow? I ask because it's something I'm possibly interested in doing a bit later with LO due to traumatic birth etc. He has a clicky neck that I'd like looked at, plus I think it would help with any stress. Let me know if you can and how it goes, as am v interested in it but can't find one near me.

Nightfall, you're doing a brilliant job being a mummy so don't stress too much, hard though it is. Do the best you can and it'll be just fine and get easier and easier. I onlyexpressed a tiny bit to start with, but now, 3 weeks in, can get 120ml (from both boobs in the morning) (not boasting, by the way, as found it really tough to start with).

Geek, yes my LO also has a few spots. It can apparently be our hormones as well as their sensitive skin adjusting to new environment.

Has anyone else's baby switched alliances with a favourite boob? Mine did love the left most, but yesterday, preferred the right and now is really wierd with the left one. V odd!

Re sleeping, I find 18c too cold and much prefer 21ish. But I'm a cold person. LO sleeps in vest, sleepsuit, and we swaddle him with muslin/grobag swaddle thing. He then has a cellular blanket folded over at least twice depending on how hot. He also has a sheepskin liner for the basket that's lovely and cosy. Hoping to move into sleeping bags soon when he's bigger. I have to smile because despite modern advice, MIL and DM etc all said how noisy etc baby would be and how they moved their LOs into nursery v early. But I really like having him next to me and he's a quiet wee man at night, plus easy to comfort etc when crying. I think really I'll miss him when the time comes for him to decamp to the nursery.

On that sleepy note, off to try and express some more for later. Hope you all have a good night. x

Vino been struggling a bit getting out the house for 8am every morning, been shouting at the other 2 a bit, I have to force feed baby so at least I'm not worried she'll starve! Feel guilty about both these things, joys of motherhood!

Have booked to take baby to my chiropractor as her head seems to always lean to the left. Does anyone else's do this? 3 weeks and 1 day old!

Thanks for tips on blankets/layers. Last night we put a hot water bottle in Moses basket to warm it first, plus more blankets - coincidence maybe but she went from 3.30-7am asleep in the basket no probs! That's my longest record between feeds at night. Like the sound of your sheepskin liner mrsmiggins :)

nightfall sorry to hear you're having a rough time :( Hope you're on the right track now.

Funny, before LO arrived I had ideas about how I'd try to do things. Once they're here you just do what you have to do whether that's formula, infacol, dummy, baby wipes - whatever! As long as everyone is healthy and happy (and we retain some sanity) that's what counts :)

Hope everyone has a good day!

More poo! More poo! It's going to be a good day!

Cranial osteopath is on high street in Glasgow going mondayso will report back miggins . Sandy had a pretty bad bruise when he came out. It never seemed to bother him only he favoured lying on the other side and still does so I hope they will help

Baby signet is a week today! How time flies! I am still completely besotted and exhausted in equal measures.

Bf all day with some longer gaps where she falls asleep but night time - bf for twenty minutes every half hour from. 1130pm til half five this morning. Back up at six thirty. Is this normal ?!?

All normal signet. Keep at it. It is tough but he is stimulating your supply. Could also be a growth spurt on the way. It will settle soon.

Alas all normal Signet, but happy one week!

had a SHOCKING night with 3 hours sleep in bits due to LO crying, feeding, pooing, possetting, you name it. Now asleep like a little angel and I feel exhausted and jetlagged. I get worried that I can't fill him enough with milk sometimes, he seems to feed so much.

Thanks Ham, that would be great. Edward was very battered and bruised when he got yanked out with forceps (and still has a bloodshot eye 3 weeks on), plus he does have a clicky neck that I'd like looked at.

Lois, we also do a warm bottle in the bed first and it's really cosy. Lambskin was a present from DH's granny but I've also liked them, so a fab gift from her. It's lovely, must say and comes from John Lewis in case you're interested.

Happy Friday all x

Ok am feeling like a moan so am gonna have one. Apologies to all an especially those who don't have a good milk supply as my moan is about having to much milk and am starting to get really fed up.

Ok keep waking up at night wet soaked through breast pads etc due to too much milk and liking sleeping on my front! I always seem to be covered in the stuff which after a while stinks! Am trying not to change my pjs too much but they are always covered in milk. My right boob squirts to quick which distress's jacob and then ends up on me and him. Earlier it just started going on its own as boob was out but jacob was off for a little while I may add before it started to squirt. The other night boob leaked through pad and pjs whilst feeding off the other and soaked jacobs clothes so had to change them in the middle of the night when I otherwise would not have arrrrrggggghhh! It gets me down sometimes. Was the same with ds1! Ok rant over I feel a bit better now.

Hi all
can I ask how long you bleed for after birth?
My baby was 3 weeks old yesterday and for about a week the blood was brown/yellowish, yesterday it started to be red again, is this normal I have been more active this week as hubby went back to work monday so I've been doing the school run everyday (walking) and looking after my 21 month old and baby during the day and all the non stop washing/ironing/cooking cleaning etc! and getting up during the night for the feeds ;)
Any ideas??

Oh I totally know what you mean susie! My let down always results in my boob, sandys face, my top and usually my arm/the pillow/bed covered in milk. The thing that makes me mad is how horribly sticky it is, I end up practically needing a shower anything I feed him after a gap of more than an hour or two argh!!

Miaboo re bleeding the midwife told me about 3/4 weeks depending but should be getting lighter. I was the same at the start of the week, was going brown and not much there then decided to go food shopping. When I got home thought I had wet myself, went to loo and had red pad with a few clots. Spoke to MW who said I had overdone it and to put my feet up! yeah ok, but who's going to pick up DD & DS from school and cook tea??

Sorry no remedies, but just to say you are not alone.

Feeding, ok so am breast feeding but mini pint not putting on weight. HV said the other day that I should introduce bottles to see if that gives her a boost but the MW said not to . She is 2 weeks and 3 days.

She does seem to feed all the time and when she does sleep it is only for 1 or 2 hours at the most. The last few nights she has had really green poos. From what I have read Mr Google says it could be because only getting fore milk. BUT she does feed for about 20 minutes each side before stopping. MW said this should be enough time to get all the milk she needs.

I don't know what to do, this is my 3rd baby but with my other 2 I bottle fed and this time I really wanted to BF. She latches on ok and nipples ok so far, thanks to Lanolin cream! It is soo hard when you can't see how much they have drunk!